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Nope. The ongoing stratiform rain over us is what I was calling "round 2", and the HRRR seems to have a very good handle on this. After this ends soon, I think we have to wait until tomorrow morning.
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Morning guidance definitely did not suggest that we’d be screwed north of DC with round 1. But now with round 2 this evening focusing south and tomorrow favoring areas to the south more, I’m very concerned that we’re going to be disappointed with our total.
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It's a good soaking for most tomorrow morning. And I wouldn't call its forecast for today a fizzle; it's just more isolated with its heavier amounts, and it's a bit of an outlier in that regard.
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The more backed surface winds and therefore better low-level shear do indeed appear to be more likely to our northeast, but the forecast hodographs for the local area on some guidance do suggest a non-zero tornado threat.
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Monday has my attention. The parameter space won't be high end, but we should have modest instability, deep layer shear, and dynamics. Timing of day is good. And there are even suggestions of some low-level shear, potentially eventually leading to 5% TOR outlook.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
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There is some hint of destabilization later today in guidance, and it wouldn't take much with these wind fields, so I don't think we're totally dead. That said, the models have a lousy handle on the ongoing convection, so the idea that we may be too stable is valid.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
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18z NAM Nest is the first really encouraging run for Thursday. It also seems to justify the outlook for tonight.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Deep westerly flow here is never a good environment for widespread convection. That said, the dew points aren’t progged to lower Thursday afternoon as much as I would have expected, and the RRFS is able to generate a few scattered storms. And any storm in this kinematic environment would be interesting. Still, the best chance of some rainfall might be early Friday as a weak wave moves along the front.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
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You’re not wrong that there are some factors working against this setup, and there are some legit questions about storm coverage. That said 1) dynamics are much better today - synoptic lift will be overspreading the area later today 2) we’re still several hours from game time for most of us, and better moisture should be arriving 3) while cape will be lower today compared to a few days ago, shear is way better.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Yeah, the HRRR says that parts of our area will have dew points in the upper 50s within the next 2 hours, and I'm very skeptical of that. This is why the HRRR initiates convection later and further east. If it's wrong, storms should initiate somewhere along the Route 15 corridor.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
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The synoptics definitely scream big event for someone, but the sounding you showed highlights the possible fail mechanism here. The strong mid-level flow develops a sharp lee trough on the east side of the Appalachians early in the day which blasts across the Mid-Atlantic by lunchtime. We then downslope big time ahead of the cold front. That's why there is no directional shear in that sounding - the low-level flow has shifted to westerly. Still plenty of time for sure, though, to sort out the synoptic details.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
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I'm still pretty bullish on today, especially for those east of Route 15. I'll be watching dew point this afternoon closely, as a number of models really mix out for a while and lower the dews significantly. That said, I'm not sure that I buy it to the extent that some guidance has most guidance recovers moisture ahead of development, and shear will be very good later today. If moisture really does mix out for a while, the threat will then be more focused east of the Potomac.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
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No, I actually did mean 2011 when there were destructive tornadoes in western Massachusetts.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
June 1, 2011 also comes to mind when looking at this setup. You're absolutely correct that a Day 6 outlook for this part of the country is a rare thing, and there certainly is high end potential. Verbatim, I think that the overnight solutions would really favor New England for the greatest potential, but we'll see how the synoptic evolve over the next few days.- 867 replies
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Sunday still looking very good on the 00Z CAMs. Disagreement on whether storms fire early on the pre-frontal trough or wait for the actual front later, but the shear is massively improved from what we've had the past few days.- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
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Big wind signal east-southeast of Middleburg- 867 replies
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2026 Mid-Atlantic Severe Storm General Discussion
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We've had huge shortcomings in terms of shear the past few days (and today), but that won't be a problem on Sunday. Deep and perhaps even low-level shear look to be really good. There are some model differences in terms of timing and mid-level lapse rates, but Sunday probably has higher potential for coverage and intensity than today does.- 867 replies
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Despite the 30 wind probs, there is very little CAM signal for storms for most of us today. Seems like a pre-frontal trough rolls through early and switches the low-level flow to west-northwest which dries things out and kills convergence. I’m not quite ready to write off the day yet, but I’d like to see an improved CAM signal in the morning runs.- 867 replies
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I think you're on the right track here, but the mid-level flow was better than modeled. I suspect that the paltry winds at the upper levels limited the strength of the updraft.- 867 replies
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It's a fair question, especially given that there is more shear in that profile than I was expecting to see. The warm layer you mentioned might indeed have been a factor. I'd also note that the surface dew point doesn't seem to be representative of the moisture in the low levels, so a mixed layer parcel, while still having some CAPE, would not be able to generate as strong of an updraft.- 867 replies
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None of these CAMs are AI-based. This event, like Saturday's, was mostly a burst of wind followed by a mostly narrow band of reflectivity. I'm guessing that this type of event is tough for a 3 km model to properly resolve.- 867 replies
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Two straight events in which the cams incorrectly weakened a line approaching our area. Wondering if the lack of shear is causing the models to gust these lines out too quickly.- 867 replies
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Impressive storms indeed. Just not very well-timed for us. Hoping that the line well to our west can maintain itself in some form into our area, but the CAMs don't love that idea.- 867 replies
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Around here, storms in high PW environments like today are generally more effective at cranking out the CGs. As you note, though, questions about the evolution of storms this evening remain.- 867 replies
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