roardog Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 11 minutes ago, bluewave said: The magnitude of the temperature swings are greater now than in the old days. I’m having a hard time believing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 48 minutes ago, roardog said: You make it sound like every winter used to have extended coast to coast cold as if we’ve never had a warm west/cold east winter before. Large temperature swings in winter certainly aren’t anything new either. Exactly. Didn't we hear that we need a volcano to get a cold winter? I don't really care how warm it is in the west or elsewhere, the bottom line this is a harsh winter where a lot of us live, and i dont need to hear about other areas anymore than i hear about them when we have mild amd they have cold. Its been very common to have a warm west/cold east or vice versa pattern since records began. Obviously there are extreme winters that are exceptions, but if every winter used to be "cold everywhere" its completely disregarding the basic ridge trough alignment that is a huge factor in weather pattern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, roardog said: I’m having a hard time believing that. I brought up multiple times in the past how when we have a cold winter we will be seeing tons of posts about elsewhere on the globe that is warm rather than a honing in on the same local climate data from when its a warm winter. Sure enough, im hearing about the mean temp in Kitsissorsuit before im hearing about the mean temp in NYC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 16 minutes ago, bluewave said: The magnitude of the temperature swings are greater now than in the old days. In order for the CONUS to have a top 5 to top 10 coldest winter there needs to be extensive cold across a large portion of the CONUS which hasn’t happened since the 1970s. These days we can’t get significant Arctic outbreaks without some extreme Arctic warmth like we have been experiencing this winter. No spots in the CONUS this January will see as extreme a departure for the entire month as portions of the Arctic have. So how much warmer was Greenland this month compared to a month with -NAO blocking in let’s say the late ‘70s? I honestly have no idea. If I remember correctly the winter of ‘76-‘77 was one of or the warmest winter in Alaska which makes sense because it was so cold down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 18 minutes ago, roardog said: I’m having a hard time believing that. 2019 was the warmest January at Rockford, IL to feature a -25° or colder reading with the big temperature swings that month and a high over 50°. Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 2019Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 788 333 - - 1449 0 2.27 24.9 - Average 25.4 10.7 18.1 -3.7 - - - - 5.9 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 2019-01-01 32 23 27.5 4.2 37 0 T T 0 2019-01-02 28 22 25.0 1.9 40 0 T T 0 2019-01-03 39 20 29.5 6.5 35 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-04 46 26 36.0 13.2 29 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-05 50 26 38.0 15.3 27 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-06 40 26 33.0 10.5 32 0 T 0.0 0 2019-01-07 51 37 44.0 21.6 21 0 0.53 0.0 0 2019-01-08 44 21 32.5 10.3 32 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-09 23 16 19.5 -2.6 45 0 T T 0 2019-01-10 27 14 20.5 -1.5 44 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-11 29 17 23.0 1.2 42 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-12 31 29 30.0 8.3 35 0 0.28 3.8 0 2019-01-13 32 26 29.0 7.4 36 0 0.01 0.2 4 2019-01-14 26 23 24.5 3.0 40 0 0.00 0.0 4 2019-01-15 33 24 28.5 7.0 36 0 T T 4 2019-01-16 34 26 30.0 8.6 35 0 T 0.0 3 2019-01-17 33 27 30.0 8.7 35 0 T T 3 2019-01-18 30 23 26.5 5.2 38 0 0.17 2.3 2 2019-01-19 24 6 15.0 -6.2 50 0 0.13 4.0 8 2019-01-20 10 -2 4.0 -17.2 61 0 0.00 0.0 8 2019-01-21 14 -7 3.5 -17.7 61 0 0.00 0.0 8 2019-01-22 31 13 22.0 0.8 43 0 0.24 1.5 7 2019-01-23 29 9 19.0 -2.2 46 0 0.23 4.2 11 2019-01-24 22 -2 10.0 -11.2 55 0 T 0.2 13 2019-01-25 1 -11 -5.0 -26.3 70 0 0.05 0.6 12 2019-01-26 5 -21 -8.0 -29.3 73 0 0.07 1.5 14 2019-01-27 8 -15 -3.5 -24.9 68 0 0.10 1.3 14 2019-01-28 21 9 15.0 -6.5 50 0 0.38 4.0 17 2019-01-29 10 -16 -3.0 -24.6 68 0 T 0.2 17 2019-01-30 -13 -25 -19.0 -40.7 84 0 0.00 0.0 17 2019-01-31 -2 -31 -16.5 -38.3 81 0 0.08 1.1 16 Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 1982Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 594 -47 - - 1735 0 1.58 14.8 - Average 19.2 -1.5 8.8 -13.0 - - - - 6.0 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 1982-01-01 18 3 10.5 -12.8 54 0 0.00 0.0 3 1982-01-02 34 15 24.5 1.4 40 0 0.28 1.9 3 1982-01-03 34 20 27.0 4.0 38 0 0.18 0.3 4 1982-01-04 33 9 21.0 -1.8 44 0 0.16 1.3 4 1982-01-05 31 6 18.5 -4.2 46 0 0.00 0.0 4 1982-01-06 23 5 14.0 -8.5 51 0 0.08 1.1 4 1982-01-07 5 -10 -2.5 -24.9 67 0 0.00 0.0 5 1982-01-08 15 -10 2.5 -19.7 62 0 0.02 0.3 5 1982-01-09 5 -21 -8.0 -30.1 73 0 0.04 0.4 5 1982-01-10 -5 -27 -16.0 -38.0 81 0 0.00 0.0 5 1982-01-11 3 -6 -1.5 -23.3 66 0 0.00 0.0 5 1982-01-12 10 -8 1.0 -20.7 64 0 0.11 1.1 5 1982-01-13 16 -3 6.5 -15.1 58 0 0.07 0.9 6 1982-01-14 7 -15 -4.0 -25.5 69 0 0.00 0.1 6 1982-01-15 12 -18 -3.0 -24.5 68 0 0.04 0.6 6 1982-01-16 6 -24 -9.0 -30.4 74 0 0.00 0.0 6 1982-01-17 2 -25 -11.5 -32.8 76 0 0.11 2.1 6 1982-01-18 22 0 11.0 -10.3 54 0 0.00 0.0 8 1982-01-19 27 5 16.0 -5.2 49 0 0.00 0.0 7 1982-01-20 28 7 17.5 -3.7 47 0 0.09 0.7 7 1982-01-21 27 23 25.0 3.8 40 0 0.00 0.0 8 1982-01-22 37 18 27.5 6.3 37 0 0.16 0.3 7 1982-01-23 37 -1 18.0 -3.2 47 0 0.00 0.0 7 1982-01-24 -1 -9 -5.0 -26.2 70 0 0.02 0.3 7 1982-01-25 7 -9 -1.0 -22.3 66 0 0.08 2.1 9 1982-01-26 9 -18 -4.5 -25.8 69 0 0.00 0.0 9 1982-01-27 35 8 21.5 0.1 43 0 0.00 0.0 9 1982-01-28 34 6 20.0 -1.5 45 0 0.00 0.0 7 1982-01-29 32 6 19.0 -2.6 46 0 0.13 1.1 6 1982-01-30 31 18 24.5 2.8 40 0 0.00 0.0 7 1982-01-31 20 8 14.0 -7.8 51 0 0.01 0.2 6 Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 1985Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 712 87 - - 1607 0 1.00 13.4 - Average 23.0 2.8 12.9 -8.9 - - - - 8.6 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 1985-01-01 31 2 16.5 -6.8 48 0 0.34 3.9 9 1985-01-02 10 -8 1.0 -22.1 64 0 0.00 0.0 9 1985-01-03 19 -14 2.5 -20.5 62 0 0.00 0.0 9 1985-01-04 32 -8 12.0 -10.8 53 0 0.00 0.0 9 1985-01-05 39 24 31.5 8.8 33 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-06 37 24 30.5 8.0 34 0 0.00 0.0 7 1985-01-07 37 28 32.5 10.1 32 0 T T 7 1985-01-08 28 8 18.0 -4.2 47 0 T T 7 1985-01-09 22 8 15.0 -7.1 50 0 0.01 0.1 7 1985-01-10 24 15 19.5 -2.5 45 0 0.11 1.7 8 1985-01-11 20 4 12.0 -9.8 53 0 T T 8 1985-01-12 14 0 7.0 -14.7 58 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-13 28 9 18.5 -3.1 46 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-14 35 4 19.5 -2.0 45 0 0.01 0.3 8 1985-01-15 15 -8 3.5 -18.0 61 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-16 22 11 16.5 -4.9 48 0 0.15 2.2 8 1985-01-17 22 11 16.5 -4.8 48 0 0.14 1.9 10 1985-01-18 25 6 15.5 -5.8 49 0 0.02 0.4 11 1985-01-19 6 -24 -9.0 -30.2 74 0 T T 11 1985-01-20 -5 -26 -15.5 -36.7 80 0 T T 11 1985-01-21 17 -6 5.5 -15.7 59 0 T T 11 1985-01-22 22 12 17.0 -4.2 48 0 T T 10 1985-01-23 27 15 21.0 -0.2 44 0 T T 8 1985-01-24 30 21 25.5 4.3 39 0 0.06 0.9 8 1985-01-25 29 -5 12.0 -9.3 53 0 0.01 0.2 9 1985-01-26 22 -10 6.0 -15.3 59 0 0.00 0.0 9 1985-01-27 30 8 19.0 -2.4 46 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-28 15 -5 5.0 -16.5 60 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-29 22 -6 8.0 -13.6 57 0 0.01 0.2 8 1985-01-30 28 9 18.5 -3.2 46 0 0.14 1.5 7 1985-01-31 9 -12 -1.5 -23.3 66 0 T 0.1 9 Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 2009Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 695 160 - - 1580 0 0.81 12.6 - Average 22.4 5.2 13.8 -8.0 - - - - 5.1 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 2009-01-01 31 16 23.5 0.2 41 0 0.00 0.0 1 2009-01-02 30 14 22.0 -1.1 43 0 0.00 0.0 T 2009-01-03 37 16 26.5 3.5 38 0 T 0.0 T 2009-01-04 37 14 25.5 2.7 39 0 0.26 0.0 T 2009-01-05 29 9 19.0 -3.7 46 0 0.00 0.0 T 2009-01-06 31 17 24.0 1.5 41 0 0.06 0.8 T 2009-01-07 28 12 20.0 -2.4 45 0 T 0.2 1 2009-01-08 23 9 16.0 -6.2 49 0 T T 1 2009-01-09 30 12 21.0 -1.1 44 0 0.24 2.7 3 2009-01-10 28 18 23.0 1.0 42 0 0.04 3.8 6 2009-01-11 19 8 13.5 -8.3 51 0 T T 7 2009-01-12 27 7 17.0 -4.7 48 0 0.05 1.7 7 2009-01-13 22 -5 8.5 -13.1 56 0 0.01 0.4 7 2009-01-14 9 -6 1.5 -20.0 63 0 0.12 1.9 8 2009-01-15 -6 -17 -11.5 -33.0 76 0 0.00 0.0 9 2009-01-16 0 -25 -12.5 -33.9 77 0 0.00 0.0 9 2009-01-17 27 0 13.5 -7.8 51 0 T T 8 2009-01-18 17 9 13.0 -8.3 52 0 T 0.1 8 2009-01-19 20 6 13.0 -8.2 52 0 0.02 0.4 8 2009-01-20 19 6 12.5 -8.7 52 0 0.00 0.0 7 2009-01-21 25 10 17.5 -3.7 47 0 0.00 0.0 7 2009-01-22 31 5 18.0 -3.2 47 0 0.00 0.0 7 2009-01-23 27 12 19.5 -1.7 45 0 0.00 0.0 6 2009-01-24 12 -5 3.5 -17.7 61 0 0.00 0.0 6 2009-01-25 11 -5 3.0 -18.3 62 0 0.00 0.0 6 2009-01-26 14 -4 5.0 -16.3 60 0 T T 6 2009-01-27 15 4 9.5 -11.9 55 0 0.01 0.2 6 2009-01-28 16 1 8.5 -13.0 56 0 T 0.3 6 2009-01-29 29 15 22.0 0.4 43 0 T 0.1 6 2009-01-30 16 0 8.0 -13.7 57 0 T T 6 2009-01-31 41 7 24.0 2.2 41 0 0.00 0.0 6 Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 1924Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 792 90 - - 1566 0 1.27 9.5 - Average 25.5 2.9 14.2 -7.6 - - - - 3.8 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 1924-01-01 19 -13 3.0 -20.3 62 0 0.00 0.0 5 1924-01-02 24 -4 10.0 -13.1 55 0 T T 5 1924-01-03 21 -6 7.5 -15.5 57 0 0.00 0.0 5 1924-01-04 12 -11 0.5 -22.3 64 0 T T 5 1924-01-05 -11 -25 -18.0 -40.7 83 0 0.00 0.0 5 1924-01-06 23 -19 2.0 -20.5 63 0 0.00 0.0 5 1924-01-07 32 7 19.5 -2.9 45 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-08 44 13 28.5 6.3 36 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-09 41 35 38.0 15.9 27 0 0.16 0.0 M 1924-01-10 38 23 30.5 8.5 34 0 0.41 0.0 M 1924-01-11 24 17 20.5 -1.3 44 0 T T M 1924-01-12 21 7 14.0 -7.7 51 0 T T M 1924-01-13 18 -10 4.0 -17.6 61 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-14 25 9 17.0 -4.5 48 0 T T M 1924-01-15 35 20 27.5 6.0 37 0 0.00 0.0 T 1924-01-16 32 1 16.5 -4.9 48 0 0.68 9.5 M 1924-01-17 12 -15 -1.5 -22.8 66 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-18 20 -8 6.0 -15.3 59 0 T T M 1924-01-19 20 0 10.0 -11.2 55 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-20 6 -12 -3.0 -24.2 68 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-21 2 -21 -9.5 -30.7 74 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-22 36 -7 14.5 -6.7 50 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-23 33 16 24.5 3.3 40 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-24 36 11 23.5 2.3 41 0 0.02 T M 1924-01-25 35 -8 13.5 -7.8 51 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-26 8 -8 0.0 -21.3 65 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-27 25 -6 9.5 -11.9 55 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-28 40 19 29.5 8.0 35 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-29 39 33 36.0 14.4 29 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-30 43 27 35.0 13.3 30 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-31 39 25 32.0 10.2 33 0 T 0.0 T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 8 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: I brought up multiple times in the past how when we have a cold winter we will be seeing tons of posts about elsewhere on the globe that is warm rather than a honing in on the same local climate data from when its a warm winter. Sure enough, im hearing about the mean temp in Kitsissorsuit before im hearing about the mean temp in NYC. After all the years of reading this board I feel like there’s three categories that the warmth cheering crowd falls into. 1. Someone who genuinely likes warm weather. They’re always hoping for the warmest it can be. 2. someone who knows the majority of the board likes cold and snow and hopes for warmth to see the misery of the cold lovers possibly because they are unhappy with their own life. 3. Someone who cheers on warmth because they want the cold lovers to be upset with humans for putting CO2 into the atmosphere. Political motivation is not out of the question with this type of person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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40/70 Benchmark Posted 7 hours ago Author Share Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, MJO812 said: Suppression ? I thought you liked February . Too early to write off the whole month . I'm not saying it will be awful....I just don't expect a blockbuster month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 16 minutes ago, bluewave said: 2019 was the warmest January at Rockford, IL to feature a -25° or colder reading with the big temperature swings that month and a high over 50°. Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 2019Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 788 333 - - 1449 0 2.27 24.9 - Average 25.4 10.7 18.1 -3.7 - - - - 5.9 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 2019-01-01 32 23 27.5 4.2 37 0 T T 0 2019-01-02 28 22 25.0 1.9 40 0 T T 0 2019-01-03 39 20 29.5 6.5 35 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-04 46 26 36.0 13.2 29 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-05 50 26 38.0 15.3 27 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-06 40 26 33.0 10.5 32 0 T 0.0 0 2019-01-07 51 37 44.0 21.6 21 0 0.53 0.0 0 2019-01-08 44 21 32.5 10.3 32 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-09 23 16 19.5 -2.6 45 0 T T 0 2019-01-10 27 14 20.5 -1.5 44 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-11 29 17 23.0 1.2 42 0 0.00 0.0 0 2019-01-12 31 29 30.0 8.3 35 0 0.28 3.8 0 2019-01-13 32 26 29.0 7.4 36 0 0.01 0.2 4 2019-01-14 26 23 24.5 3.0 40 0 0.00 0.0 4 2019-01-15 33 24 28.5 7.0 36 0 T T 4 2019-01-16 34 26 30.0 8.6 35 0 T 0.0 3 2019-01-17 33 27 30.0 8.7 35 0 T T 3 2019-01-18 30 23 26.5 5.2 38 0 0.17 2.3 2 2019-01-19 24 6 15.0 -6.2 50 0 0.13 4.0 8 2019-01-20 10 -2 4.0 -17.2 61 0 0.00 0.0 8 2019-01-21 14 -7 3.5 -17.7 61 0 0.00 0.0 8 2019-01-22 31 13 22.0 0.8 43 0 0.24 1.5 7 2019-01-23 29 9 19.0 -2.2 46 0 0.23 4.2 11 2019-01-24 22 -2 10.0 -11.2 55 0 T 0.2 13 2019-01-25 1 -11 -5.0 -26.3 70 0 0.05 0.6 12 2019-01-26 5 -21 -8.0 -29.3 73 0 0.07 1.5 14 2019-01-27 8 -15 -3.5 -24.9 68 0 0.10 1.3 14 2019-01-28 21 9 15.0 -6.5 50 0 0.38 4.0 17 2019-01-29 10 -16 -3.0 -24.6 68 0 T 0.2 17 2019-01-30 -13 -25 -19.0 -40.7 84 0 0.00 0.0 17 2019-01-31 -2 -31 -16.5 -38.3 81 0 0.08 1.1 16 Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 1982Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 594 -47 - - 1735 0 1.58 14.8 - Average 19.2 -1.5 8.8 -13.0 - - - - 6.0 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 1982-01-01 18 3 10.5 -12.8 54 0 0.00 0.0 3 1982-01-02 34 15 24.5 1.4 40 0 0.28 1.9 3 1982-01-03 34 20 27.0 4.0 38 0 0.18 0.3 4 1982-01-04 33 9 21.0 -1.8 44 0 0.16 1.3 4 1982-01-05 31 6 18.5 -4.2 46 0 0.00 0.0 4 1982-01-06 23 5 14.0 -8.5 51 0 0.08 1.1 4 1982-01-07 5 -10 -2.5 -24.9 67 0 0.00 0.0 5 1982-01-08 15 -10 2.5 -19.7 62 0 0.02 0.3 5 1982-01-09 5 -21 -8.0 -30.1 73 0 0.04 0.4 5 1982-01-10 -5 -27 -16.0 -38.0 81 0 0.00 0.0 5 1982-01-11 3 -6 -1.5 -23.3 66 0 0.00 0.0 5 1982-01-12 10 -8 1.0 -20.7 64 0 0.11 1.1 5 1982-01-13 16 -3 6.5 -15.1 58 0 0.07 0.9 6 1982-01-14 7 -15 -4.0 -25.5 69 0 0.00 0.1 6 1982-01-15 12 -18 -3.0 -24.5 68 0 0.04 0.6 6 1982-01-16 6 -24 -9.0 -30.4 74 0 0.00 0.0 6 1982-01-17 2 -25 -11.5 -32.8 76 0 0.11 2.1 6 1982-01-18 22 0 11.0 -10.3 54 0 0.00 0.0 8 1982-01-19 27 5 16.0 -5.2 49 0 0.00 0.0 7 1982-01-20 28 7 17.5 -3.7 47 0 0.09 0.7 7 1982-01-21 27 23 25.0 3.8 40 0 0.00 0.0 8 1982-01-22 37 18 27.5 6.3 37 0 0.16 0.3 7 1982-01-23 37 -1 18.0 -3.2 47 0 0.00 0.0 7 1982-01-24 -1 -9 -5.0 -26.2 70 0 0.02 0.3 7 1982-01-25 7 -9 -1.0 -22.3 66 0 0.08 2.1 9 1982-01-26 9 -18 -4.5 -25.8 69 0 0.00 0.0 9 1982-01-27 35 8 21.5 0.1 43 0 0.00 0.0 9 1982-01-28 34 6 20.0 -1.5 45 0 0.00 0.0 7 1982-01-29 32 6 19.0 -2.6 46 0 0.13 1.1 6 1982-01-30 31 18 24.5 2.8 40 0 0.00 0.0 7 1982-01-31 20 8 14.0 -7.8 51 0 0.01 0.2 6 Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 1985Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 712 87 - - 1607 0 1.00 13.4 - Average 23.0 2.8 12.9 -8.9 - - - - 8.6 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 1985-01-01 31 2 16.5 -6.8 48 0 0.34 3.9 9 1985-01-02 10 -8 1.0 -22.1 64 0 0.00 0.0 9 1985-01-03 19 -14 2.5 -20.5 62 0 0.00 0.0 9 1985-01-04 32 -8 12.0 -10.8 53 0 0.00 0.0 9 1985-01-05 39 24 31.5 8.8 33 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-06 37 24 30.5 8.0 34 0 0.00 0.0 7 1985-01-07 37 28 32.5 10.1 32 0 T T 7 1985-01-08 28 8 18.0 -4.2 47 0 T T 7 1985-01-09 22 8 15.0 -7.1 50 0 0.01 0.1 7 1985-01-10 24 15 19.5 -2.5 45 0 0.11 1.7 8 1985-01-11 20 4 12.0 -9.8 53 0 T T 8 1985-01-12 14 0 7.0 -14.7 58 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-13 28 9 18.5 -3.1 46 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-14 35 4 19.5 -2.0 45 0 0.01 0.3 8 1985-01-15 15 -8 3.5 -18.0 61 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-16 22 11 16.5 -4.9 48 0 0.15 2.2 8 1985-01-17 22 11 16.5 -4.8 48 0 0.14 1.9 10 1985-01-18 25 6 15.5 -5.8 49 0 0.02 0.4 11 1985-01-19 6 -24 -9.0 -30.2 74 0 T T 11 1985-01-20 -5 -26 -15.5 -36.7 80 0 T T 11 1985-01-21 17 -6 5.5 -15.7 59 0 T T 11 1985-01-22 22 12 17.0 -4.2 48 0 T T 10 1985-01-23 27 15 21.0 -0.2 44 0 T T 8 1985-01-24 30 21 25.5 4.3 39 0 0.06 0.9 8 1985-01-25 29 -5 12.0 -9.3 53 0 0.01 0.2 9 1985-01-26 22 -10 6.0 -15.3 59 0 0.00 0.0 9 1985-01-27 30 8 19.0 -2.4 46 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-28 15 -5 5.0 -16.5 60 0 0.00 0.0 8 1985-01-29 22 -6 8.0 -13.6 57 0 0.01 0.2 8 1985-01-30 28 9 18.5 -3.2 46 0 0.14 1.5 7 1985-01-31 9 -12 -1.5 -23.3 66 0 T 0.1 9 Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 2009Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 695 160 - - 1580 0 0.81 12.6 - Average 22.4 5.2 13.8 -8.0 - - - - 5.1 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 2009-01-01 31 16 23.5 0.2 41 0 0.00 0.0 1 2009-01-02 30 14 22.0 -1.1 43 0 0.00 0.0 T 2009-01-03 37 16 26.5 3.5 38 0 T 0.0 T 2009-01-04 37 14 25.5 2.7 39 0 0.26 0.0 T 2009-01-05 29 9 19.0 -3.7 46 0 0.00 0.0 T 2009-01-06 31 17 24.0 1.5 41 0 0.06 0.8 T 2009-01-07 28 12 20.0 -2.4 45 0 T 0.2 1 2009-01-08 23 9 16.0 -6.2 49 0 T T 1 2009-01-09 30 12 21.0 -1.1 44 0 0.24 2.7 3 2009-01-10 28 18 23.0 1.0 42 0 0.04 3.8 6 2009-01-11 19 8 13.5 -8.3 51 0 T T 7 2009-01-12 27 7 17.0 -4.7 48 0 0.05 1.7 7 2009-01-13 22 -5 8.5 -13.1 56 0 0.01 0.4 7 2009-01-14 9 -6 1.5 -20.0 63 0 0.12 1.9 8 2009-01-15 -6 -17 -11.5 -33.0 76 0 0.00 0.0 9 2009-01-16 0 -25 -12.5 -33.9 77 0 0.00 0.0 9 2009-01-17 27 0 13.5 -7.8 51 0 T T 8 2009-01-18 17 9 13.0 -8.3 52 0 T 0.1 8 2009-01-19 20 6 13.0 -8.2 52 0 0.02 0.4 8 2009-01-20 19 6 12.5 -8.7 52 0 0.00 0.0 7 2009-01-21 25 10 17.5 -3.7 47 0 0.00 0.0 7 2009-01-22 31 5 18.0 -3.2 47 0 0.00 0.0 7 2009-01-23 27 12 19.5 -1.7 45 0 0.00 0.0 6 2009-01-24 12 -5 3.5 -17.7 61 0 0.00 0.0 6 2009-01-25 11 -5 3.0 -18.3 62 0 0.00 0.0 6 2009-01-26 14 -4 5.0 -16.3 60 0 T T 6 2009-01-27 15 4 9.5 -11.9 55 0 0.01 0.2 6 2009-01-28 16 1 8.5 -13.0 56 0 T 0.3 6 2009-01-29 29 15 22.0 0.4 43 0 T 0.1 6 2009-01-30 16 0 8.0 -13.7 57 0 T T 6 2009-01-31 41 7 24.0 2.2 41 0 0.00 0.0 6 Climatological Data for Rockford Area, IL (ThreadEx) - January 1924Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 792 90 - - 1566 0 1.27 9.5 - Average 25.5 2.9 14.2 -7.6 - - - - 3.8 Normal 29.1 14.5 21.8 - 1924-01-01 19 -13 3.0 -20.3 62 0 0.00 0.0 5 1924-01-02 24 -4 10.0 -13.1 55 0 T T 5 1924-01-03 21 -6 7.5 -15.5 57 0 0.00 0.0 5 1924-01-04 12 -11 0.5 -22.3 64 0 T T 5 1924-01-05 -11 -25 -18.0 -40.7 83 0 0.00 0.0 5 1924-01-06 23 -19 2.0 -20.5 63 0 0.00 0.0 5 1924-01-07 32 7 19.5 -2.9 45 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-08 44 13 28.5 6.3 36 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-09 41 35 38.0 15.9 27 0 0.16 0.0 M 1924-01-10 38 23 30.5 8.5 34 0 0.41 0.0 M 1924-01-11 24 17 20.5 -1.3 44 0 T T M 1924-01-12 21 7 14.0 -7.7 51 0 T T M 1924-01-13 18 -10 4.0 -17.6 61 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-14 25 9 17.0 -4.5 48 0 T T M 1924-01-15 35 20 27.5 6.0 37 0 0.00 0.0 T 1924-01-16 32 1 16.5 -4.9 48 0 0.68 9.5 M 1924-01-17 12 -15 -1.5 -22.8 66 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-18 20 -8 6.0 -15.3 59 0 T T M 1924-01-19 20 0 10.0 -11.2 55 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-20 6 -12 -3.0 -24.2 68 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-21 2 -21 -9.5 -30.7 74 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-22 36 -7 14.5 -6.7 50 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-23 33 16 24.5 3.3 40 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-24 36 11 23.5 2.3 41 0 0.02 T M 1924-01-25 35 -8 13.5 -7.8 51 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-26 8 -8 0.0 -21.3 65 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-27 25 -6 9.5 -11.9 55 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-28 40 19 29.5 8.0 35 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-29 39 33 36.0 14.4 29 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-30 43 27 35.0 13.3 30 0 0.00 0.0 M 1924-01-31 39 25 32.0 10.2 33 0 T 0.0 T I’m not sure using one month from one city seven years ago really proves much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 35 minutes ago, roardog said: So how much warmer was Greenland this month compared to a month with -NAO blocking in let’s say the late ‘70s? I honestly have no idea. If I remember correctly the winter of ‘76-‘77 was one of or the warmest winter in Alaska which makes sense because it was so cold down here. This January was much warmer in the Arctic and the CONUS than 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, MJO812 said: Suppression ? I thought you liked February . Too early to write off the whole month . Right I thought 2015 was coming through the door. Now it's cold and dry? Wth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 12 minutes ago, roardog said: I’m not sure using one month from one city seven years ago really proves much. That is just one example. The total amount across many locations and timeframes is too vast for me to list in one thread. But I have plenty of more examples for other individual locations and time periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, bluewave said: This January was much warmer in the Arctic and the CONUS than 1977. I was wondering if there’s a way to get Greenland’s average temp over a monthly period and compare to this January. There probably isn’t. This January in the US will be much warmer than 1977 because the planet is warmer and the pattern wasn’t even cold for the first half or so of the month. Look at Alaska. It was very warm in 1977 and actually will be below normal in much of the state this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e pluribus unum Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 48 minutes ago, bluewave said: This January was much warmer in the Arctic and the CONUS than 1977. Salt Lake City is at 0.1" of snow this winter with no subfreezing highs this season thus far. Both are literally unprecedented through this point of the season there. To your point, this season does fit pretty well with the concept of a warming world. Cold anomalies will obviously still exist to some extent, but there's a good chance that there will still be a yet more extreme standard deviation in the warm direction in some adjacent region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Another cold month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: Right I thought 2015 was coming through the door. Now it's cold and dry? Wth You saw my forecast snow totals for the season, right? Just bc a particular analog has some value doesn't mean it's going to be a replica season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, roardog said: After all the years of reading this board I feel like there’s three categories that the warmth cheering crowd falls into. 1. Someone who genuinely likes warm weather. They’re always hoping for the warmest it can be. 2. someone who knows the majority of the board likes cold and snow and hopes for warmth to see the misery of the cold lovers possibly because they are unhappy with their own life. 3. Someone who cheers on warmth because they want the cold lovers to be upset with humans for putting CO2 into the atmosphere. Political motivation is not out of the question with this type of person. 4. The resident contrarian..which on this board is anti-cold and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, e pluribus unum said: Salt Lake City is at 0.1" of snow this winter with no subfreezing highs this season thus far. Both are literally unprecedented through this point of the season there. To your point, this season does fit pretty well with the concept of a warming world. Cold anomalies will obviously still exist to some extent, but there's a good chance that there will still be a yet more extreme standard deviation in the warm direction in some adjacent region. The SLC snowlessness is crazy. But again. It doesn't take away from the persistent and widespread cold the east is having. Or the equally unprecedented powder snowstorms hitting the deep south. As someone who has read these boards for nearly 25 years, its incredible how during winters when the eastern US is cold, we suddenly get a massive influx of data recited from random areas never before discussed on here. Data that, of course, is anamously warm for said random areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyWxGuy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, e pluribus unum said: Salt Lake City is at 0.1" of snow this winter with no subfreezing highs this season thus far. Both are literally unprecedented through this point of the season there. To your point, this season does fit pretty well with the concept of a warming world. Cold anomalies will obviously still exist to some extent, but there's a good chance that there will still be a yet more extreme standard deviation in the warm direction in some adjacent region. The record warmth is almost always the story over the record cold because recess warmth happens more often these days than record cold. The record warmth and dry winter in the western US (and even parts of Central US) should be an even bigger story because of how unprecedented it is. This cold blast pales in comparison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, roardog said: So how much warmer was Greenland this month compared to a month with -NAO blocking in let’s say the late ‘70s? I honestly have no idea. If I remember correctly the winter of ‘76-‘77 was one of or the warmest winter in Alaska which makes sense because it was so cold down here. I never knew that....and I certainly never heard that on here. But I looked it up and you are correct. The winter of 1976-77 was by far the warmest on record in Alaska. Oh, another thing that's never, ever brought up. The deep cold alaska was in during March 2012. I just can't figure out why we were never discussing those things The many, many times 2012 or 1977 have been brought up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 36 minutes ago, NyWxGuy said: The record warmth is almost always the story over the record cold because recess warmth happens more often these days than record cold. The record warmth and dry winter in the western US (and even parts of Central US) should be an even bigger story because of how unprecedented it is. This cold blast pales in comparison Dont agree with this.This is more or less some hybrid weather pattern this winter,plus while it can happen the atmospheric river into the west is more Nino than NINA,you cant possibly say the west has been dry this winter,California is over 300% in some parts of abnormal QPFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 1 minute ago Share Posted 1 minute ago 1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said: I never knew that....and I certainly never heard that on here. But I looked it up and you are correct. The winter of 1976-77 was by far the warmest on record in Alaska. Oh, another thing that's never, ever brought up. The deep cold alaska was in during March 2012. I just can't figure out why we were never discussing those things The many, many times 2012 or 1977 have been brought up The odd thing about 2012 and 1977 is that both ended up producing record warm springs in most of the eastern half to two-thirds of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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