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1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, looks like a brief warm up this week before we get another cooler weekend with onshore flow and rain. So a continuation of the May theme into June. The upper low keeps returning to the Northeast.

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it's just one day of clouds and showers though, as opposed to 3-4 days which we don't need or want

 

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56 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Models have lows in the mid 70s Friday morning around NYC, I hope you're all happy!

Nothing do I dread more than high minimums. I'd rather have mid 90s every day instead of lows near 80 at night.  

Yesterday and today are ideal, I wish we could have this instead of the rainy crap or the high humidity swampiness.

 

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8 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it's just one day of clouds and showers though, as opposed to 3-4 days which we don't need or want

 

Most of the rain appears to be from Friday into Saturday. But the Euro and CMC have some lingering showers into early Sunday. Hopefully, we can some breaks of sun during the afternoon on Sunday.

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Quickly up from 48 to 70.  Clear now with a mostly sunny day and upper 70s to low 80s.  Approaching 90 or to 90 in the warm spots Wed and Thu - pending on clouds from southern cut off low another high at or exceeding 90s in the warm spots otherwise mid/upper 80s east.   Front slowly approaches later Friday with clouds in the way of the seasons first heatwave in the warm spots (most likely).  Scattered storms / showers Sat with clouds before front clear later in the PM and evening with 1+ inches of rain.  Hope to see it clear up Sunday but boundary is close by and could be the stingy clouds especially along the coast - front get us back near normal Sun - Tue.   

 6/9 - 6/15 looks overall above normal with limited heat and potential of storms with trough back into the GL/MW. 

Beyond there warmer look into and beyond mid month with heights rising into the east.

 

Assuming smoke in PA slowly coming this way so get rid of the clouds and the magnet pulls in smohy haze

 

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Records:

Highs:

EWR: 94 (1943)
NYC: 95 (1895)
LGA: 93 (1943)
JFK: 88 (2010)



Lows:

EWR: 45 (1946)
NYC: 45 (1929)
LGA: 49 (1946)
JFK: 48 (1946)


Historical:

 

1860: Iowa's infamous Camanche Tornado, likely an F5 storm, kills 92 and injures 200. Every home and business were destroyed. It was one of the most damaging families of tornadoes ever to strike the US and resulted in more farm fatalities than any other tornado except for the Tri-State tornado. 

1921 - A cloudburst near Pikes Peak CO killed 120 people. Pueblo CO was flooded by a twenty-five foot crest of the Arkansas River, killing 70 persons. Fourteen inches of rain was reported at Boggs Flat, where a hard surface road through nearly level country was washed out to a depth of seven feet. (The Weather Channel)

1921: Heavy rains caused flash flooding over the southeastern portion of Colorado. The flooding cost the lives of 100 people and millions of dollars in property damage.

1959 - Thunderstorms in northwestern Kansas produced up to eighteen inches of hail near Salden during the early evening. Crops were completely destroyed, and total damage from the storm was about half a million dollars. Hail fell for a record eighty-five minutes. The temperature dropped from near 80 degrees prior to the storm to 38 degrees at the height of the storm. (David Ludlum)

1987 - Six days of flooding in South Texas culminated with five to six inch rains from Bexar County to Bandera County, and five to nine inches rains in Gonzalez and Wilson Counties. Total crop damage was estimated at 500 million dollars. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Early morning thunderstorms in southern Texas produced wind gusts to 86 mph at Port Isabel, and wind gusts to 83 mph at South Padre Island. Unseasonably hot weather prevailed from the Southern Plateau Region to the Northern High Plains. Fourteen cities reported record high temperatures for the date. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms developing over the Southern Plains Region during the afternoon hours produced severe weather into the night. Thunderstorms spawned eleven tornadoes, and there were 169 reports of large hail and damaging winds. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 80 mph at Newcastle, OK, and Wilson, OK. Softball size hail was reported at Monahans, Childress and Groesbeck TX. Monahans TX reported six million dollars damage. Five inches of rain deluged Geronimo OK. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

1993: Early morning severe thunderstorms dumped huge hailstones across northern Oklahoma. Hail, up to 6 inches in diameter in Enid, went through roofs of homes, damaged three jets at Vance Air Force Base, and did $500,000 in damage at a car dealership. Winds gusts reached 70 mph at Vance Air Force Base as well. Hail damage to the wheat crop was estimated at 70 million dollars. 

1997: It was a chilly day in the East. The high temperature at Philadelphia International Airport was only 59 degrees, tying a record-low maximum for the date set back in 1881. The temperature at Middletown, Pennsylvania rose to 58 degrees, breaking the record-low maximum for the date of 59 degrees set back in 1915. Washington, DC only reached 58 degrees, breaking the old record-low maximum of 59 set back in 1915. Central Park in New York City only reached 61 degrees.

 

2002: An impressive heat burst at Amarillo, TX caused the temperature to jump to 90° at 3:21 am. The heat burst was accompanied by winds of 55 mph. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

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4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Next week looks cooler and wetter than the earlier forecasts as another cutoff low is forecast to develop over the Great Lakes. 

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Monday/Tue next week then trough into the GL/MW overall beyond there.  Euro similar to the Canadian (not sure why its not updating yet).   Week of 15 looks warmer as of now with ridging and more heat from the SW building east, perhaps the Western Atlantic Ridge back west later on in the month as well.  No sustained heat on the horizon but what has become more typical above normal overall with potentially routine storms/showers with the trough to our west.

 

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9 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Early next week looks cooler and wetter than the earlier forecasts as another cutoff low is forecast to develop over the Great Lakes. 

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This pattern is nothing like May though, the temperatures are going to be warmer (mid to upper 70s) as opposed to the horror we had in May.  This is just a wet humid summery pattern with showers from time to time.

 

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16 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 94 (1943)
NYC: 95 (1895)
LGA: 93 (1943)
JFK: 88 (2010)



Lows:

EWR: 45 (1946)
NYC: 45 (1929)
LGA: 49 (1946)
JFK: 48 (1946)


Historical:

 

1860: Iowa's infamous Camanche Tornado, likely an F5 storm, kills 92 and injures 200. Every home and business were destroyed. It was one of the most damaging families of tornadoes ever to strike the US and resulted in more farm fatalities than any other tornado except for the Tri-State tornado. 

1921 - A cloudburst near Pikes Peak CO killed 120 people. Pueblo CO was flooded by a twenty-five foot crest of the Arkansas River, killing 70 persons. Fourteen inches of rain was reported at Boggs Flat, where a hard surface road through nearly level country was washed out to a depth of seven feet. (The Weather Channel)

1921: Heavy rains caused flash flooding over the southeastern portion of Colorado. The flooding cost the lives of 100 people and millions of dollars in property damage.

1959 - Thunderstorms in northwestern Kansas produced up to eighteen inches of hail near Salden during the early evening. Crops were completely destroyed, and total damage from the storm was about half a million dollars. Hail fell for a record eighty-five minutes. The temperature dropped from near 80 degrees prior to the storm to 38 degrees at the height of the storm. (David Ludlum)

1987 - Six days of flooding in South Texas culminated with five to six inch rains from Bexar County to Bandera County, and five to nine inches rains in Gonzalez and Wilson Counties. Total crop damage was estimated at 500 million dollars. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Early morning thunderstorms in southern Texas produced wind gusts to 86 mph at Port Isabel, and wind gusts to 83 mph at South Padre Island. Unseasonably hot weather prevailed from the Southern Plateau Region to the Northern High Plains. Fourteen cities reported record high temperatures for the date. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms developing over the Southern Plains Region during the afternoon hours produced severe weather into the night. Thunderstorms spawned eleven tornadoes, and there were 169 reports of large hail and damaging winds. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 80 mph at Newcastle, OK, and Wilson, OK. Softball size hail was reported at Monahans, Childress and Groesbeck TX. Monahans TX reported six million dollars damage. Five inches of rain deluged Geronimo OK. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

1993: Early morning severe thunderstorms dumped huge hailstones across northern Oklahoma. Hail, up to 6 inches in diameter in Enid, went through roofs of homes, damaged three jets at Vance Air Force Base, and did $500,000 in damage at a car dealership. Winds gusts reached 70 mph at Vance Air Force Base as well. Hail damage to the wheat crop was estimated at 70 million dollars. 

1997: It was a chilly day in the East. The high temperature at Philadelphia International Airport was only 59 degrees, tying a record-low maximum for the date set back in 1881. The temperature at Middletown, Pennsylvania rose to 58 degrees, breaking the record-low maximum for the date of 59 degrees set back in 1915. Washington, DC only reached 58 degrees, breaking the old record-low maximum of 59 set back in 1915. Central Park in New York City only reached 61 degrees.

 

2002: An impressive heat burst at Amarillo, TX caused the temperature to jump to 90° at 3:21 am. The heat burst was accompanied by winds of 55 mph. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

1997: It was a chilly day in the East. The high temperature at Philadelphia International Airport was only 59 degrees, tying a record-low maximum for the date set back in 1881. The temperature at Middletown, Pennsylvania rose to 58 degrees, breaking the record-low maximum for the date of 59 degrees set back in 1915. Washington, DC only reached 58 degrees, breaking the old record-low maximum of 59 set back in 1915. Central Park in New York City only reached 61 degrees.

 

2002: An impressive heat burst at Amarillo, TX caused the temperature to jump to 90° at 3:21 am. The heat burst was accompanied by winds of 55 mph. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

wow I didn't know or remember this about 1997.  What was our low that morning?  Wild, 1915 had one of our largest late season snowfalls ever in the month of April.

 

Heat bursts are one thing Texas is famous for, Kopperl Texas had a severe one when the temperature rose to 140 degrees and trees and even wooden doors were burned!

 

 

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31 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

This pattern is nothing like May though, the temperatures are going to be warmer (mid to upper 70s) as opposed to the horror we had in May.  This is just a wet humid summery pattern with showers from time to time.

 

While the pattern is warming up from late May, it’s still staying wet. So even though the temperatures are above average, the high end potential is limited. Would need to see things really dry out for major mid 90s to around 100° as the month progresses. 

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

1997: It was a chilly day in the East. The high temperature at Philadelphia International Airport was only 59 degrees, tying a record-low maximum for the date set back in 1881. The temperature at Middletown, Pennsylvania rose to 58 degrees, breaking the record-low maximum for the date of 59 degrees set back in 1915. Washington, DC only reached 58 degrees, breaking the old record-low maximum of 59 set back in 1915. Central Park in New York City only reached 61 degrees.

 

2002: An impressive heat burst at Amarillo, TX caused the temperature to jump to 90° at 3:21 am. The heat burst was accompanied by winds of 55 mph. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

wow I didn't know or remember this about 1997.  What was our low that morning?  Wild, 1915 had one of our largest late season snowfalls ever in the month of April.

 

Heat bursts are one thing Texas is famous for, Kopperl Texas had a severe one when the temperature rose to 140 degrees and trees and even wooden doors were burned!

 

 

 

6/3/1997

LGA 61 / 49
JFK: 62 / 50
NYC: 61 / 49
EWR: 
 

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2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

cloudy or sunny that day-- the lows were similar to 6-4-23 but the highs were lower

1997 was a nice summer. There hasn't been a summer at New York City within 1F of it since 2009 (by mean temperature). By contrast, 1996 was even cooler, 1992 was nearly 1F cooler, and 2000 was cooler. So it's not like the 90s and early 2000s were wall-to-wall hot. And this is using the Central Park record, which has recent summers generally somewhat cooler than most observational sites around NYC.

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