October 2025 Discussion and Obs

[FPizz]

27 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

People might not believe it, but Mother Nature is never fooled. Way more foliage hanging around than usual, at least in my area.

Where is your area?  You post in every thread and region.

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

If those four torch days didn't happen Central Park would have finished below normal even when going by the 1981-2010 standards. 

When I calculated the 30 year averages going way back, I found the 1931-1960 and 1941-1970 averages for October warmer than today's FYI. 

The Central Park ASOS has become covered the dense tree growth since 1995 so we can’t use data prior to that for comparison. Since the highs there have been artificially suppressed.

The temperatures in our climate division only saw a gentle increase from 1885 to 1980. Since 1981 we have been rapidly warming at +1.1° per decade. So those earlier climate eras were much colder than the Octobers in recent years have been.

From 1895 to 1980 the climate division average of stations was 54.4° during October. During the last decade with all the October record warmth the average has been 58.1°. So October is getting closer to a 60° month.

 

 

 

[Sundog]

1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

You can't believe it?   We've been doing it for 75 years, lol

I can't believe it's that time of year again, BRIAN

[Sundog]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

The Central Park ASOS has become covered the dense tree growth since 1995 so we can’t use data prior to that for comparison. Since the highs there have been artificially suppressed.

The temperatures in our climate division only saw a gentle increase from 1885 to 1980. Since 1981 we have been rapidly warming at +1.1° per decade. So those earlier climate eras were much colder than the Octobers in recent years have been.

From 1895 to 1980 the climate division average of stations was 54.4° during October. During the last decade with all the October record warmth the average has been 58.1°. So October is getting closer to a 60° month.

 

 

 

 

1931-1960 average was 58.3 degrees

1941-1970 average was 58.7 degrees

 

Both easily warmer than the last two periods not affected by tree growth:

1961-1990: 57.5 degrees

1971-2000: 57.1 degrees

 

 

[SACRUS]

 

55 / 41 cloudy.  Storm later tonight / overnight with worst Thu AM - PM 1 - 3 inches of rain.   Dries out but may be a while to clear out Friday with gust winds persistent. Nice dry / fall weekend coming up.  Overall near to slightly above normal by way of a bit of back and forth 11/1 - 11/11.  

[SACRUS]

 

Permanent DST bill failed to advance in the senate so as many have predicted we'll likely remain on the DST Mar - Oct and ST Nov - Feb cadence.   

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/long-stalled-push-make-us-daylight-saving-time-permanent-hits-dead-end-2025-10-28/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[SACRUS]

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 78 (1971)
NYC: 78 (1971)
LGA: 77 (1946)
JFK: 80 (1971)

Lows:

EWR: 30 (1965)
NYC: 31 (1925)
LGA: 33 (2011)
JFK: 32 (1965)


Historical:

 

1693: From the Royal Society of London: "There happened a most violent storm in Virginia which stopped the course of ancient channels and made some where there never were any." Known as the Accomack Storm, this event likely caused changes to the Delmarva shoreline

1917 - The temperature at Denver, CO, dipped to zero, and at Soda Butte, WY, the mercury plunged to 33 degrees below zero, a U.S. record for the month of October. (David Ludlum)

1925: The high temperature of 46 degrees today remains the coolest high temperature on record for October in Baltimore.
Lowest October High temperature for Baltimore

1942 - A tornado struck the town of Berryville in northwest Arkansas killing 20 persons and causing half a million dollars damage. (David Ludlum)

1948: An historic smog event occurred in the town of Donora, Pennsylvania. The smog killed 20 people and sickened 7,000 more.

1956 - A violent tornado, or series of tornadoes, moved along a path more than 100 miles in length from south of North Platte NE into Rock County NE. It was an unusually late occurence so far north and west in the U.S. for such a storm. (The Weather Channel)

1985: Hurricane Juan, a rather large category 1 storm, meandered on near the Louisiana coast until the 31st when it finally made landfall on the Alabama coast. The slow movement of the storm resulted in excessive rains in Louisiana with many places receiving over 10 inches. Galliano, LA checked in with a storm total of 17.73 inches. Inland flooding combined with an 8 foot storm surge resulted in damage well over $500 million dollars. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1987 - Severe thunderstorms in Arizona produced wind gusts to 86 mph at the Glendale Airport near Phoenix, baseball size hail and 70 mph winds at Wickenburg, and up to an inch of rain in fifteen minutes in Yavapai County and northwest Maricopa County. Arizona Public Service alone reported 2.5 million dollars damage from the storms. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Wintry weather prevailed in the Upper Midwest. South Bend, IN, equalled their record for October with a morning low of 23 degrees. International Falls MN reported a record low of 11 degrees in the morning, then dipped down to 8 degrees above zero late in the evening. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms developing along a cold front produced severe weather in Oklahoma and north central Texas during the late afternoon and evening hours. Thunderstorms in Oklahoma produced weak tornadoes near Snyder and Davidson, and produced hail two inches in diameter at Altus. Large hail damaged 60 to 80 percent of the cotton crop in Tillman County OK. Nine cities in the northeastern U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date as readings warmed into the 70s. For Marquette MI it marked their fifth straight day of record warmth. Arctic cold invaded the western U.S. Lows of 7 degrees at Alamosa CO and 9 degrees at Elko NV were records for the date. (The National Weather Summary)


1991: Bismarck, ND set their October snowfall record as 15.9 inches of snow fell through this date, bringing the total for the month to 23.5 inches. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) A deep upper level trough behind a frontal boundary brought record low temperatures for the date including: Chinook, MT: -24°, Havre, MT: -21°, Conrad, MT: -16°, Chester, MT: -15°, Valentine, MT: -15°, Cut Bank, MT: -14°, Stanford, MT: -11°, Butte, MT: -9°, Great Falls, MT: -5°, Sheridan, WY: -4°, Glasgow, MT: -2°, Helena, MT: -2°, Miles City, MT: -2°, Billings, MT: 1°, Rapid City, SD: 1°, Scottsbluff, NE: 3°, Valentine, NE: 5°-Tied, Burns, OR: 6° and Denver, CO: 7° with a record low maximum of 21°.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1996: A fast moving squall line producing wind gusts of 50 to 80 mph across parts of northern and central Illinois. The storms downed power lines and trees, which in turn damaged buildings that they fell on. The highest wind gusts were recorded in northeastern Illinois, with a reading of 80 mph at McHenry, 80 mph at Chicago Heights, 79 mph at Carpentersville, 68 mph on the west side of Chicago, 65 mph at Plano, 61 mph at O’Hare Airport, 60 mph at Yorkville and 60 mph at Orlan Park.
Further west, a windstorm blasted parts of the Colorado Rockies. Trees and power lines were downed and glass from several windshields were blown out. Property damage ran into the millions of dollars. The highest reported gusts were: Broomfield, CO: 101 mph, Golden Gate Canyon, CO: 100 mph, Coal Creek Canyon, CO: 96 mph, Boulder, CO: 87 mph and Denver International Airport: 43 mph. Insured damage totaled $5.2 million dollars. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)



2005: Tropical Storm Beta reached hurricane status at 1 a.m. CDT Saturday morning as sustained winds reached 75 mph. With the hurricane status, Beta became the 13th hurricane to develop in the Atlantic Basin. This breaks the record of 12 hurricanes from the year 1969. Yet another record for the books this tropical season. Beta's Track - Weather Underground

2011 - New York City received one inch of snow, the earliest they had received that much snow since records began. It was also only the fourth times since the Civil War snow had fallen in New York City in October. The storm also left over three million people without power including 62% of the customers of Connecticut Light and Power.

[Brian5671]

This is why it's never happening:

Year-round daylight saving time was used during World War Two and enacted again in 1974 in a bid to reduce energy use because of an oil embargo, but was unpopular and was repealed later that year.

Cotton said that the bill's proponents are pushing Congress to repeat a prior mistake that would create absurdly late winter sunrises and force children to go to school in darkness in much of the country.

[Sundog]

2 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

This is why it's never happening:

Year-round daylight saving time was used during World War Two and enacted again in 1974 in a bid to reduce energy use because of an oil embargo, but was unpopular and was repealed later that year.

Cotton said that the bill's proponents are pushing Congress to repeat a prior mistake that would create absurdly late winter sunrises and force children to go to school in darkness in much of the country.

The children!

[psv88]

Yes because kids can’t be outside in the dark….

[FPizz]

4 hours ago, Sundog said:

I can't believe it's that time of year again, BRIAN

I'll give you some advance notice, it will happen next year on Nov 1, start preparing you whiny post now.  

[MJO812]

19 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Yes because kids can’t be outside in the dark….

They will be in the snow soon 

[Sundog]

22 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

They will be in the snow soon 

Unless it snows at night, then the delicate children will be safely indoors exposed to 2000 lumens

[BxEngine]

For fucks sake

[the_other_guy]

5 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

This is why it's never happening:

Year-round daylight saving time was used during World War Two and enacted again in 1974 in a bid to reduce energy use because of an oil embargo, but was unpopular and was repealed later that year.

Cotton said that the bill's proponents are pushing Congress to repeat a prior mistake that would create absurdly late winter sunrises and force children to go to school in darkness in much of the country.

This! Maybe they should reopen the govt instead of yelling about shorter days

[the_other_guy]

1 hour ago, psv88 said:

Yes because kids can’t be outside in the dark….

If you have small kids:

 

they don’t wanna get up in the dark.

They don’t wanna go to school in the dark

I don’t wanna get up in the dark

I don’t wanna go to work in the dark

 

Smart move not passing this!

[Sundog]

8 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

If you have small kids:

 

they don’t wanna get up in the dark.

They don’t wanna go to school in the dark

I don’t wanna get up in the dark

I don’t wanna go to work in the dark

 

Smart move not passing this!

Who cares what they want lol

And what's wrong with going to work in the dark?

Do you like driving home from work in the dark? The day is already over before you even get home. F that

[the_other_guy]

31 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Who cares what they want lol

And what's wrong with going to work in the dark?

Do you like driving home from work in the dark? The day is already over before you even get home. F that

if you had kids, you would understand. 

 

what you’re really mad at is shorter days… it’s like yelling at a cloud. Move south

[Sundog]

3 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

if you had kids, you would understand. 

I have two in fact

I am the boss, you get up when I tell you lol

Or at least my wife does. I can't think of a more depressing thing than leaving work and it's already nighttime.

[kat5hurricane]

20 hours ago, jm1220 said:

Flip side it's light out when I have to wake up for work. 

Thank God for that. Leaving the house at 6:30 to darkness is not fun. 

[IrishRob17]

30 minutes ago, Sundog said:

I can't think of a more depressing thing than leaving work and it's already nighttime.

Well then you lead a charmed life. Enjoy it and for the love of god, move on from the constant whining about the freaking sunset already. 

[kat5hurricane]

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

Who cares what they want lol

And what's wrong with going to work in the dark?

Do you like driving home from work in the dark? The day is already over before you even get home. F that

Because it's harder to wake up when it's dark for most people I'd imagine, for me at least, and I think most people would rather see some light when leaving for work in the morning.

[steve392]

1 hour ago, the_other_guy said:

If you have small kids:

 

they don’t wanna get up in the dark.

They don’t wanna go to school in the dark

I don’t wanna get up in the dark

I don’t wanna go to work in the dark

 

Smart move not passing this!

My kid don't want to get up at any time of the day 

[forkyfork]

all your poor kids will never see a winter like we had growing up. sad

[Sundog]

11 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

Well then you lead a charmed life. Enjoy it and for the love of god, move on from the constant whining about the freaking sunset already. 

I live in NYC, it's the opposite of charmed. Charmed living starts north of 287, although traffic is getting worse there I hear

We can barely muster up any excitement for tomorrow's system since rain wise it looks to have a shaft zone right through the tristate.

Not much to talk about!

 

 

[Sundog]

1 minute ago, forkyfork said:

all your poor kids will never see a winter like we had growing up. sad

You'd have to be pretty young to have experienced and recollect nothing good. 

I'd say the last true winter blast of a season was 2014-2015. 

I guess if there are 15 year olds posting they'd be too young to remember.