Ginx snewx Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Personally I just say idgaf to anything west of the apps and south of dc. Sorry I guess I like to see the Met involved but yea . I mean Snowshoe upslope is cool and all but personally I like when we get a Storm from DC to Maine, that's my corridor of real winter interest . A bomb in the Sierras is cool to look at once but am I going to follow it, nope. The snow in Serbia last year was fascinating too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I was in Harwich, MA for the 04/05 season. High schooler. Blizzard of 2005 gave us in my frontyard 35" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I like to see the Met involved but yea . I mean Snowshoe upslope is cool and all but personally I like when we get a Storm from DC to Maine, that's my corridor of real winter interest . A bomb in the Sierras is cool to look at once but am I going to follow it, nope. The snow in Serbia last year was fascinating too. I would be interested in these far flung snows particularly if I was going. eg: I was in a 3 foot Sierra dump in early November 1986...was vested because the timing for a weekend up there was superb....lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NYC looks half decent on the NAM tonight. Still rolling so jury is still out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Timing is a start time (at least here in the Boston area) around sunrise Tuesday. Decent run so far all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston-winter08 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 latest SREFs drop about 0.28 on BOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Timing is a start time (at least here in the Boston area) around sunrise Tuesday. Decent run so far all things considered. Considerably colder vs the 18z nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 still looks good for a couple of inches, hopefully the 27th trends colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 What was their reasoning? I don't see any reason why they'd get any more than folks to the south. Mid-level frontogenesis and the vortmax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 If the NAM is correct, the "jackpot" early on is NYC-Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NAM is dry north of the MA/NH border which seems suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 If the NAM is correct, the "jackpot" early on is NYC-Kevin. NYC and coast way too warm at surface... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 nyc never got below 39 and bdr never below 37 on 18z.. although 00z does look slightly colder at surface.. we will see when the numbers come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NAM is dry north of the MA/NH border which seems suspect. I don't see it as suspect to be honest Jerry. It's a system lacking moisture kind of falling to pieces. There will be a decent slug of moisture in sne but temps may be an issue at the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NYC and coast way too warm at surface... NYC seems pretty close. I would think if it comes down with any intensity the bottom of the column will be colder than depicted by the NAM. And if it doesn't it won't matter much either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Mid-level frontogenesis and the vortmax. Ah just checked it out..nice. NAM seems to have that vort suppressed a tad. That'll be interesting to see how that verifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 It appears that we have about a 2 week window in January. Let's make hay while the sun shines and hope we get something ahead of NYD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NYC seems pretty close. I would think if it comes down with any intensity the bottom of the column will be colder than depicted by the NAM. And if it doesn't it won't matter much either way. nyc at +1.6 on sounding. inland burbs below feezing thew whole time. whats the min temp needed for snow growth by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 It appears that we have about a 2 week window in January. Let's make hay while the sun shines and hope we get something ahead of NYD. Agree. Northern Plains and Great Lakes are going to get some harsh cold shots with some of that advecting our way with a favorable track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Ah just checked it out..nice. NAM seems to have that vort suppressed a tad. That'll be interesting to see how that verifies. I've been keeping an eye on it for up here, but the EC/EC ens not being impressed concerns me. Now the NAM is poopooing it too. Some of the SREF members have been gung-ho, but many are trending weaker and north with the vort as well. Even if NWP doesn't show anything impressive it wouldn't surprise me to squeeze out 1" of pixie dust anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NYC seems pretty close. I would think if it comes down with any intensity the bottom of the column will be colder than depicted by the NAM. And if it doesn't it won't matter much either way. looks cold enough at 925, but really close for NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenjames Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 white christmas at 30 rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NAM looks like it would have a burst of omega come through along the 850-700 WF pushing north, after 03z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NAM is super close to giving us the Gulf Stream storm miracle. look at around hour 42 or 45 it is super close to the NAM being out performed by real life circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NAM looks like it would have a burst of omega come through along the 850-700 WF pushing north, after 03z. What are you using to look at omega values? I thought SPC had that but I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 NAM is super close to giving us the Gulf Stream storm miracle. look at around hour 42 or 45 it is super close to the NAM being out performed by real life circumstances. Good luck with that. I might get a couple of flurries if I'm lucky based on where it stands now. Congrats you southerners--CT/RI/SEMA for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 What are you using to look at omega values? I thought SPC had that but I can't find it. I was just looking at Wright-weather, but I'm sure the NCEP sitr would show it. You can see that kink in the height lines down by NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Good luck with that. I might get a couple of flurries if I'm lucky based on where it stands now. Congrats you southerners--CT/RI/SEMA for the win. This won't be a Gulf Stream miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 This won't be a Gulf Stream miracle. Jan 05? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I was just looking at Wright-weather, but I'm sure the NCEP sitr would show it.You can see that kink in the height lines down by NYC. can you post the later frames? just curious about what you were saying on 850-700 WF pushing north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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