ORH_wxman Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yeah that's great. The 18z GFS op is a dream come true and exactly what you want. Yeah...I should be more specific and say that pattern is great for Mauler type Miller Bs...we can get Miller Bs a lot with bowling ball systems with a flatter flow (Jan 12 last year, Dec 9, 2005)...but the manitoba mauler types come from that type of pattern shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Maybe we can get an undercutting split flow of sorts towards the end of the ridging period too. Would be nice to bring everyone into the game.Probably wishful thinking EC ensembles did hint at split flow off of SOCAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yeah...I should be more specific and say that pattern is great for Mauler type Miller Bs...we can get Miller Bs a lot with bowling ball systems with a flatter flow (Jan 12 last year, Dec 9, 2005)...but the manitoba mauler types come from that type of pattern shown. Well hopefully it produces. I'd like to get a 6" storm. I think everyone around me has, within about 20 miles..lol. It looks promising down the road..I just hope it lasts more than 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yup. Observed it many times. I always wanted to get hit with windy heavy rain in LA and snow in the mountains and then take a flight the next day east and get hit again by snow. Didn't have the resources then so it was typically out of the question. One thing I did do though is based on the map in the LA Times sometime around 1980 or 1981 I on the spur of the moment took the red eye to BOS, crashed at my friends, and watched the storm become a colossal dud. We did go to the Bruins game though....lol. did the bruins win???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 EC ensembles did hint at split flow off of SOCAL. Yeah at the end of the run it showed that is a possibility. The pattern will probably still be northern stream dominated...but a few shortwaves coming in underneath the ridge usually are a good thing anyway. They can ignite storms into the mean trough when there isn't a potent northern stream shortwave or just enhance anything coming out of the northern stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yeah...I should be more specific and say that pattern is great for Mauler type Miller Bs...we can get Miller Bs a lot with bowling ball systems with a flatter flow (Jan 12 last year, Dec 9, 2005)...but the manitoba mauler types come from that type of pattern shown. Was Boxing Day a MM? It was digging almost straight south so it wasn't an Alberta Clipper and probably not a Saschatchewan Screamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 did the bruins win???? Yep...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Was Boxing Day a MM? It was digging almost straight south so it wasn't an Alberta Clipper and probably not a Saschatchewan Screamer. Looks like a straight up Miller A. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2010/us1226.php#picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Was Boxing Day a MM? It was digging almost straight south so it wasn't an Alberta Clipper and probably not a Saschatchewan Screamer. No not at all..that was from a southern stream piece of energy that undercut the ridge and phased with a northern stream shortwave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Was Boxing Day a MM? It was digging almost straight south so it wasn't an Alberta Clipper and probably not a Saschatchewan Screamer. Manitoba Mauler: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yeah that's great. The 18z GFS op is a dream come true and exactly what you want. Which is why it has no hope of materializing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Okay so an MM is a form of Miller B redevelopment with no southern stream shortwave. So Boxing Day was a Miller A strengthened by upper level energy plunging in from Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yeah at the end of the run it showed that is a possibility. The pattern will probably still be northern stream dominated...but a few shortwaves coming in underneath the ridge usually are a good thing anyway. They can ignite storms into the mean trough when there isn't a potent northern stream shortwave or just enhance anything coming out of the northern stream. EC ensembles did hint at split flow off of SOCAL. La La land but the 12z GEFS hint at this as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Which is why it has no hope of materializing... Conduct unbecoming of a Meteorologist -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Which is why it has no hope of materializing... I like it when you actually provide some scientific insight and not just trolling in your posts. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Which is why it has no hope of materializing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I like it when you actually provide some scientific insight and not just trolling in your posts. Ugh. Gee wiz - I'm only kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 AH hahahahhahaha - that's pretty hideous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Conduct unbecoming of a Meteorologist -1 Just seeing who's paying attention. Muah hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Just seeing who's paying attention. Muah hahahahaha Lol....piling on. As Kevin might say, pull the car out of the garage, roll down the windows, drain the bath tub and unplug the toaster.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 AH hahahahhahaha - that's pretty hideous dude what are you talking about? you are one of the better looking guys, you just need to cut your hair shorter, its like a rug up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 dude what are you talking about? you are one of the better looking guys, you just need to cut your hair shorter, its like a rug up there hey now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 dude what are you talking about? you are one of the better looking guys, you just need to cut your hair shorter, its like a rug up there Just really bad advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Just really bad advice. Tip should get the Blizz look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 GFS showing a nice snowstorm still for feb 3rd.. can we lock that in today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 2/9 496 thickness deep into SNE.. cold if its correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Whether these runs verify or not, such as the 18z and this 00z GFS run ... we are getting back to seeing the type of runs we are more accustomed to around these parts; that's a good start Particularly when balanced against the various teleconnector spreads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Whether these runs verify or not, such as the 18z and this 00z GFS run ... we are getting back to seeing the type of runs we are more accustomed to around these parts; that's a good start Particularly when balanced against the various teleconnector spreads. 00z GFS is a pure wet dream. Massive +PNA in the extended just keeps the threats coming. Even if it lasts only 10-15 days (evidence out there it's much more prolonged, ie- 3+ weeks), it will be fun times. (hopefully not too frustrating) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 00z GFS is a pure wet dream. Massive +PNA in the extended just keeps the threats coming. Even if it lasts only 10-15 days (evidence out there it's much more prolonged, ie- 3+ weeks), it will be fun times. (hopefully not too frustrating) Heh, yeah I was just thinking how some of the higher totaled winters in history racked up their goods in shorter order... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Heh, yeah I was just thinking how some of the higher totaled winters in history racked up their goods in shorter order... I was thinking about this today too lol The bulk of last season's SF came in a 6-week period last year. Not saying we repeat, but get a sweet period with a couple biggies, some good teleconnections, and some luck...then who knows. Definitely something to look forward to. At least we're not looking at a pattern of SWFE, hoping to get an inch of snow on the front end before the switch to 55F rain the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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