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E PA/NJ/DE Winter 2025-26 Obs/Discussion

LVblizzard

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The big ones get sniffed out 8-10 days ahead of time. I remember tracking 2016 for what seemed like ages. The emotional rollercoaster ride when everything shifted south, only for the NAM to score a co

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Im fine with this if it isnt going to be vodka cold or snowing. I can open the windows on Christmas and air out the stink that is my mother-in-law.

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Euro has been largely consistent in showing a general 2-4" for much of the Philly metro the past few runs with upwards of 5" in localized spots. Berks, Lehigh, Northampton probably 1-3" but this is on

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final total 5.8 at my house  Overperformer fo sure. I am becoming real concern that tommorrows snow is going into a negative tilt with someone getting a norlun trough situation  from  eastern pa up to Conn area. another 4-6 inches is not out of the realm right now if you believe the NAM run at noon. Winter storm watches maybe issued 

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7 minutes ago, Albedoman said:

final total 5.8 at my house  Overperformer fo sure. I am becoming real concern that tommorrows snow is going into a negative tilt with someone getting a norlun trough situation  from  eastern pa up to Conn area. another 4-6 inches is not out of the realm right now if you believe the NAM run at noon. Winter storm watches maybe issued 

Looking ahead, the STJ may put a dent in the drought situation. Its a start at least. Then we move to a Nino late summer. 

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Worcester, PA  ended up with about 2.5". Normally not much of an event, but in this case the roads were horrible. I am not 100% sure, but it would appear not much brine was put down. It wasn't an issue of 15 degrees and brine not working. (I think brine has a point where it is too cold and doesn't work similar to salt).  It was 30 to 32 degrees. It appeared after running four fire calls with in 2 hours it was township, county and state roads that were just a mess. (I'm in central Montgomery County PA.)  I know the storm over performed, but I think we all knew there was a chance of snow. It also shows it doesn't take much of a coating to create traffic nightmares. I think I read most of the computer models missed it and only the RGEM performed better than others.  Kind of makes sense to not put all your eggs in one model. 

Tomorrow we have a winter weather advisory - so we have a heads-up.  Not sure, but I think brine has to go on a dry road. That does not appear likely today. In addition the locals are still plowing and not is a position to brine for tomorrow. Be fun to watch the models tonight for tomorrow. 

 

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1 hour ago, Chief83 said:

Worcester, PA  ended up with about 2.5". Normally not much of an event, but in this case the roads were horrible. I am not 100% sure, but it would appear not much brine was put down. It wasn't an issue of 15 degrees and brine not working. (I think brine has a point where it is too cold and doesn't work similar to salt).  It was 30 to 32 degrees. It appeared after running four fire calls with in 2 hours it was township, county and state roads that were just a mess. (I'm in central Montgomery County PA.)  I know the storm over performed, but I think we all knew there was a chance of snow. It also shows it doesn't take much of a coating to create traffic nightmares. I think I read most of the computer models missed it and only the RGEM performed better than others.  Kind of makes sense to not put all your eggs in one model. 

Tomorrow we have a winter weather advisory - so we have a heads-up.  Not sure, but I think brine has to go on a dry road. That does not appear likely today. In addition the locals are still plowing and not is a position to brine for tomorrow. Be fun to watch the models tonight for tomorrow. 

 

Just a reminder Brine isn’t made to melt snow it’s primary function is to keep the snow from binding to the roadway (packing) to assist in plowing operations. 

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21 minutes ago, penndotguy said:

Just a reminder Brine isn’t made to melt snow it’s primary function is to keep the snow from binding to the roadway (packing) to assist in plowing operations. 

Thanks for the clarification.  I was not aware of that. It seemed to me after a road is brined the road just stays wet and doesn't ice over until it get too diluted or washes off.

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