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All 3 metro airports were BN for the first week of January, even with a double digit AN day yesterday. RIC is above normal for the month because yesterday was so warm.

Lol. We talk real seasons. But all kidding aside, It’s a personal thing..And it’s all good. I always go/went by the real season. It snows and can be cold in March some years..the snow is counted on the season. I do a lot of sledding in March, So it just Works better in my mind.

clearly colder solution comparing the prior 4 cycles ... 66 to 72 hours is going over to snow in the pretty cinema ... almost down to the pike. there's been steadily more commitment to a secondary, albeit weak.

Fairbanks usually has cold snaps that last for about a month and then a warmer regime enters (warmer = above zero for highs). They've been below 0 all but one day since Dec 5, and below -10 most of that time (with several days with highs below -40 and lows to -50, but that's in the cold sink there). -19 anomaly for Dec. When it has warmed up it's snowed; 24" in Dec (avg 10"), just deep, deep winter there, at least another week to come. Anchorage was only 6° BN in Dec and dry, only 5" vs 18" normal. But they just pulled down 19" this week and are running-17 this month, with more to come snow- and cold-wise. And then Juneau: -12° anomaly in December with 82" of snow vs 18" normal. Normal amount of liquid (6.5") just it usually falls as liquid mostly. Second-snowiest month on record. And they're about to get a lot of rain on top of it. Eaglecrest might be above the snow line, should have great skiing. $57 per day if you buy a 10-ride pass.

Oh, I know that....but snowfall if the main reason I do this, so I'm more interest in that, than whether it only drops to 29 at night instead of 27 on average.

Baltimore had 80 inches of snow in 2009-10 (might I add this total was reached by 2/15... the temp reached 90 by 4/6), and 0.2 inches of snow in 2022-23. PHL had 78.7 inches of snow in 2009-10, and trace in 1972-73, as well as 0.3 inches of snow in 2019-20 and 2022-23, and 0.8 inches of snow in 1997-98.

In spite of our significant January thaw, (I had 61f yesterday), the swamp is still frozen over. Tidewater is not, but some skim ice. It won't take much to get us back to winter; should the pattern fall that way. January 2025 was very wintery in our neighborhood, (significantly AN snowfall, well BN temp). Might be tough to do that 2 years in a row.

I cant find a stretch in the 152 year record here of 8 consecutive winters below avg, but there was a horrendous stretch from 1931-32 thru 1948-49 where 15 of the 18 winters were below avg. Some of them were mild/snowless in many places, but several others were what youre going through now (missing in every direction, etc). Climo always puts things in perspective. It seems like a large concentration of this board is on the east coast/midatlantic, so it would be easy for them to think "big deal, youre not hitting 60" but you still get plenty of snow". We all want snowy backyards, but our climo has to be the base for our expectations. So you have a right to be pissed. I have a friend who moved to SE MI from SoCal 7 years ago and she thinks our winters are the north pole (and she loves it!), not even having experienced the real fun of a decade+ ago. Also have a friend from Long Island who gets a kick out of how its "always snowing" here. Then....my local group of weather weenies. Put a snow weenie in a state known for snow (our licence plates literally say "Water Winter Wonderland") but in the least snowy part of the state....its constant bitching and whining about the snow falling in the snowbelts.

Yeah and its definitely gaining more weight. Still a bit off from anything to really worry about in terms of say power outages but untreated surfaces will become icy for sure

I cleaned up the driveway Monday night but left what fell afterwards. I didn't even get the snowblower out, just used the snow scoop.

Bump because its so so good

Friendly counterpoints: Heating bills up -solar & electric FTW ice melt use up -Wear yaktrax or tell your DPW to make sand and salt mix available like civilized towns slips trips falls up -See above doggy depression up -Tell him to suck it up and give him an edible boredom up -Pond hockey every weeknight and ice fishing every weekend. Adapt or die (from this trash pattern), I always say. 31°F

Chilly run. Potential there down in N ORH Co too

I can't love this post enough. It's so cool that you have records going back that far and developed your love of weather early on with the help of your father. Great stuff.

I still think your December call was pretty damn good. I know your upset about the snowfall aspect, but if you look at the region as a whole, it wasn't *terrible*. This December is a big reason why I am not a fan of doing snowfall total predictions because there are too many wildcards that aren't necessarily related to the pattern but more dependent on small scale processes during system evolution. When you look at the systems which gave us the snows in Decembers...those aren't systems which are conducive to widespread, uniform accumulations, it was more contingent on how each system evolved. While different scales, it's like dealing with convection during the summer. We can have an active pattern for showers and thunderstorms but at the end of the day some areas may come out of it with hardly anything while some areas got slammed.

nope.. pope said yesterday it wont happen when I mentioned it..

Indeed. Unfortunately some folks misinterpret posts like that so I was attempting to add a crumb of context.

Yea, if you look at Cocorahs from Dec 21st the vast majority of sites had snow depths under 3" with most being 0, T, 1", 2" after the cutter. Montgomery went from 27" to 3" in a few days. Guessing that was mostly upslope fluff. I think as Jspin mentioned- Bolton, Stowe etc with higher El and more liquid in the pack probably held on better than most house sites which is not surprising.

If the county does decently sat/sun, that may solidify plans to head up later next week.

Didn't even take the tractor out the last couple days, Going let mother nature work her magic.

I honestly thought we would have done better for snowfall in December...man it was colder and LESS snowy than I thought. Figures-

Yeah I think we all know there's a reason these KUs happen once or twice every 10 years... or even longer.

Yeah, Don't sleep on Sat night Sunday up here.

I’m in the minority of course, but I am not unhappy so far. I know I got the 8-9” out this way that others did not, so that goes a long way, along with the constant cold, and 1-2” refreshers. So, it’s been a very wintry period here, with good snowcover. The cover will go after these next few days. But speaking for myself, not unhappy at all so far. If you largely missed out on 12/26, then I certainly understand the complaints, and I’d be there too. But I’m not in that boat at the moment. And if we pick up something significant in the next week or two…then this area will be in very good shape. If not, then we fall behind.

2z NAM looks like it may be icier for up north Saturday...also seems like the timing has slowed down a bit too.