golfer07840 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, weatherpruf said: the whole winter was mild especially compared to the year before which was epic; this was the only major storm in 95, included in kocin's book; i remember it was a saturday so impacts were less; it would be the last storm i would use a shovel on; december 95 i bought a snow blower and guess what, we had a major snow two days later....ya'll know what the rest of that winter was like; the blower was good for up to 12 inches......i thought that would be plenty.....wrong... So strange I barely remember that storm, probably because it was on a Saturday. And the winter of '95/'96 was so long. It was in the high 30s/low 40s until mid April and felt like it would never end. My GF, now wife, and I went to Florida in March and we basked in the 80 degrees for 10 days. We come back and it was freezing rain and 38. Awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, Monty said: I wouldn't weenie this post but I don't find it compelling. Dave is a proud, loud, card carrying Democrat and I feel his weather opinions are biased by his political opinions. If I am reading his graphic correctly there are 18 fewer balloons going up over the USA every day than before the budget cuts, and 5 of them are downstream from us. How many more private balloons are going up today compared to 5 or 10 years ago with data available to the globals? Have sattelite density and observational quality improved at all? Are the number and quality of plane sensors unchanged? What percentage of reduction does this represent when accounting for balloon soundings globally? "Fewer balloons is bad and ruining modeling" is a pretty simple take on the matter. As another poster said we've seen some abysmal model performance over the last five years, particularly the GFS since its latest "upgrade." These failures predate NOAA budget cuts. the effects are noticeable in all agencies and have been written about extensively in respected publications, at least the ones not owned by murdoch or bezos.....a professional has listed his reasons and you have answered with an anecdote from a poster here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, golfer07840 said: So strange I barely remember that storm, probably because it was on a Saturday. And the winter of '95/'96 was so long. It was in the high 30s/low 40s until mid April and felt like it would never end. My GF, now wife, and I went to Florida in March and we basked in the 80 degrees for 10 days. We come back and it was freezing rain and 38. Awful it also came on the heels of 94; people had gotten used to big snows the year before, and many were talking about the storm coming and were ready for it. and that was basically it for the whole winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago note the gfs ai shows some frozen precip friday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago New York City remains on course for a winter season mean temperature of 32.0° or below. Much will depend on the warmup that will conclude February. The last time that happened was in 2014-2015. Some of the guidance and a number of individual ensemble members continue to suggest that the New York City area could experience a significant or major snowfall during the February 22-24 period. That's far from a done deal, despite support from the highest-ranked operational model, the ECMWF-AIFS. For now, the possible event is a low probability, high-impact scenario. The picture should become clearer later this week. To date, New York City has seen 22.3" of snow. 7.7" of additional snowfall would bring the seasonal figure to 30.0". Were that to happen, Winter 2025-2026 would be a special winter for its combination of snowfall and cold. The last five winters to see a seasonal mean temperature of 32.0° or below and 30.0" or more snowfall were 1960-1961, 1977-1978, 1993-1994, 2002-2003 and 2014-2015. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 36 / 34 - a rapid melt off kind of day and the warmest day since the warmth of early Jan for many. Perhaps a stray 50. Might be the only chink of sun we see for a while with a cloudy and overall wet week that may transition to white by Sunday - Monday. Near to below avg beyond the weekend/monday period - 2/23 - beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 8 hours ago, weatherpruf said: the effects are noticeable in all agencies and have been written about extensively in respected publications, at least the ones not owned by murdoch or bezos.....a professional has listed his reasons and you have answered with an anecdote from a poster here. If there are observed and measurable reductions in model accuracy due to fewer balloon launches, please link me to this info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 94-95 being warm and virtually snowless (with the exception of February), despite being a moderate el nino, shows how things were screwed up after Pinatubo. 92-93 was the backloaded winter with the Storm of the Century in mid-March, while 93-94 and 95-96 were wall-to-wall cold and snowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezing Drizzle Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said: New York City remains on course for a winter season mean temperature of 32.0° or below. Much will depend on the warmup that will conclude February. The last time that happened was in 2018-2019. Some of the guidance and a number of individual ensemble members continue to suggest that the New York City area could experience a significant or major snowfall during the February 22-24 period. That's far from a done deal, despite support from the highest-ranked operational model, the ECMWF-AIFS. For now, the possible event is a low probability, high-impact scenario. The picture should become clearer later this week. To date, New York City has seen 22.3" of snow. 7.7" of additional snowfall would bring the seasonal figure to 30.0". Were that to happen, Winter 2025-2026 would be a special winter for its combination of snowfall and cold. The last five winters to see a seasonal mean temperature of 32.0° or below and 30.0" or more snowfall were 1960-1961, 1977-1978, 1993-1994, 2002-2003 and 2014-2015. Hi Don, I'm surprised to see that 1976-1977 winter is not on this list. Perhaps there was a warm spell(s) that increased the mean average for the period? FD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezing Drizzle Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: 94-95 being warm and virtually snowless (with the exception of February), despite being a moderate el nino, shows how things were screwed up after Pinatubo. 92-93 was the backloaded winter with the Storm of the Century in mid-March, while 93-94 and 95-96 were wall-to-wall cold and snowy. Good summary of that period. February 1995 did have that one-footer for most of our region; I guess you alluded to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Freezing Drizzle said: Hi Don, I'm surprised to see that 1976-1977 winter is not on this list. Perhaps there was a warm spell(s) that increased the mean average for the period? FD 1976-77 didn't make it, because the winter was frigid (28.3° seasonal mean temperature), but seasonal snowfall was below 30.0" (24.5"). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Freezing Drizzle said: Hi Don, I'm surprised to see that 1976-1977 winter is not on this list. Perhaps there was a warm spell(s) that increased the mean average for the period? FD The ones I'm more surprised about are 1995-96, 2003-04, 2010-11, and 2013-14. Those were almost wall-to-wall cold in December-February, and I know all of these winters did 40+ inches in NYC. No way 2018-19 was colder than all of those. If anything 18-19 was near average temperaturewise December-February (though November and March were well below average). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: The ones I'm more surprised about are 1995-96, 2003-04, 2010-11, and 2013-14. Those were almost wall-to-wall cold in December-February, and I know all of these winters did 40+ inches in NYC. No way 2018-19 was colder than all of those. If anything 18-19 was near average temperaturewise December-February (though November and March were well below average). The mean temperatures for those winters were: 1995-1996: 32.2° 2003-2004: 32.4° 2010-2011: 32.7° 2013-2014: 33.0° Finally, the reference to the last winter with a mean temperature of 32° or below should be to 2014-15, as shown in past posts. Apologies for the error. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezing Drizzle Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said: 1976-77 didn't make it, because the winter was frigid (28.3° seasonal mean temperature), but seasonal snowfall was below 30.0" (24.5"). Thanks Don. Sorry, I didn't catch that point. I recall very cold, light, fluffy snowfalls that season; they did last, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Dammit snow/ ice killer advisory issued to 10 am tomorrow. Bye snow pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 21 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said: Dammit snow/ ice killer advisory issued to 10 am tomorrow. Bye snow pack. melting here slowly-up to 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Stupid fog. All have yet to hit 40 since Jan 22 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Currently 37 and a little fog more hazy then Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 24 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said: Currently 37 and a little fog more hazy then Anthony 49 degrees by me. 25 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said: Stupid fog. All have yet to hit 40 since Jan 22 lol That fog must be eating away those big piles of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 50 minutes ago Share Posted 50 minutes ago Records: Highs: EWR: 69 (2022) NYC: 68 (2022) LGA: 66 (1976) JFK: 65 (1976) Lows: EWR: 0 (1979) NYC: -5 (1896) LGA: 2 (1979) JFK: 5 (1979) Historical: 1894: According to Grazulis, an estimated F2 tornado hits 5 miles south of Warren, Arkansas. An older woman was killed in one of the small homes that were destroyed. In addition, fruit trees were ripped out and carried a half-mile. Another tornado, estimated F3, killed two people in Claiborne County, Louisiana. 1926: A deadly avalanche, Utah's worst, demolishes 14 miner's cottages and a three-story boarding house in Bingham Canyon. Thirty-six were killed and 13 injured. 1930 - Eureka, CA, reported an all-time record high of 85 degrees, a record which lasted until September of 1983. (The Weather Channel) 1936 - The temperature at McIntosh SD plunged to 58 degrees below zero to establish a state record. (David Ludlum) 1958 - The greatest snowstorm of the mid 20th century struck the northeastern U.S. The storm produced 30 inches of snow in interior New England, including more than 19 inches in 24 hours at the Boston Airport. The same storm produced up to three feet of snow in the Middle Atlantic Coast Region, with 14 inches at Washington D.C., and 15.5 inches at Baltimore MD. The storm resulted in 43 deaths and 500 million dollars damage over the Middle Atlantic Coast States. (David Ludlum) 1958: From the 14th through the 17th, one of the most significant snowstorms of the mid 20th century struck the northeastern U.S. The storm produced 30 inches of snow in the interior of New England, including more than 19 inches in 24 hours at the Boston Airport. The same storm produced up to three feet of snow in the Middle Atlantic Coast Region, with 14 inches in Washington D.C. and 15.5 inches in Baltimore, Maryland. The storm resulted in 43 deaths and 500 million dollars damage over the Middle Atlantic Coast States. 1973: Snow showers moved across southeast Texas, with most locations only reporting snow flurries. However, the Houston Intercontinental Airport measured 1.4 inches of snow. 1987 - A couple of winter storms, one off the Atlantic coast and another over the south central U.S., produced snow and ice from the Mississippi Valley to the Mid Atlantic Coast Region. Freezing rain produced a coat of ice three inches thick in northern South Carolina, and 30,000 homes around Pee Dee were left without electricity. Parts of south central Kentucky were without electricity for three days following the storm, which was their worst in 35 years. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Santa Ana winds in southern California gusted to 63 mph at Ontario. Heavy snow blanketed parts of Colorado, with 11 inches reported at Strontia. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - Low pressure off the Washington coast produced more than a foot of snow in the Cascade Mountains, and more than three inches of rain along the Northern Pacific Coast. Spokane WA was blanketed with 13 inches of snow. Cold arctic air in the Upper Midwest produced all-time record high barometric pressure readings of 31.10 inches at Duluth MN, 31.09 inches at Minneapolis MN, and 31.21 inches at Bismarck ND. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - The biggest winter storm of the season hit the Pacific Coast Region. In northern California, snow fell along the coast, and two day totals in the mountains ranged up to 67 inches at Echo Summit. Snowfall totals in the mountains of southern California ranged up to 48 inches at Green Valley, with 46 inches reported at Big Bear. Up to two feet of snow blanketed the southern Cascade Mountains of Oregon, and 20 to 35 inches were reported in the northern Cascades of Oregon. Up to ten inches of snow blanketed Seattle WA. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 49 minutes ago Share Posted 49 minutes ago Sunny here - came out about an hour ago 47 / 37 Foggy night in store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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