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I think there will be a break, and perhaps a protracted one at that, but I don't see an early end to winter.

They'll still likely beat OU. Albeit, OU caught a huge break not getting MIA/ND. Those teams even vs their D would post 25-30 probably which would be too much for OU to overcome, Bama they might be able to defend their way out of it

Just not seeing this end to winter these guys calling for . I mean it never really began here .. but you get the idea

Yeah, is that you Steve?

if we're lucky we squeeze a DAB+ out of the morning squalls

ACATT

I didn't even look. I'm not cancelling the threat...just speaking theoretically.

I still trust the GFS over the Ravens pass rush….

The good news is any ridging that period should be short-lived and looks like the pattern is re-loading as well. Maybe in some way this will help set things up more favorably moving into January.

Judge free zone. We all know what its like to miss out. Understandable to complain.

We’ve seen that all fall and winter and not once has it verified. It won’t this time either . At least not like that

Absolutely no icing.

I posted this forecast discussion on YouTube about tomorrow and Sunday in case anyone's interested.

Euro got off the grinch sauce and has 1-2" area wide Sunday

I believe Liberty has a serious allergy issue. Heaven bless him, he’ll certainly make up for his posting absence when he’s back. It been quite a while since I’ve seen a post from Will Rutgers. Is he okay? Stay well all. ……

591 dam on Christmas is the perfect icing on the cake of a disastrous stretch. I'm skiing out west in mid-January so might as well just give up at this point and wear speedos for Santa and return the cold to the Rockies.

I was holding out hope, but I’ve seen enough. I’m so disappointed. Can’t believe the boning yet again.

That’s 00z Here’s 12z

Just a little love is enough for me. It's not the size of the ship, it's the motion in the ocean.

BTW, Larry's idea is that winter's worst is from late January into March...and rough at that. Gotta run. Sorry, I hadn't posted much this morning. Dear Facebook, as I was pulling out of the garage I ran over a can full of blue paint. It exploded under my truck. I didn't know it until I drove around my cul de sac - twice! I got to scrub lots of asphalt and the garage floor. Meanwhile, I had to do a NASCAR fast wash down of the truck in order to get it on the road for one of my kids. Anyway, BN heights(aqua blue...don't even get me started on how that color wound up in paint storage) went all over the place!!! Maybe it is some kind of sign. Trust me, I would rather be looking at raging warm weather models. Haha. Don't have sympathy. Just know if you are having that kind of day...you are not alone!!!

There’s a college football thread for those who don’t know and are interested that could use more discussion like this:

SO TRUE! This isn't long range anymore, now in medium range with the torch.. All this BS with the coldest air on the globe, December to remember... How's this look for cold ? 7 day anomaly over the US Dec 17-24..

Well we had Will and Ryan say it looked decent…so then they ousted the precip shield and it was ok. But whatever.

That is on the heels of very wet years. Everything balances out.

Especially when it’s trended in the right direction for us. .