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March 13-14, The Blizzard of 2017: Obs

Rtd208

By Rtd208,
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3 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

Boston evidently got 12-14 inches anyway before just changing over  despite many of the high res models last night backing off there.   So you can certainly see the system deepening made a difference there 

the changeover must have happened while it was falling quite hard, hence a delay of just an hour could mean an extra few inches

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2 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

Boston evidently got 12-14 inches anyway before just changing over  despite many of the high res models last night backing off there.   So you can certainly see the system deepening made a difference there 

Yeah, they're NW suburbs are going to do very well if that mix line can continue to hold off. That's the kind of situation I was expecting here.

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Just now, sferic said:

OK, does it snow Friday night into Saturday? LOL

I just posted about it in the model thread.  I did not dig deep into the Euro solution when I saw it earlier, the thicknesses and 850s were marginal though for late March and that is the sort of system that often goes north of us.  There is a pretty nasty vortex though in SE Canada that could keep it south of us

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8 minutes ago, BombsAway1288 said:

Kudos to NWS Albany as well. They were bullish from the start. Basically had 2' area wide maps for their CWA on Saturday when I was worried about it shifting too far east and obliterating SNE like these usually do.

They got lucky! Meteorology comes down to luck in my opinion. Just yesterday even the top weather people thought NYC would get 20 inches. Mother Nature isn't exactly science I guess that's why we're so intrigued by it. 

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I just posted about it in the model thread.  I did not dig deep into the Euro solution when I saw it earlier, the thicknesses and 850s were marginal though for late March and that is the sort of system that often goes north of us.  There is a pretty nasty vortex though in SE Canada that could keep it south of us


Yeah, that s/w looks like it deepens too late and N of us.

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20 minutes ago, danstorm said:

 

 Sleet is a total buzzkill.

I just passed 5 hours of nothin' but sleet :(  In the last few minutes I've started seeing some random flakes mixing in though so maybe it flips back before winding up but I won't hold my breath.  I spent hours out in it shoveling and I'm not done yet.  Got 12-14 before the changeover then 4-5" of pure sleet packing it down and turning the whole thing into a godawful, backbreaking mess.

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10 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:
6 minutes ago, JetsPens87 said:

You raise some good questions and I like your intrigue into what makes things tick.

Had this occurred in January exactly as it is occurring now I don't think there would be much sensible difference in snowfall accumulations across the coastal plain to be completely honest. The mid level warmth can win no matter what time of year and it's especially easy when the phase doesn't occur before your latitude since there is no cold air transport yet to be tapped into by dynamic cooling.

To your next question, the coastal itself was and is an absolute bomb, its H5 that didn't work out for us in time and favored interior areas where mid level warmth didn't intrude as far so they were fine regardless. But the southern energy was juiced with a straight firehose from the Gulf/Atlantic. 

 

Thanks, with so much southern energy this almost reminds me of an el nino system!

I have a feeling you're completely right, this systems reminds me of a couple I experienced in January 1994 (eastern PA got a lot of heavy snow in those too- it's Allentown's winter of record) and despite so much exceptionally cold air around back, all our storms that month were mixed precip storms.

Just talked to some friends back on Long Island and they are telling me the temperatures have dropped and the snow is coming down quite hard there, but nothing is on the radar?

 

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2 minutes ago, USCG RS said:

It's storms like this that makes me glad I decided to pursue law enforcement vs a pro met lol

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can you arrest a computer model or a storm for bad behavior lol?

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Just now, mophstymeo01 said:

 


Strongest sustained winds of the day, though the flizzard itself may have stopped.


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I think it's all happening because the low center just passed.

This is actually a micro version of Dec 1992, when we had wind and rain for three days, and as soon as the Low center went east of us it changed to light snow, we got 1-3 when that happened.

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Just now, NorthShoreWx said:

Slizzard conditions have commenced.  (the drizzle is now tiny ice pellets).  Waiting patiently to see a few little snowflakes dying of loneliness on the way to earth.

It's entertaining to watch those flakes stick to the hood of your car.  You can literally count each flake lol.

 

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1 minute ago, jm1220 said:

Seeing videos of flooding from this morning in parts of town. Looks like a couple of feet of water in places with ice chunks floating down the streets lol. 

Heard it was worst in ACY with a 3.5 ft surge, it's number 9 on the list for them.  It bumped down last year's blizzard to number 10 at 3.25 ft.

I don't want to hear anyone downplay last year's snowstorm anymore, we might never see anything like that again in our lifetimes.

This storm was great in the Poconos but I love long-lasting storms the most.

 

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1 hour ago, snywx said:

Far from pitiful.. When this storm ends ill be at or over 75" for the year

You're nowhere near me though.I'm really talking about Union Co on down. There were lots of years where folks up your way had plenty of snow and we didn't, for years. The odd thing was that some places up there were not in some recent years. That was really unusual. I would normally expect things to be very different north of here. Amazing how just two hours away or even less there is such a difference, but that was always the case most of the time. What is your seasonal average? A late friend lived in the little Adirondacks as he called them, and said he got about 70 a winter. The earlier storms this year tracked east so that even the city did a lot better than us. In fact, it did today. I'm glad we had the snows we did, but today was a real pain in the A with all the sleet. It was dangerous, I got stuck in the slush and pelted by sand pebbles. The dog wouldn't even go out. Those big MTD snowblowers are close to useless in any kind of mix. The electric Toro does better.

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