MAG5035 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 30 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said: The EPS has also been consistent for the last few days with the track while the GEFS has been bouncing around. Yea the most consistent actually. Weatherbell has newer tools in its meteograms section to see trends. Here’s Euro EPS v GEFS, I’m using UNV this time. EURO EPS GEFS The initialization timescale is a bit different between the two since the GEFS includes 18 and 6z runs and the Euro EPS only uses 0 and 12z, but you can see the Euro EPS started dialing this Sunday event in with the 0z run on the 16th, while the GEFS finally started seeing it better this morning at 6z, though you can see it has seen the event to a degree. . Conversely, the GEFS started seeing the potential 2nd event before the Euro EPS. These products are available for the op models too. And of course the GFS op’s first run that had measurable snowfall with the Sunday event at UNV was the 12z run today. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Icon is all snow for most of the LSV as it continues to focus on a coastal much earlier than other models. No precip at all in NW PA. Morning church is ok on the Icon....focuses later Sunday, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said: Icon is all snow for most of the LSV as it continues to focus on a coastal much earlier than other models. No precip at all in NW PA. Great start to 0z ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Icon is all snow for most of the LSV as it continues to focus on a coastal much earlier than other models. No precip at all in NW PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said: Great start to 0z ! The Icon simply transfers much earlier...much less interaction to pull the low west of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said: The Icon simply transfers much earlier...much less interaction to pull the low west of us. It has been consistent for several runs now with the low placement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Let’s go 0z! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Regardless of Consistency, gfs keeps getting the primary too far north for southern PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windycutter Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said: Regardless of Consistency, gfs keeps getting the primary too far north for southern PA. It appears that the Icon brought it further north around 93. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I 2 minutes ago, windycutter said: It appears that the Icon brought it further north around 93. The icon is on point. Hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windycutter Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, paweather said: I The icon is on point. Hopefully As It looks to me, when comparing snow maps from 18z and 0z, the Icon was better ar 18z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, windycutter said: As It looks to me, when comparing snow maps from 18z and 0z, the Icon was better ar 18z. Yeah understood but still look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, windycutter said: As It looks to me, when comparing snow maps from 18z and 0z, the Icon was better ar 18z. To me the icon appears a bit more progressive. Hardly any rain in PA at 0z. 18z has quite a bit in Southeast PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, Bubbler86 said: To me the icon appears a bit more progressive. Hardly any rain in PA at 0z. 18z has quite a bit in Southeast PA. Time for the EURO if that changes I’m out for this one but what I saw at 12z never. I’ll have to wake up for it because I’m old. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, paweather said: Time for the EURO if that changes I’m out for this one but what I saw at 12z never. I’ll have to wake up for it because I’m old. Lol The GFS hate is going to run strong tonight. Mid week low is on the cusp of Lake Erie late Tue night/early Wed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 GFS takes a primary along to the Lakes with the coastal for the Wednesday event as well. True central goes from ice to snow at the end but obviously not ideal. Canadian has front end snow that goes to mix/rain in the LSV as the coastal low goes by for Sunday event (not to the Wednesday one yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Regardless of Consistency, gfs keeps getting the primary too far north for southern PA. The 0z GFS can’t figure out the low track and bounces it west, north, south & then east to the coast (did I miss any directions?)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 The 0z Canadian improved for Sunday and has a similar low track to the Euro. It brings a widespread Advisory event to all of CTP this run for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 early morning GFS finally starts to come around to the earlier coastal. 0z run at 84 had slp in KY 6z has slp in south GA. Still not a winner for me, but gotta get the track right before anyone can fret over how much shoveling you'll be doing, but verbatim this track is coming in line and should make many central and northers happy. I still need to see the other camps stay south for me to be in the game. Shit..........I needed to get work done today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 The 0z Euro still produces the potential of an Advisory level event for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 0z Euro snow map for through Monday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 We are now at the point in the episode of World Series of Poker where Norm Chad talks about this being a critical point in short-stack's game where he doesn't want to be blinded out, but isn't quite at the "all-in" moment, and has a few hands left before getting there.Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Blizzard of 93 said: 0z Euro snow map for through Monday Nws wants nothing to do with snow at least in the lower Susquehanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Did not check the UK but the Euro and CMC/Rgem seem to be in a smaller camp now in keeping the primary stronger as it climbs....the GFS has a primary push of warm air but much more Icon like with Surface features now....NAM looks more Icon like if not even more extreme and maybe too far south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 10 hours ago, GrandmasterB said: Keep us posted! well its not like im wrong about that. even inside 24 hours ive been in a blizzard warning to nothing lol. I just dunno how when I was younger it felt like they were more accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 The 6z ICON remained steady and would be a crowd pleaser on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 The 6z Euro at the end of the 90 hr. run has almost no defined low until it begins to form a closed low in eastern North Carolina when the run ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherman Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said: The 6z Euro at the end of the 90 hr. run has almost no defined low until it begins to form a closed low in eastern North Carolina when the run ends. I watched a documentary about the '93 Storm of the Century and they talked about how the computer models nailed it three or four days ahead of time. Almost 30 years later and here we are.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said: The 6z ICON remained steady and would be a crowd pleaser on here. icon actually ticked SE a bit from 0z. Not much but better but better than heading the wrong way. It lets go of the primary a tad earlier as well. Helps our precious thermal gradient. Cant believe I'm wanting to throw my chips on it, but it's definately inside the scope of options for us. Its an ideal track for us all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, anotherman said: I watched a documentary about the '93 Storm of the Century and they talked about how the computer models nailed it three or four days ahead of time. Almost 30 years later and here we are.... What an awesome experience that was. I remember it like it was yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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