December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread

[Damage In Tolland]

8 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

No. It didn’t.  Just look at the normals.  But it has at times-Like this year. We take. 

Yes it did . It used to be Dec and Jan . Now if we get a few good weeks we’re lucky 

[ORH_wxman]

8 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

18z euro just totally meh Sunday night.

Looked worse than 12z. GFS prob on crack. 

[Damage In Tolland]

4 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

 

I'm watching The American Revolution, too!!

Diet Coke ?

[Damage In Tolland]

Focus on the Norlun 

[ORH_wxman]

6 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Focus on the Norlun 

Looks pretty weak. But maybe we can grab a C-1” deal. 

[WinterWolf]

9 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Yes it did . It used to be Dec and Jan . Now if we get a few good weeks we’re lucky 

Every year is different..have another IPA. I’ll see you Saturday. 

[WinterWolf]

1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

Looks pretty weak. But maybe we can grab a C-1” deal. 

Might as well pin your hopes on winning the powerball…if we’re waiting on a Norlun. 

[Cobalt]

20 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

No. It didn’t.  Just look at the normals.  But it has at times-Like this year. We take. 

I took a look at the normals. Northeast Decembers as cold as the coldest one of the 21st century (Dec 2017, 24.2F) used to occur an average of 1 every 2.83 years from 1895-2000. 

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

So we have a fake Norlun, one model showing a marginal event Monday morning, a cutter midweek, and then back into the freezer for some dry weather.

Hell, tonight we get arctic winds but can’t buy a snow squall.

This has really, truly, been a zero return hobby outside of 1 storm for 7 years 

[MJO812]

28 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Who’s Barney? 

 

[WinterWolf]

Well if I that’s the case, then why aren’t the normal highs and lows colder than they are, if that’s real?  Something ain’t adding up if that’s the case? 

[WinterWolf]

1 minute ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

So we have a fake Norlun, one model showing a marginal event Monday morning, a cutter midweek, and then back into the freezer for some dry weather.

Hell, tonight we get arctic winds but can’t buy a snow squall.

This has really, truly, been a zero return hobby outside of 1 storm for 7 years 

Time to find something else to do bro…we’ll see you when a storm is imminent. 

[CoastalWx]

3 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

So we have a fake Norlun, one model showing a marginal event Monday morning, a cutter midweek, and then back into the freezer for some dry weather.

Hell, tonight we get arctic winds but can’t buy a snow squall.

This has really, truly, been a zero return hobby outside of 1 storm for 7 years 

See you for the 00z nam

[Cobalt]

Just now, WinterWolf said:

Well if I that’s the case, then why aren’t the normal highs and lows colder than they are, if that’s real?  Something ain’t adding up if that’s the case? 

They run off of 30 year normals. Most sites run off of 1991-2020 averages, which were a step up from 1981-2010 averages, which were a step up from 1971-2000 averages. Im surprised nobody's made a tool to show what specific months or years would look like using modern 30 year averages vs older ones.

[Snowcrazed71]

30 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Looked worse than 12z. GFS prob on crack. 

But wasn't the Euro the one that had to come back northwest with the last event? 

[WinterWolf]

3 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

 

What’s he got to do with cold?   What am I missing? 

[ineedsnow]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

See you for the 00z nam

18z Eps has a few interesting members. 12z had 1

[WinterWolf]

3 minutes ago, Cobalt said:

They run off of 30 year normals. Most sites run off of 1991-2020 averages, which were a step up from 1981-2010 averages, which were a step up from 1971-2000 averages. Im surprised nobody's made a tool to show what specific months or years would look like using modern 30 year averages vs older ones.

Well I’m no statistician…but that’s still 2out of 3 that aren’t all that cold/wintry. I think that’s more the point. Sometimes they are…more times they aren’t.  Let’s enjoy this wintry one. 

[Damage In Tolland]

5 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

18z Eps has a few interesting members in me mouth 12z I only had 1

Nasty shit man 

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

12 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

See you for the 00z nam

Meh, nothing I said isn’t factually true. It’s been brutal.

The cold without snow is soul crushing

[Cobalt]

8 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Well I’m no statistician…but that’s still 2out of 3 that aren’t all that cold/wintry. I think that’s more the point. Sometimes they are…more times they aren’t.  Let’s enjoy this wintry one. 

This is a true sentiment. I guess what I was getting at was that 24/25 of the past Decembers have been in that second camp, some bolstered by the fact that they do not need to be as cold as December 2017 to see prolific winter conditions.

 

I agree with you on the last part. Cold and snowy times are already an infrequent part of an infrequent season. We deserve to enjoy the times where winter shows its true hand. 

[MJO812]

[moneypitmike]

8 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Meh, nothing I said isn’t factually true. It’s been brutal.

The cold without snow is soul crushing

I'm back in Providence now.   Was walking the dog tonight thinking how different the world is with vs. without snow.  Give me the snow.

Note--I did not slip at all tonight though.

[UnitedWx]

1 hour ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Gonna have to dig into the archives to find the last time we had lows in the single digits the first week of December.

 

To quote Jerry Troupiano "Way back, WAY BACK!"

[dendrite]

1 hour ago, DavisStraight said:

1989 I think

89 for where? TAN had 3 single digit lows the first week of Dec 2002. CON did multiple single digits mins in mid Nov 2019. That Nov 2018 airmass was pretty brutal too. They had 17/6 on 11/22. 

[WinterWolf]

9 minutes ago, Cobalt said:

This is a true sentiment. I guess what I was getting at was that 24/25 of the past Decembers have been in that second camp, some bolstered by the fact that they do not need to be as cold as December 2017 to see prolific winter conditions.

 

I agree with you on the last part. Cold and snowy times are already an infrequent part of an infrequent season. We deserve to enjoy the times where winter shows its true hand. 

I’ve lived here all my life…I’ve seen some cold Decembers and some not so cold ones too. Flip a coin I guess.  The 80’s into the early 90’s were horrific for us winter folks. Mid 90’s crushed it. Then the tear we were on for the majority of the winters from 02-03 up through 20-21 was pretty incredible. So enjoy it as it comes is all you can do.  

[ORH_wxman]

ORH had back to back single digit lows in Nov 2018. 

 

So you know it wasn't fake. 

[WinterWolf]

18 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Meh, nothing I said isn’t factually true. It’s been brutal.

The cold without snow is soul crushing

It’s 12/4 Brett…take a frieken break..please.

[CoastalWx]

20 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Meh, nothing I said isn’t factually true. It’s been brutal.

The cold without snow is soul crushing

I‘m not crushed on 12-4. Get the sea temps lower is a good way of looking at it. 

[ORH_wxman]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

I‘m not crushed on 12-4. Get the sea temps lower is a good way of looking at it. 

He's already melting down and we're one week after Thanksgiving. 

If Taunton gets a 6"+ snow event prior to Xmas even in a coldish December, that's a win. My guess is there's a reasonable shot of that happening this year given the pattern outlook. 

I don't blame Brett totally though....his formative snow weenie years were very prolific in December even in SE MA. The 2000s were ridiculous relative to climo across SNE, but especially in SE MA in December. 

 

Our generation was hard-wired into being cynical about snow given what we had to deal with in our formative years.