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First Winter Storm to kickoff 2025-26 Winter season


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18 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

12z HRRR and RAP.  These are essentially the last maps that will capture the entire storm (subsequent ones will miss any earlier accums).

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I actually like this depiction for this ... I mentioned yesterday to Henry that I though roughly White Plains-Hartford-Worcester-Portsmouth was going to be hard to penetrate warmth beyond that axis. 

I've also been scratching my head as to what I feel were bloated modeled QPF numbers.   The 06z NAM has abruptly corrected down and is just 1/3 of the previous modeled totals at Logan... while the Euro has been moving the system so damn fast - in fact ..that's the theme with this all along.  Real quick hitter.  This is a candidate to both be marginally colder than the consensus, while also ... a bit lighter as a total result.  

 

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1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Not sure what Dinx is referring to but enjoy it dude. You live there for a reason and it’s for things like today . Hopefully you get 10” and poles and trees are snapped. I’ll be rooting for you 

Thanks Kev.. and ya I moved here for a reason :snowing:I would be losing it if I was still in the valley.. :lol:

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It's starting to slowly penetrate my dense skull. If this system was encountering a better +PP N of the region, its affects might not be felt this far N, anyway. 

Kind of a trade off.   The system is ultimately not very significant in the tropospheric wave space. It's positively tilted, and partially absorbed into the background fast progressive/velocitysoaked circulation type. 

Also, as Will commiserated recently, we're lacking that higher pressure pattern situated N.  These fast flow types make static +PP over-topping harder to come by, because the confluent structures break down to quickly and transition away.  It's been plaguing our winters for a few years ... this fast shit.  It's annoying.  But there's a reason for it, and the resulting less high pressure situated N while storm systems move into and/or under our latitude, has become the leitmotif - frustrating for pure snow enthusiasts because the consequence means enter warming implications here [  hint, today ;) ]. 

That said, this system is middling and subtly trended less.  If there were more high pressure N, I'm starting to see that the meaningful impact may have ended up more suppressed. 

Having said all that...in this situation, I agree with Scott's sentiment to Kevin there - it's a bit of a race.  The low is moving well S of LI down there. When it gets roughly to HFD's longitude, the flow will begin to torque around and come more E than S...then, NE and end N... At some point during that rotation, the warm simply won't be able to get farther NW.

 

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2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

It's starting to occur to penetrate my dense skull if this system was encountering a better +PP N of the region, its affects might not be felt this far N. 

Kind of a trade off.   The system is ultimately not very significant in the tropospheric wave space. It's positively tilted, and partially absorbed into the background fast progressive/velocitysoaked circulation type. 

Also, as Will commiserated recently, we're lacking the higher pressure situated N.  These fast flow types make static +PP over-topping harder to come by, because the confluent structures break down to quickly and transition away.  It's been plaguing our winters for a few years ... this fast shit.  It's annoying.  But there's a reason for it, and the resulting less high pressure situated N while storm systems move into and/or under our latitude, has become the leitmotif - frustrating for pure snow enthusiasts because the consequence means enter warming implications here [  hint, today ;) ]. 

That said, this system is middling and subtly trended less.  If there were more high pressure N, I'm starting to see that the meaningful impact may have ended up more suppressed. 

Funny you say this because I've been thinking the same thing. If we had better positioned highs with these setups, we would see suppressed storms or really strung out garbage in which the northern shield of the precipitation shield gets eroded away with drier air draining in. For HP positioned to our north, we want that when systems are coming up the coast, probably not advancing WNW out of the deep south. 

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4 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Funny you say this because I've been thinking the same thing. If we had better positioned highs with these setups, we would see suppressed storms or really strung out garbage in which the northern shield of the precipitation shield gets eroded away with drier air draining in. For HP positioned to our north, we want that when systems are coming up the coast, probably not advancing WNW out of the deep south. 

I added to that....in this situation, I agree with Scott's sentiment to Kevin there - it's a bit of a race.  The low is moving well S of LI down there. When it gets roughly to HFD's longitude, the flow will begin to torque around and come more E than S...then, NE and end N... At some point during that rotation, the warm simply won't be able to get farther NW.

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