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Managed to keep the high under 30 degrees in Charlottesville with intact snow cover. Gotta be a rarity anytime of year and much less December! Took the opportunity to go on a hike of some local trails.

He had Barkley down the sideline all alone yet forced it to Brown who alligator armed it. I know the play calling isn't the best this year, but it shocks me how much Hurts has regressed. Especially the last 5 games.

HRRR might be overdoing the lake-effect, but it's putting down 2-3" on Wednesday/Wednesday night out this way. Would obviously take it.

Agreed. Op models are going to show vastly different results at these kinds of ranges - we all know this. Will it remain cold with chances of snow at Christmas? I personally hope so, but if it torches, then I break out the clubs and get a few rounds in while I’m on PTO (and I honestly would play even if it’s chilly and dry). It’s a win-win!

1989 may be the only rat that began this cold.

At least we are talking inches not tenths. 32F partly cloudy soon to be winter day...

I smell a rat...

Blizzard warning posted for the MD/WV mountains. Upslope conditions look really good for Davis and McHenry.

Funny thing is, it’s exactly normal..to a hair above for a good chunk of the area on that prog. So we’d escape the brunt of that.

It's too early to cash in your advance defense mechanism salvage.

Wait what happened to my foot of sleet!!!??? Damn!!

I don't think we are there yet.....examples have been mentioned citing great months of December that hadn't even really gotten started yet.

20 years ago today...a day that will live in infamy for weather weenies in SNE! I'll never forget it.

Snowpack will take a hit, but we need to eventually get out of the northwest flow pattern. Maybe it will set up a big dog for the New Year.

We've definitely been in the 'sweet spot' to start this winter!

Well first off, the beginning of the warming isn't in the long range. It's Day 7-9 so that has more legs verifying, if you look close, the torch is more south central US, unless we get a cutter of course, then we get into the warm sector. I'm still holding out some hope for Christmas week for a well timed cold with an anchored High Pressure and low staying south of us, instead of a raging cutter..

No sense harping on it or complaining. Sitting on a T for the season . I’m just glad I called for and expected another subpar and shitty snowfall winter . Just didn’t expect a goose egg in Dec .

My ocean hugging coastal plain location can expect the top photos likelihood. I feel sure that the good folk of the NW & NE burbs thread will be blessed as the second photo indicates. Either way peace and joy will prevail. As always……

If people are upset with the pattern and how things have done so far then they should be hoping for this break IMO. If this pattern sucks as some say...well the best way to get out of that is to break it and thats what we would be doing towards the end of the month. But I don't see anything signaling we flip to prolonged riding. But...I will say, I don't think it can totally be tossed out. Let's say the Arctic becomes unfavorable and we get a stronger PV that contracts...we open the flood gates for the jet to retract northward and get a milder, zonal flow across the country. Not saying that happens but it was a concern I had a few months back based on how the PAC had looked.

We were bound to get some ridging and warmer temperatures at some point. That doesn't mean winter is done or winter is over.

I think there will be a break, and perhaps a protracted one at that, but I don't see an early end to winter.

They'll still likely beat OU. Albeit, OU caught a huge break not getting MIA/ND. Those teams even vs their D would post 25-30 probably which would be too much for OU to overcome, Bama they might be able to defend their way out of it

Just not seeing this end to winter these guys calling for . I mean it never really began here .. but you get the idea

Yeah, is that you Steve?