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November 2025 general discussions and probable topic derailings ...


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4 hours ago, WinterWolf said:

Honestly, What is wrong with this guidance? It’s so much worse than it was, and I don’t even think that’s debatable anymore.  WTF? 

I’m not entirely sure, but I’ve heard that guidance struggles the most during seasonal transition periods and during la Nina’s. The struggles during La Niñas I would think is because they are northern energy dominant, and models struggle the most with energy originating from the north as it’s very sparsely populated up there. We are currently in a seasonal transition period and La Niña conditions are present, so I would expect these struggles to continue.

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42 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

EPS is cold To end. That’s a massive vortex in Canada. Would be nice to get some NAO ridging.

Good to hear.  
 

Every NAO that we’ve had over the last 3-4 years hasn’t done Jack for us.  In fact it’s hurt us more than anything.  
 

I’ll take some random transient ridging and run, thank you very much. 

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55 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

EPS is cold To end. That’s a massive vortex in Canada. Would be nice to get some NAO ridging.

Not sure we’d need any NAO ridging with that look. That’s pretty cold. 
 

That SE Canada and Atlantic look is very reminiscent of early to mid December 2007…the WPO is more negative than ‘07 though…that’s pure cross polar there  

 

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5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Not sure we’d need any NAO ridging with that look. That’s pretty cold. 
 

That SE Canada and Atlantic look is very reminiscent of early to mid December 2007…the WPO is more negative than ‘07 though…that’s pure cross polar there  

 

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https://www.jdjweatherconsulting.com/dec-13-2007

 

https://www.jdjweatherconsulting.com/dec-16-2007

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6 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Not sure we’d need any NAO ridging with that look. That’s pretty cold. 
 

That SE Canada and Atlantic look is very reminiscent of early to mid December 2007…the WPO is more negative than ‘07 though…that’s pure cross polar there  

 

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No, definitely don’t need it verbatim there, I was just thinking the NAO would help kind of pin that vortex more in Canada after a certain amount of time. Just to give it more staying power that’s all. I feel like the Pacific might relax a little bit over time.

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4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Not sure we’d need any NAO ridging with that look. That’s pretty cold. 
 

That SE Canada and Atlantic look is very reminiscent of early to mid December 2007…the WPO is more negative than ‘07 though…that’s pure cross polar there  

 

image.png.dc438940c95b1af8988ddad4e156c795.png

 

Very nice theirs some chatter over on the other side of this forum about a robust positive AO we shall see. 

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