CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 2006 and 2007 both sucked for tropics. 2008 had Gustav which as you recall have New Orleans quite the scare. 2005 was beyond busy with a meh winter. Feb 2006 and Dec 2005 stand out.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 That is for sure. I'm actually come down your way Mon-Wed next week...going to be staying at the lake house in North Woodstock and spending some time in Boston with the girlfriend. Its the only chance I have to get down there before my folks turn the water off for the winter in October. If its sunny, maybe go to the beach regardless of temperature...the water temp is still warm enough. I've been jonesing to go to Misquamicut the past two years. Will you be able to handle the city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Will you be able to handle the city? 2006 and 2007 both sucked for tropics. 2008 had Gustav which as you recall have New Orleans quite the scare. 2005 was beyond busy with a meh winter. Feb 2006 and Dec 2005 stand out.0"I would point to the PAC hurricane season and point you to the 77 and 2010 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I would point to the PAC hurricane season and point you to the 77 and 2010 seasons What do you mean? Talking about recurves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 What do you mean? Talking about recurves? quiet pac hurricane seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 quiet pac hurricane seasons And great winters to follow. Stay on my back friends.....I'll ride you to the promised land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 quiet pac hurricane seasons Never heard that one. I don't think there is a large correlation either way for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Never heard that one. I don't think there is a large correlation either way for us.same with the Atlantic side. Heard all about Bob Hart's paper and Atlantic recurves then 10/11 13 walked in our door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 So much for that dude who predicted 1-2 canes affecting New England this past month. Hell, no canes anywhere in the US past month...oh well. - Bluebird skies out there this AM! Turned off the AC hopefully for the rest of the season last evening and opened all the windows....got down to 60 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 same with the Atlantic side. Heard all about Bob Hart's paper and Atlantic recurves then 10/11 13 walked in our door. I think there might be more of a correlation to Atlantic recurves. That supposedly will help produce a -NAO, but we've had quieter seasons and a -NAO winter too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 I think there might be more of a correlation to Atlantic recurves. That supposedly will help produce a -NAO, but we've had quieter seasons and a -NAO winter too. Appears to be some high expectations already in this forum. I can imagine this board if we're snowless by 12/15.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I think there might be more of a correlation to Atlantic recurves. That supposedly will help produce a -NAO, but we've had quieter seasons and a -NAO winter too. There is more Atlantic data so its findings are Probaboy stronger scientifically but don't discount the pacific stuff. Brian5671 is the biggest closet snow weenie on the bb...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 There is more Atlantic data so its findings are Probaboy stronger scientifically but don't discount the pacific stuff. Brian5671 is the biggest closet snow weenie on the bb...lol. Yeah the PAC hypothesis correlates to a +PNA. The physics behind it makes sense. Heat transport to higher latitudes building ridges etc. Might not be a total fluke with the -NAO of the 50s and 60s. At least it may have helped sustain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I think there might be more of a correlation to Atlantic recurves. That supposedly will help produce a -NAO, but we've had quieter seasons and a -NAO winter too. That is not what Harts paper says though. I argued the same as you say and was rebuffed pretty hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Appears to be some high expectations already in this forum. I can imagine this board if we're snowless by 12/15.... 12/15, seriously? after last year peeps should remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 That is not what Harts paper says though. I argued the same as you say and was rebuffed pretty hard. Refresh my memory since I thought his paper was on -NAO recurves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Nevermind, I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 12/15, seriously? after last year peeps should remember You'd think they would remember after 2010-2011...we had some horrible weenie meltdowns b**ching about the cold with no snow the first 3 weeks of December 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 You will always have baroclinicity in winter thanks to the Gulf stream. Look at the torch 97 and 2010 El Nino years. We had no problem with cyclogenesis on the East Coast. Perhaps it's different away from the East Coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Appears to be some high expectations already in this forum. I can imagine this board if we're snowless by 12/15.... I don't understand this post from you! You have been around long time to have experience winters like that. The last two have been snowless and mild in december, and it has not been that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 I don't understand this post from you! You have been around long time to have experience winters like that. The last two have been snowless and mild in december, and it has not been that bad I'm ok with it, but there are certain weenies who will freak out if there's not a glacier in their backyard by 12/15. Hopefully last year will teach folks that sometimes the goods are delivered later vs earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I'm ok with it, but there are certain weenies who will freak out if there's not a glacier in their backyard by 12/15. Hopefully last year will teach folks that sometimes the goods are delivered later vs earlier. Which weenies are you referring to aside from Kevin who used 11/1 as the melt down date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Which weenies are you referring to aside from Kevin who used 11/1 as the melt down date. I saw several semi-meltdown posts in the first half of 2010 when the pattern got favorable, but we ended up quite cold with little snow. I think some of them were seasonal posters. I don't remember specifics. But we kept bringing up how we had been spoiled from 2007-2009 in December. Esp 2007 and 2008 with the parade of snow events/SWFE. Last year taught many a good lesson not to throw the towel in too early...to a lesser extent 2010-2011 did. December can be kind of a rough month along the coast if the setups are just slightly off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Not sure about massive breakdowns but I'll plead guilty to being openly despondent after barely cracking 20" in 09/10 followed by the utter disaster on Boxing day where my 3" was pretty much blown away in the ground blizzard that followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 And great winters to follow. Stay on my back friends.....I'll ride you to the promised land. "I don't know what I've been told but if the horse don't pull you gotta' carry that load, I don't who's back's that strong, maybe find out before too long... one way or another" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFNR6Dc9gaY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 And great winters to follow. Stay on my back friends.....I'll ride you to the promised land. "I don't know what I've been told but if the horse don't pull you gotta' carry that load, I don't who's back's that strong, maybe find out before too long... one way or another" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFNR6Dc9gaY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Amazingly enough it appears to be another very light acorn year. They started dropping in July but there's not many at all. There's been some years where there's been thousands of them by now. I was certain this would be one if those years cuz the last 2 have been very light. We' ll take it and we'll like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 You'd think they would remember after 2010-2011...we had some horrible weenie meltdowns b**ching about the cold with no snow the first 3 weeks of December 2010. Some of the biggest meltdowns occurred on Dec 23-24 that winter when the models lost what became the Boxing Day storm. If you read the threads leading up to that storm, there are a couple great meltdowns from the board's finest, before the Xmas Miracle thread when the storm came back on the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Some of the biggest meltdowns occurred on Dec 23-24 that winter when the models lost what became the Boxing Day storm. If you read the threads leading up to that storm, there are a couple great meltdowns from the board's finest, before the Xmas Miracle thread when the storm came back on the models. Look who started the thread and kept the faith.He knows his stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Some of the biggest meltdowns occurred on Dec 23-24 that winter when the models lost what became the Boxing Day storm. If you read the threads leading up to that storm, there are a couple great meltdowns from the board's finest, before the Xmas Miracle thread when the storm came back on the models. That was a good storm that really had a narrow area that did very well. I happened to be in it. Kevin has less than half I think. The fact that I did so well in so many storms that winter where I had no business of doing so probably allows for '11-'12 to happen...lol. He'll feel that sting soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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