nycsnow Posted Thursday at 09:58 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:58 AM Just now, Jersey_Snowhole said: the gfs ai looks nothing like it lol But continues to take baby steps west 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 09:59 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:59 AM Here it comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 10:00 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:00 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted Thursday at 10:02 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:02 AM Absolutely clocks southern nj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 10:03 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:03 AM Just now, Snowlover11 said: Absolutely clocks southern nj Came n/w got better for most. Legit 50-100 miles away from an area wide blizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted Thursday at 10:11 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:11 AM Showing 20-30” southeast of philly LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey_Snowhole Posted Thursday at 10:59 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:59 AM 06z Gefs is east of the operational. 6z gfs another red flag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 11:06 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:06 AM 6 minutes ago, Jersey_Snowhole said: 06z Gefs is east of the operational. 6z gfs another red flag But west of the 0z gefs and more west leaning members, it’s not like gefs is OTS if anything it’s trending towards the op… wether that’s right or not tbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey_Snowhole Posted Thursday at 11:21 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:21 AM 06z euro Ai is east let’s see what euro does. Not having the euro in agreement is telling. edit: 6z euro waaaaaaayyyyy east. Gfs is pretty much on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted Thursday at 11:34 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:34 AM 9 minutes ago, Jersey_Snowhole said: 06z euro Ai is east let’s see what euro does. Not having the euro in agreement is telling. edit: 6z euro waaaaaaayyyyy east. Gfs is pretty much on its own. The EURO wants nothing at all to do with this storm, it hasn’t for days now. Either it’s going to score a huge coup or it’s going down in flames 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 11:50 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:50 AM 27 minutes ago, Jersey_Snowhole said: 06z euro Ai is east let’s see what euro does. Not having the euro in agreement is telling. edit: 6z euro waaaaaaayyyyy east. Gfs is pretty much on its own. It’s barley east the aifs but it’s also not budging it’s pretty steady…. One of these models is gonna have an epic fail soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted Thursday at 11:52 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:52 AM I didn't hate the 6z euro. It's not like it was a total strung out pos like some of the runs it's shown. Some slight adjustments to this and we're clobbered instead. Looking forward to see what 12z does with it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted Thursday at 11:56 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:56 AM Both NWS discussions in Boston and Upton say NW trend in the past 24 hours with late weekend storm. Could be medel fluctuation and models should come into better agreement tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted Thursday at 12:08 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:08 PM 31 minutes ago, snowman19 said: The EURO wants nothing at all to do with this storm, it hasn’t for days now. Either it’s going to score a huge coup or it’s going down in flames I think you gotta go with the whiff runs. What's more likely, a huge blizzard or a whiff especially given the seasonal trends. My guess is the next few runs the gfs shifts east. AI models were also east this morning so there's no support of a 6z GFS solution. My forecast would be snow showers at best and a miss. Little to no snowfall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted Thursday at 12:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:14 PM 2 hours ago, nycsnow said: Came n/w got better for most. Legit 50-100 miles away from an area wide blizzard Definitely a good trend but it occludes before it really hits our area so we don’t get the goods S NJ does. The storm is starting to wind down by then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 12:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:16 PM I don’t get the euro bowing down lol it’s also been all over place strung out ots graze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 12:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:17 PM Hopefully by tomorrow we have a better idea but every solution is still on table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted Thursday at 12:20 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:20 PM Gun to my head I’d say graze at this point. It’s not really an ideal setup for major snow-ridge is too far east and the block looks like it wants to suppress it too much. I’d want other models to jump on with major snow starting today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier77 Posted Thursday at 12:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:24 PM Flying in to JFK Sunday mid-day. Could be real dicey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 12:40 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:40 PM KEY MESSAGE 2... There remains a high amount of uncertainty with the development and track of a coastal low Sunday into Monday. However, there has been a clear trend to the NW the last 24-36h in the low track with ECAIFS, AIGFS, the GEFS, and to a lesser extent the GEPS. The operational GFS and GDPS (Canadian) the last 2 to 3 runs have a low track that has been close enough to see some snowfall across the region, but not a major event. Bottom line, there has been a lot of jumping around of the guidance and this is likely due to complex interaction between multiple streams/upper lows embedded within a longwave trough across the western half of the country. This could still be the case another 24h or so before we see better consistency amongst all of the guidance. Given the uncertainty, the forecast has continued to follow the NBM. NBM probabilities for 6 inches or more are generally less than 15 percent, highest across LI. Even advisory level snows get no higher than 20 percent. That being said, the guidance being all over the place has kept these numbers low. The system though is very much worth watching because of its potential with incredible deepening of the low Sunday afternoon and night. Pressure falls around 24 mb in 12h in the 00Z GFS and GDPS. The potential for high winds and heavy precipitation is a concern should a more western track become the consensus. && Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted Thursday at 12:47 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:47 PM 9 minutes ago, nycsnow said: KEY MESSAGE 2... There remains a high amount of uncertainty with the development and track of a coastal low Sunday into Monday. However, there has been a clear trend to the NW the last 24-36h in the low track with ECAIFS, AIGFS, the GEFS, and to a lesser extent the GEPS. The operational GFS and GDPS (Canadian) the last 2 to 3 runs have a low track that has been close enough to see some snowfall across the region, but not a major event. Bottom line, there has been a lot of jumping around of the guidance and this is likely due to complex interaction between multiple streams/upper lows embedded within a longwave trough across the western half of the country. This could still be the case another 24h or so before we see better consistency amongst all of the guidance. Given the uncertainty, the forecast has continued to follow the NBM. NBM probabilities for 6 inches or more are generally less than 15 percent, highest across LI. Even advisory level snows get no higher than 20 percent. That being said, the guidance being all over the place has kept these numbers low. The system though is very much worth watching because of its potential with incredible deepening of the low Sunday afternoon and night. Pressure falls around 24 mb in 12h in the 00Z GFS and GDPS. The potential for high winds and heavy precipitation is a concern should a more western track become the consensus. && To summarize keep expectations for a major snowfall (6 inches or more) low because right now the probability is low, subject of course to change in the next 24 hours. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Thursday at 12:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:54 PM Was there a 6z CMC para run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 12:55 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:55 PM 7 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: To summarize keep expectations for a major snowfall low because right now the probability is low, subject of course to change in the next 24 hours. Or they basically said they don’t know lol to much uncertainty They don’t mention the op euro guess it’s not part of their thinking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted Thursday at 12:59 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:59 PM Weather balloon data starts coming in with the 12z models. I think by then we really start getting a grip on who's getting what. IMO, the ridge is going to be a little too far east for the storm to gain enough latitude before kicking ots. Right now it's showing the ridge vertex over MT and WY. If that ridge retreats west to the ID/MT border, we're in business. For now I like Jersey Shore WWA scraper or a miss over a warning-critera snowfall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 01:02 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:02 PM A lot of left learners on long range SREF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat5hurricane Posted Thursday at 01:12 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:12 PM The Euro never being interested in this storm is a big red flag to the other models IMO, not to mention the UKMET not wanting a part of this either although it has fluctuated a little more. I've seen this happen too many times to think this is anything but a grazer at best but we'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewoodweather125 Posted Thursday at 01:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:17 PM What’s the rough start timing on this storm for Philly and NYC?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestBabylonWeather Posted Thursday at 01:19 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:19 PM 1 minute ago, Ridgewoodweather125 said: What’s the rough start timing on this storm for Philly and NYC? . Euro isn’t interested so maybe you’ll see some waves at the beach starting Sunday morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 01:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:24 PM RGEM at 84 looks like 00z ggem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Thursday at 01:30 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:30 PM The inverted trough feature may clip us even if the coastal low does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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