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I don’t disagree and I was certainly happy to see the storm at the gulf coast play out. I think everyone’s frame of view is just relative to climo. As @wncsnowalluded to: I grew up in a foothillls era where missing snow in a season was a glaring anomaly. Now it’s sort of expected. Just a different time!

@EastCoast NPZ getting good rains

I’m on the fire Joe Whitt train. The defense played better under Rivera and that’s saying something

Streams are still dry down here.

I don’t know. Probably for at least the next week or longer.

It’s unfortunate that they don’t verify their numbers before going on air. It is not a difficult task.

Last 70 for the season Don? I think it's always highly suspect to predict the last 70 because it can be 70 in the middle of winter too, I remember we have hit 70 a few times in January including January 2006 here, 11 years to the day that we got the Blizzard of 1996 lol.

my allergies calmed down after around 2 PM, maybe the wind died down around then or did the humidity get lower? Or both lol

Yes 70 areawide including the south shore! It was sunny pretty much all day right up until sunset here too! TV Mets messed up the high again and said it was 69 lol

Today was about as perfect as it gets

Yea, IDK...I grade based off of the official index calculations....I mean, I forecasted a -WPO, so it's not like doing so helps me lol It is what it is.

I blame McLaurin. Hold out all summer and unsurprisingly gets injured. And his hold out was a distraction all training camp. Overrated Overpayed

I got to give this woman credit. (Pictured, her mother putting ice on a sting) Moments later she picked two out of her beer and flicked 'em. I appreciate people who value beer.

May get first Flakes early November in Valley Locations.

Larry it definitely was a historical event to remember..im glad yall got nailed.

Not for me. We usually have to wait many years and sometimes several decades between big winter storms. We loved our 3” of sleet, easily the heaviest sleet on record! Just like you guys love your snow, we loved our sleet and look forward to the next big winter storm in whatever decade that will be if we’re fortunate enough to still be around to enjoy it. And even if we had gotten nothing, just seeing a historic wx extreme like they had in FL of nearly a 10” max last winter would still have been fascinating on its own to follow. I don’t get upset when places south of us get a winter storm and I don’t.

Wild map this year. Stolen from FB

So how’s hockey lookin? Cause the commanders are back to Snyder era playing

Guy at the golf course got stung last year at this time and was allergic, couldn't find his epi pen in time. Good guy too.

Line warned in Allegany County/WV:

70.4 in Muttontown & 70.1 in Syosset for the high.

Cumberland gusted to 50 mph.

Aside the fact it is 77.

Analogs, because they are derived from boundary conditions, do not capture synoptic details. Thus, very short timeframes aren't great for assessing them. Periods of 1-3 months provide greater assessment value, as things essentially average out from a series of synoptic events. In theory, the better analogs should come up with a reasonable but not perfect approximation of the 1-3 month period. As North American data is available for October 12-17, I used that to make some comparisons: 2013-2024 Composite: 2011-2016-2021 Experimental Statistically-Generated Cases (discussed earlier in this thread): Actual: October 12-17, 2025: Overall, the actual 2025 data is more amplified than the composite analog cases, aside from spatial differences e.g., misaligned areas of cold and warm anomalies. These kind of differences are to be expected at the very short timeframes used, as synoptic details outweigh boundary conditions at such timeframes. If there is value in either set of analogs, that would become evident over the longer periods of time where boundary conditions outweigh synoptic details.

The Euro Weeklies this evening are depicting a cold pattern to end October and begin November...transient type of pattern. By the end of November, they look quite cold and storm.