TSSN+ Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 23 minutes ago, high risk said: There seems to be growing consensus that an intense MCS will form over northeast OH and western PA late this afternoon and move southeast. While it (shocker) appears that the best threat will be over southeast PA, at least some of the complex should make it into northern MD and potentially into the Baltimore-Washington corridor later this evening or overnight. Best threat over SE Pa or NW? That area is under the enhanced risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Radarscope claims rotation with the storm out in W VA (near Broadway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 23 minutes ago, yoda said: Radarscope claims rotation with the storm out in W VA (near Broadway) SVR warned for hail to ping pong ball size and winds to 60mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 34 minutes ago, TSSN+ said: Best threat over SE Pa or NW? That area is under the enhanced risk. Sorry. Bad wording on my part. The southeast PA reference was regarding where the complex heads as it moves out of western PA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Well if get anything later tonight it’s that complex developing over Michigan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago The front is slower than had been shown, so the updated Day2 has expanded the SLGT back to the north. Still tons of CAM disagreement (of course). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, yoda said: Radarscope claims rotation with the storm out in W VA (near Broadway) It's likely the hail core interfering with the radar beam. Note how the broad rotation is behind the best VIL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Excellent afternoon AFD from LWX for tonight into tomorrow .DISCUSSION... KEY MESSAGE 1...Slight Risk of severe thunderstorms today and Friday. Clouds have readily thinned in the wake of morning shower and thunderstorm activity. This is allowing for temperatures to rise quickly through the 80s to near 90. This heating will play an important role in the potential for severe weather through the evening hours. As of 2:30 PM, a few discrete (transient supercell) thunderstorms had developed over the Shenandoah Valley, and had a history of producing large hail and wind damage. These storms are developing in an area that has been clear since daybreak, and in an area of enhanced low-level convergence due to residual outflow from morning convection to the north, a washed out front, and terrain circulations. Anticipate this activity to continue into the late afternoon hours with a risk of localized damaging wind gusts and large hail. Meanwhile, upstream over the lower Great Lakes and Ohio Valley, a large reservoir of MLCAPE 3000-4000+ J/kg exists. The north end of this CAPE pool lies along the southern edge of the westerlies, with a 100+ kt 300 hPa jet streak and mid-level shortwave impulse located just to the north. This setup is favorable for the development of a Mesoscale Convective Complex (MCS), which is an organized line of thunderstorms that persists for several hours. Locally, mid-level lapse rates of 6.5-7 C/km (per latest mesoanalysis and the KIAD 12Z RAOB) atop a very moist boundary layer with surface dew points well into the 70s F will lead to increasing CAPE despite the late start at surface heating. The question then becomes just how organized upstream storms become, and how stable the boundary layer is heading further into the evening. A more organized and potent line of storms a bit earlier in the evening would result in a notably higher risk for more numerous damaging wind gusts, especially focused along the residual baroclinic zone/theta-e gradient which should lie near the Potomac River/US-50/I-66 this evening. A somewhat slower and/or more disorganized line would result in a lower risk for severe surface gusts, though some isolated damaging winds would still be possible given high CAPE/DCAPE and the shallow nature of the stable layer near the surface. Areas of western Maryland and perhaps into the eastern West Virginia panhandle are most likely to see the storms prior to the onset of appreciable nocturnal boundary layer stability. The area remains in a Slight Risk (level 2 out of 5) for severe weather from SPC as of the midday outlook update, driven mostly by the threat of damaging wind gusts. There is a threat for large hail in stronger cores, though mid-level lapse rates will gradually become less steep tonight. A linear storm mode would tend to be less favorable for large hail production (as opposed to discrete/individual cells), as well. A few discrete cells are possible this evening in weak low-level WAA, however, independent of any linear system that may affect the region. These storms would be most likely to develop over northern and central Virginia into central Maryland along a weak surface trough and the aforementioned moisture/instability gradient. Additional showers and thunderstorms, possibly strong to severe, are anticipated again on Friday. Timing is a bit uncertain given the subtle waves aloft, but increasing low-level convergence paired with another upper impulse may very well result in another round or two of storms with a damaging wind risk. The latest guidance has nudged the threat a bit further north, encompassing areas as far north as I-70 or the Mason-Dixon line (as opposed to I-66/US-50). This will depend on any residual early day clouds or convection, of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Fwiw, both 16z and 17z HRRR have an MCS/line/complex come rolling through the region between midnight and 3am. 17z HRRR encompasses more of the region than the 16z run did. Not saying its severe, just something to think about overnight as we watch it develop out to our NW ETA - 18z HRRR same idea... but an hour or so faster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted 51 minutes ago Share Posted 51 minutes ago 1 hour ago, TSSN+ said: Well if get anything later tonight it’s that complex developing over Michigan. It’s actually more likely the storms firing out ahead over northeast Ohio. That would be better, because we want these storms to arrive as early as possible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 49 minutes ago Share Posted 49 minutes ago Granted its 1km AGL reflectivity and composite reflectivity, but I don't hate what the 18z RRFS is showing between 02z and 06z for the region 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 41 minutes ago Share Posted 41 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, yoda said: Granted its 1km AGL reflectivity and composite reflectivity, but I don't hate what the 18z RRFS is showing between 02z and 06z for the region @high risk when looking at future radar, should i be looking more at composite or 1km AGL? Or neither lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted 19 minutes ago Share Posted 19 minutes ago Local news did a good job mentioning the risk for later tonight in the brief weather hit. Hopefully people pay attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted 18 minutes ago Share Posted 18 minutes ago 33 minutes ago, high risk said: It’s actually more likely the storms firing out ahead over northeast Ohio. That would be better, because we want these storms to arrive as early as possible. Thanks for this. I sent radar image of that line and sent to friends saying this was the storms to watch for later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 5 minutes ago Share Posted 5 minutes ago Watch needed soon for PA into parts of W and N MD per MCD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 2 minutes ago Share Posted 2 minutes ago https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md2218.html Mesoscale Discussion 2218 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0316 PM CDT Thu Sep 03 2026 Areas affected...Eastern Ohio into central Pennsylvania...western Maryland...and far northern West Virginia Concerning...Severe Thunderstorm Watch 649... Valid 032016Z - 032215Z The severe weather threat for Severe Thunderstorm Watch 649 continues. SUMMARY...Supercells across eastern Ohio and northwestern Pennsylvania will likely grow upscale and pose a more substantial wind threat downstream into central Pennsylvania through the evening. Downstream watch issuance is expected soon. DISCUSSION...Discrete to semi-discrete supercells are evident in regional radar imagery across northeast OH and northwest PA with a few instances of severe hail noted over the past hour. Regional VWPs continue to sample elongated hodographs favorable for splitting supercells with an attendant threat for large hail for the next hour or so. Given the propensity for splitting cells and tight clustering of convection, upscale growth into one or more organized lines appears probable over the coming hours. As this occurs, the potential for severe wind should increase as convection moves into central PA where air mass recovery has been ongoing through the afternoon (MLCAPE has increased to 1000-1500 J/kg per recent mesoanalysis estimates). ..Moore.. 09/03/2026 ...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product... ATTN...WFO...CTP...LWX...PBZ...CLE... LAT...LON 41068148 41388079 41698017 41397732 41157698 40807689 39967720 39607747 39487796 39527869 40278123 40498158 40728172 40888169 41068148 MOST PROBABLE PEAK TORNADO INTENSITY...UP TO 90 MPH MOST PROBABLE PEAK WIND GUST...65-80 MPH MOST PROBABLE PEAK HAIL SIZE...UP TO 1.25 IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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