• Member Statistics

    15,777
    Total Members
    7,904
    Most Online
    mansour
    Newest Member
    mansour
    Joined
Sign in to follow this  
wolfie09

Upstate NY Coronavirus and Banter .

Recommended Posts

As far as the kick in above the state unemployment weekly benefit rate, I'd be happy if the Feds would just add in the difference to get folks to their normal 40 hour work week. Even that would be a big help.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 hours ago, DeltaT13 said:

Let's say they give 200 million dollars to the performing arts, which is something that has the potential to actually help normal Americans, that accounts for less than .1% of the 2 TRILLION dollar bailout but somehow you are fine with $500 BILLION (25%!!) for corporate bailouts even though these companies just got a massive tax cut and have been buying back stock like crazy.  

Either you are really bad at math or you are you awful human, because that is decimal dust in the grand scheme of it all.  I'm starting to think its the latter...

From what i have gleaned, the bill, pending House adjustments, would prevent stock buybacks for a period of time going forward.  Many corporations have use the artificially low interest rate environment of the past decade (one of the distortions of QE and Fed policy ), to buyback stock to goose share values and P/E's, ostensibly to boost Executive Suite compensation and drive more upward price action.  Everyone can agree that it turned out to be shortsighted and greedy but the problem going forward is to protect jobs and business.  Sure, it would feel good to let Boeing, American and other major corporations fail.  But then there's the jobs that would be lost, many permanently.

So, being adults, we hold our nose at the various provisions of the Bailout Bill that we don't agree with but one side or the other wanted.  For the greater good.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, rochesterdave said:

And when the democrats try and reign in the corporations, in favor of the worker, you fail to recognize it. I’m sorry Tim but you honestly represent the base Trump voter: uneducated, angry, reactionary and easily deceived into voting opposite your self interest. 
Our government isn’t fascist. Throwing about reckless proclamations, such as that, is counter productive to having anyone take you seriously. Really. 

Dave do you realize what fascism is. Come on do some research bro. And same can be said for you. Overeducated who thinks he knows everything cause of a piece of paper. Hates anyone who thinks diffrent. Typical liberal thinking.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Syrmax said:

From what i have gleaned, the bill, pending House adjustments, would prevent stock buybacks for a period of time going forward.  Many corporations have use the artificially low interest rate environment of the past decade (one of the distortions of QE and Fed policy ), to buyback stock to goose share values and P/E's, ostensibly to boost Executive Suite compensation and drive more upward price action.  Everyone can agree that it turned out to be shortsighted and greedy but the problem going forward is to protect jobs and business.  Sure, it would feel good to let Boeing, American and other major corporations fail.  But then there's the jobs that would be lost, many permanently.

So, being adults, we hold our nose at the various provisions of the Bailout Bill that we don't agree with but one side or the other wanted.  For the greater good.

And to my point above....new data is breaking this a.m.

(CNBC) Americans displaced by the coronavirus crisis filed unemployment claims in record numbers, with the Labor Department reporting Thursday a surge to 3.28 million.

The number shatters the Great Recession peak of 665,000 in March 2009 and the all-time mark of 695,000 in October 1982. The previous week, which reflected the period before the worst of the coronavirus hit, was just 282,000.

Consensus estimates from economists surveyed by Dow Jones showed an expectation for 1.5 million new claims, though individual forecasts on Wall Street had been anticipating a much higher number. The surge comes amid a crippling slowdown brought on by the coronavirus crisis.

The 4-week moving average, which smooths out weekly distortions, was 1,731,000, an increase of 27,500 from the previous week’s revised average.

IMG_20200326_085411.jpg

  • Confused 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, tim123 said:

Dave do you realize what fascism is. Come on do some research bro. And same can be said for you. Overeducated who thinks he knows everything cause of a piece of paper. Hates anyone who thinks diffrent. Typical liberal thinking.

If this were a fascist nation, we would not be having this particular discussion. Lol. Fascist.  Silly. 

I don’t know from what school one would get a piece paper from that would lead you to believe america was fascist but it should shut down for malpractice.  If I had that piece of paper I’d tear it up and get a refund.  

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, DeltaT13 said:

Orange man is an idiot.

Socialism is good.

Not sure where communism comes in other than you probably don’t understand what socialism is and are confusing the two.

Do you know what this bailout is.......socialism!!  

You need to calm the f*ck down and read what you post before clicking Enter.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Syrmax said:

You need to calm the f*ck down and read what you post before clicking Enter.

Just curious, What exactly did you dislike about that post so much?  Seemed one of the more harmless ones of the bunch. 

  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

After reading a few articles it's the governor who makes the call on when restrictions are lifted...

What about state stay-at-home orders? 

States with stay-at-home orders made by their governors could continue those orders,  regardless of whether Trump lifts the federal guidelines. 

As of Tuesday, at least 17 states have stay-at-home orders in place, and at least 10 others have some cities or counties that have issued their own orders. Each state has their own rules in place for how long the orders last. For example, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine’s stay-at-home order is set until April 6, while some governors have not given an exact date that the order will end.

In addition to stay-at-home orders, several states have closed school for several weeks or even until the end of the school year, such as Virginia and Kansas. Those orders also could stay in place if Trump lifts the federal guidelines.

"We are at war," DeWine said Sunday when announcing his executive order to have Ohioans stay home. "And in a time of war we have to make sacrifices.

The country's public health law is a patchwork of responsibilities divided up between the federal and state governments, but typically states are in control of "police powers," according to Professor Glenn Cohen, faculty director for the Petrie-Flom Center for Health Law Policy, Biotechnology & Bioethics at Harvard Law School. Some states even delegate those powers to individual localities. 

But if Trump decides to lift the federal guidance, states like California or New York that have issued stay-at-home orders "may decide to follow suit or not, but typically have significant discretion as to what to do," he said

  •  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

As of yesterday, not sure if these numbers are 24 hour intervals or what lol

 

 

Screenshot_20200326-092559.png

Almost 13.5k new cases and nearly 250 deaths are both a pretty sizable increase from the days before 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's funny because my in-laws who are a big supporter of an unnamed person thinks everything is on the way up lol That we just have this"magic pill" that will cure the world, everything will be back to normal in a couple weeks they say :whistle:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There does need to be a balance. I am not saying there isnt a serious issue with this virus. But again what the president is saying is the shutdown of entire country is unsustainable and if goes on to long much bigger issues will result. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, DeltaT13 said:

Just curious, What exactly did you dislike about that post so much?  Seemed one of the more harmless ones of the bunch. 

I was more referring in general.  You'll get more head nods without the personal attacks is all i'm saying.  We're all guilty of it at times.  In real life, i get slammed or attacked by both Right and Left and frankly my patience with it has worn out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The country is not shut down lmao

17 states have some restrictions. 

The vice president said NY is the exception not the rule in terms of lifting restrictions. 

Why would people even wanna work when you're getting more money to sit at home and not catch the virus lol

Why would they extend unemployment to 39 weeks if this is a short term issue?

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A long-distance runner has described how COVID-19 made him feel like he was drowning - and warned young people to take the disease seriously.

Daryl Doblados, 29, ran the Cambridge half marathon just 10 days before he was diagnosed with the virus.

The father of two, who has no underlying health conditions, called 111 last Thursday as he struggled to breathe and was told to call an ambulance.

He said: "It just feels like your lungs are filling up with smoke or liquid. I struggled to breathe. I've never experienced anything like this before."

Mr Doblados was discharged from hospital eight hours after his admission, with a consultant advising him to monitor his breathing and to call 111 again if it worsened

He posted a video of himself on Facebook from his home in Littleport, Cambridgeshire, where he is self-isolating.

"I'm still struggling now on day four of recovery. If I don't concentrate on my breathing then it feels just like you're drowning."

He said he made the video to warn young people to take coronavirus seriously.

"The nature of this virus is that it will get you.

"For the young people out there, we need to make sure that we do this, do this right, we stay away from as many people as possible to stop the spread of infection."

His message was echoed by another coronavirus patient who has urged the Irish government to bring in more restrictions on public movement in a bid to stop the spread of the virus.

Micheal Prendergast, 28, told Sky News he developed symptoms shortly after flying home to Ireland from London last week.

Speaking from his bed in an isolation ward at Kerry General Hospital, he said: "If you don't get affected as bad as I have, I guarantee your parents, or your aunts and uncles or your grandparents are going to be. This virus is a killer."

He added: "It's extremely disheartening to see that people are out and about. I would call on the government to make a proactive step - instead of reactive - to have tighter controls on the public."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Does anyone believe there is a number out there that will satisfy the government, state or federal that will allow these restrictions to be lifted or lessened? My reasoning is this. China was reporting little to no new cases for a few days to a week or so and then allowed travelers who were away from home cone back bringing a second but smaller wave. If just travel alone can spark a rise in the viral spread then I fear this will be months of our new normal and lots of unrecoverable job loss. Thoughts? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
44 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

The country is not shut down lmao

17 states have some restrictions. 

The vice president said NY is the exception not the rule in terms of lifting restrictions. 

Why would people even wanna work when you're getting more money to sit at home and not catch the virus lol

Why would they extend unemployment to 39 weeks if this is a short term issue?

 

The head doctor of Trump said he expects the virus to come back in the fall again. Similar to the 1918 virus did, which mutated over the summer and came back.

  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The main way to spread this virus is from person to person which is why it's key to keep a good distance..

Person-to-person spread

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

  • Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
  • Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic (the sickest).
  • Some spread might be possible before people show symptoms; there have been reports of this occurring with this new coronavirus, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.
  • It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

CNN Business)Amazon warehouses are facing a growing tide of coronavirus cases with at least 11 facilities hit so far, according to Amazon and local media reports.

One person who works in Amazon's Staten Island, New York, fulfillment center tested positive for the novel coronavirus, the online retail giant told CNN Business late Tuesday. The person, who was last at work physically on March 11, is in quarantine and recovering, Amazon said.
That case marks the second to affect Amazon warehouses in New York. It comes a week after the first reported case at any US Amazon facility, in Queens, NY. The company also confirmed a case at a facility in Joliet, Ill. and at an Edison, NJ facility Wednesday. Other positive cases have been reported at Amazon facilities in Moreno Valley, Calif.; Jacksonville, Fla.; Shepherdsville, Ky.; Brownstown, Mich.; Oklahoma City, Okla.; Katy, Texas; and Wallingford, Conn.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

CLAY, N.Y. -- A United States Postal Service employee who works at the Taft Road post office and processing center has tested positive for the coronavirus, the agency said Wednesday.

The USPS did not provide any other information about the employee, including what route the employee may have worked or whether the employee worked in the office.

In a memo obtained by Syracuse.com | The Post-Standard, the postal service told workers that “the risk is low” for employees working in the facility. The memo said federal law prohibited them from releasing the name of the employee or medical information about the person.

Onondaga County has reported 81 positive cases of COVID-19 so far, including one death.

As of 3 p.m. on Wednesday, 248 people were in mandatory isolation. The county currently has results for roughly 1,550 tests of the nearly 2,400 tests taken countywide.

Experts told USA Today it’s unlikely that the coronavirus could spread via the mail because of the virus’ livability on paper and cardboard.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said:

The head doctor of Trump said he expects the virus to come back in the fall again. Similar to the 1918 virus did, which mutated over the summer and came back.

I think a return of the virus is likely for epidemiological reasons, largely because most western governments won’t do what it takes to track cases effectively. But there is good news that may keep the rate of return slow: apparently the virus has a very low mutation rate, so antibodies and (fingers crossed) a vaccine should be effective for some time to come.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
36 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

CLAY, N.Y. -- A United States Postal Service employee who works at the Taft Road post office and processing center has tested positive for the coronavirus, the agency said Wednesday.

The USPS did not provide any other information about the employee, including what route the employee may have worked or whether the employee worked in the office.

In a memo obtained by Syracuse.com | The Post-Standard, the postal service told workers that “the risk is low” for employees working in the facility. The memo said federal law prohibited them from releasing the name of the employee or medical information about the person.

Onondaga County has reported 81 positive cases of COVID-19 so far, including one death.

As of 3 p.m. on Wednesday, 248 people were in mandatory isolation. The county currently has results for roughly 1,550 tests of the nearly 2,400 tests taken countywide.

Experts told USA Today it’s unlikely that the coronavirus could spread via the mail because of the virus’ livability on paper and cardboard.

Don’t believe any of the BS they tell you. New England Journal of medicine showed viability of the virus on paper and cardboard for up to 24 hours. If a mail handler, clerk, or carrier is infected even if they don’t know and they come in contact with it and you touch it there is a possibility you could be infected from it. I would recommend leaving all your mail in your mailbox for 24 hours then bringing it inside, wipe off your mailbox with a disinfectant wipe daily and wash your hands immediately after going through your mail. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As long as this thing doesn't mutate a ton the vaccine, when developed, will take care of it for many, many years w/boosters  - similar to MMR, Tdap, etc. That's the hope and a good - case scenario. 

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree 100%

I haven't got my mail in a week lol 

I had ups here 2 days ago and the package is still under my car port .I'm gonna wear gloves to retrieve the mail, not touch my face and then wash my hands..

Even the mail here goes through quarantine lol

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.