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Just now, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah that’s a big part of it. From my memory that storm was bombing out as it passed overhead. Likely very strong dynamics were able overcome drying. 

and the "Storm will make it's own cold air" actually worked out too.  It was in the low 50's here that morning with heavy rain-by midafternoon it was 30 with heavy snow

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1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

and the "Storm will make it's own cold air" actually worked out too.  It was in the low 50's here that morning with heavy rain-by midafternoon it was 30 with heavy snow

amazing to have it happen at the last possible moment and on Christmas lol.

That was an out and out amazing winter, haven't had a beginning to end winter like that since (I rank it higher than 09-10, 10-11, 13-14 and 14-15 because of the 20 + inch big KU snowstorm in February a big snowstorm in April and the Christmas miracle snowstorm of course.)

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4 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah that’s a big part of it. From my memory that storm was bombing out as it passed overhead. Likely very strong dynamics were able overcome drying. 

02-03 was my second most favorite winter after 1995-96.  It had everything-- the Christmas Miracle, the February 20"+ KU snowstorm and the April snowstorm too.

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8 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah that’s a big part of it. From my memory that storm was bombing out as it passed overhead. Likely very strong dynamics were able overcome drying. 

The 500mb low closed off in the right spot. The front end was ruined because the storm hugged the coast, but the closed off low kicked the low east and wrapped moisture around to the west to create the backlash heavy snow band. 

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Upton’s AFD for today,

NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... Winds have been increased with this update to account for gusts that have occurred higher than expected. Moderate to heavy rainfall is beginning to taper with the low moving into the Lower Hudson Valley and SW CT. A Flood Watch remains in effect for the Lower Hudson Valley through 11 am. This area has racked up 1-3" inches of rain with many of the higher amounts in Orange county. Some wrap-around precipitation will move through mid to late morning through much of the area as the low exits north and east. As we get into late morning and early afternoon, the low will continue to exit northeast of the area. This brings in drier air & cuts off most of the more intense precip. Spotty to isolated showers may still occur into the early afternoon. Another chance for brief downpours with showers and thunderstorms may occur with a frontal passage behind the departing low late this afternoon into early tonight. Instability is marginal, so only a few rumbles of thunder are expected. Flood impacts will be minimal given the quicker progression of these showers with the front and given coverage will be less compared to this morning. Ahead of and with the front, a LLJ with move through west to east, which could lead to a spike in winds, leading to gusty conditions.

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25 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Christmas Day 2001. 9” in 5 hours, all wrap around. 

You mean 2002. 

That wraparound was amazing. I had about 8 inches but like 2 miles east were reports of almost 10 inches. 

I was driving a rear wheel drive stick shift car with performance tires not equipped for winter conditions. 

That evening was a crash course in winter driving lol. Car actually got stuck in the parking spot that I somehow managed to get it into. 

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6 minutes ago, Sundog said:

You mean 2002. 

That wraparound was amazing. I had about 8 inches but like 2 miles east were reports of almost 10 inches. 

I was driving a rear wheel drive stick shift car with performance tires not equipped for winter conditions. 

That evening was a crash course in winter driving lol. Car actually got stuck in the parking spot that I somehow managed to get it into. 

We also had this kind of situation here on November 7, 2012 in the snowstorm after Sandy (the first snowstorm TWC ever named: *Athena*-- great name!)  8-10 inches of snow and hazardous driving conditions with tree branches down everywhere. 14 inches south of us in Freehold, NJ.

A very different winter from 2002-03 of course.

 

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2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

We also had this kind of situation here on November 7, 2012 in the snowstorm after Sandy (the first snowstorm TWC ever named: *Athena*-- great name!)  8-10 inches of snow and hazardous driving conditions with tree branches down everywhere. 14 inches south of us in Freehold, NJ.

A very different winter from 2002-03 of course.

 

That November snowstorm dropped a branch on my car that dented the roof and broke off my driver's side door mirror. Somehow by some miracle it didn't break any glass. 

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Still nasty smoke plume rotating southeast out of Canada.  For the most part it is rotating under us today around base of trof / upper level low.

As that lifts out we will likely see some affects from it tomorrow and Monday but bulk of it will be directed south and then east so mainly to our south.

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23 minutes ago, wdrag said:

My final in Wantage for the 11 hour rain event 2.03 ending 11A. Fits NJ climate data as well as NYS Mesonet.By the way that is .23 LESS than the automated AWN... tips too much in heavy rain.

2.63" thru the Davis Vantage Pro tipper and 2.60" in the Stratus for me. 

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36 minutes ago, wdrag said:

My final in Wantage for the 11 hour rain event 2.03 ending 11A. Fits NJ climate data as well as NYS Mesonet.By the way that is .23 LESS than the automated AWN... tips too much in heavy rain.

I'm not surprised. This was always going to be a N&W event. People further east shouldn't have believed those bigger totals. It's just like in the winter. But it was sunny this morning so that's good. And all this wind will blow the clouds away. Windy is good. Sun is better. I am tired of the rain. Hopefully someone builds a 250,000 mile hose to the moon that we can siphon all this rain into the craters. We can wash off the moon rocks and prepare them for mining. I hate the rain. 

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17 minutes ago, Monty said:

I'm not surprised. This was always going to be a N&W event. People further east shouldn't have believed those bigger totals. It's just like in the winter. But it was sunny this morning so that's good. And all this wind will blow the clouds away. Windy is good. Sun is better. I am tired of the rain. Hopefully someone builds a 250,000 mile hose to the moon that we can siphon all this rain into the craters. We can wash off the moon rocks and prepare them for mining. I hate the rain. 

Some instability showers later so we’re not totally done. 

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This is my highest May temperatures here in Clifton:

1974 93
1975 93
1976 82
1977 89
1978 90
1979 93
1980 91
1981 90
1982 84
1983 80
1984 85
1985 88
1986 91
1987 97
1988 91
1989 88
1990 80
1991 91
1992 89
1993 88
1994 89
1995 85
1996 95
1997 80
1998 87
1999 90
2000 92
2001 91
2002 85
2003 79
2004 90
2005 83
2006 94
2007 92
2008 88
2009 88
2010 94
2011 89
2012 93
2013 94
2014 89
2015 91
2016 94
2017 95
2018 93
2019 89
2020 87
2021 90
2022 96
2023 89
2024 89
2025 86
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1 minute ago, wxallannj said:

This is my highest May temperatures here in Clifton:

1974 93
1975 93
1976 82
1977 89
1978 90
1979 93
1980 91
1981 90
1982 84
1983 80
1984 85
1985 88
1986 91
1987 97
1988 91
1989 88
1990 80
1991 91
1992 89
1993 88
1994 89
1995 85
1996 95
1997 80
1998 87
1999 90
2000 92
2001 91
2002 85
2003 79
2004 90
2005 83
2006 94
2007 92
2008 88
2009 88
2010 94
2011 89
2012 93
2013 94
2014 89
2015 91
2016 94
2017 95
2018 93
2019 89
2020 87
2021 90
2022 96
2023 89
2024 89
2025 86

so the last time you had a lower high than this was in 2005 and the only time your highest temperature in May didn't reach 80 was in 2003.

 

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And how many in May 90+

1974 2
1975 2
1976 0
1977 0
1978 1
1979 2
1980 2
1981 1
1982 0
1983 0
1984 0
1985 0
1986 3
1987 3
1988 2
1989 0
1990 0
1991 5
1992 0
1993 0
1994 0
1995 0
1996 3
1997 0
1998 0
1999 1
2000 3
2001 3
2002 0
2003 0
2004 1
2005 0
2006 1
2007 2
2008 0
2009 0
2010 3
2011 0
2012 2
2013 3
2014 0
2015 1
2016 4
2017 3
2018 5
2019 0
2020 0
2021 0
2022 3
2023 0
2024 0
2025 0
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3 minutes ago, wxallannj said:

Yes.  The 1983  80 degrees was the 2nd lowest, I bolded the wrong year  lol 

I find it really interesting that 1983 led to one of our hottest summers (as did 1991 which had the highest number of 90 degree days) and 1996 which had one of our highest May high temperatures did not see 90 again until the last day of August lol. And May 2018 heat came after a historically stormy and cold March and early April with lots of snow-- very different from the lead up to May 1991.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, wxallannj said:

And how many in May 90+

1974 2
1975 2
1976 0
1977 0
1978 1
1979 2
1980 2
1981 1
1982 0
1983 0
1984 0
1985 0
1986 3
1987 3
1988 2
1989 0
1990 0
1991 5
1992 0
1993 0
1994 0
1995 0
1996 3
1997 0
1998 0
1999 1
2000 3
2001 3
2002 0
2003 0
2004 1
2005 0
2006 1
2007 2
2008 0
2009 0
2010 3
2011 0
2012 2
2013 3
2014 0
2015 1
2016 4
2017 3
2018 5
2019 0
2020 0
2021 0
2022 3
2023 0
2024 0
2025 0

Nice period of record you got there - 51 years !  Nice!

Most people don't stay put that long.  

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