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The Psuhoffman Storm


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While the GFS has been on a roll lately it really has no support right now. Where can we look for evidence of which camp may be onto the right solution at this point? Do you see any clues yet?

The angle that the secondary wave comes in as it crosses the BC mountains suggests this will have an early E-SE progression. Can't get around that--all models have keyed in on that. This will definitely be farther E as the wave heads southward through the CONUS--and it likely won't dig into the GOM like some runs had. Because this won't be digging as far S with the secondary backside jet developing into the Rockies--it does seem this wave will never fully "cutoff" from the mean flow--and will likely remain progressive. Even the NAM suggests that. This won't be bombing and crawling along the coast like runs had last night--or the Euro as early as a couple days ago. I don't think the uber east-progressive GFS operational will verify--but something likely in between. There is still a threat this tracks farther E along the coast--with less warm air issues if it continues E and progressive--although that is a small threat. The inland runner looks far less likely though.

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That UKMET track is pure porn.

and honestly a solution still on the table, the ensemble means of the GFS/EC/GGEM have been converging on something close to that for a while now. Just wish that convergence was happening 48 hours ahead of the storm and not 90 hours.

BTW you done freaking out about the GFS?

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The angle that the secondary wave comes in as it crosses the BC mountains suggests this will have an early E-SE progression. Can't get around that--all models have keyed in on that. This will definitely be farther E as the wave heads southward through the CONUS--and it likely won't dig into the GOM like some runs had. Because this won't be digging into as far S with the secondary jet developing into the Rockies--it does seem this wave will never fully "cutoff" from the mean flow--and will likely remain progressive. Even the NAM suggests that. This won't be bombing and crawling along the coast like runs had last night--or the Euro as early as a couple days ago. I don't think the uber east-progressive GFS operational will verify--but something likely in between. There is still a threat this tracks farther E along the coast--with less warm air issues if it continues E and progressive--although that is a small threat. The inland runner looks far less likely though.

you answered my question too....thanks!

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The angle that the secondary wave comes in as it crosses the BC mountains suggests this will have an early E-SE progression. Can't get around that--all models have keyed in on that. This will definitely be farther E as the wave heads southward through the CONUS--and it likely won't dig into the GOM like some runs had. Because this won't be digging as far S with the secondary backside jet developing into the Rockies--it does seem this wave will never fully "cutoff" from the mean flow--and will likely remain progressive. Even the NAM suggests that. This won't be bombing and crawling along the coast like runs had last night--or the Euro as early as a couple days ago. I don't think the uber east-progressive GFS operational will verify--but something likely in between. There is still a threat this tracks farther E along the coast--with less warm air issues if it continues E and progressive--although that is a small threat. The inland runner looks far less likely though.

kind of my thinking, again back to the idea that the ensemble means of the GFS/GEM/EC are all converging on that solution. It also happens to be a pretty good solution for this area.

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If you at the EMC 00z model verification page at day 5, the ukmet is currently doing the best right now even though the euro has a better 30 day average.

Height field verification scores can be very misleading alone. I can attest to the UK being a poor model for forecasting purposes even with its stellar scores.

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Height field verification scores can be very misleading alone. I can attest to the UK being a poor model for forecasting purposes even with its stellar scores.

Yeah, there is a running joke in this forum about the "second best model" UKMET and how it will show a wound-up bomb and the next run a weak wave off the FL coast heading to Africa, followed by an inland runner. It is screwy.

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kind of my thinking, again back to the idea that the ensemble means of the GFS/GEM/EC are all converging on that solution. It also happens to be a pretty good solution for this area.

Oddly enough the UK is realistic--and it is what I meant when I said "small threat" for a progressive bomb but east of the coast--but along it.

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Yeah, there is a running joke in this forum about the "second best model" UKMET and how it will show a wound-up bomb and the next run a weak wave off the FL coast heading to Africa, followed by an inland runner. It is screwy.

Yeah it is pretty bad overall. It has done an awful job with coastals this year.

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