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BTW, to those who think it's unbelievable to go from below zero to 40s in 24 hours....here are instances where in 24 hours the low and high went from below zero to at least 35.  Bold are the best examples.

 

January 12-13, 1881

12th Low: -3

13th High 42

 

January 29-30, 1885

29th Low: -1

30th High: 40

 

January 18-19, 1887

18th Low: -1

19th High: 39

 

February 3-4, 1898

3rd Low: -5

4th High: 39

 

February 14-15, 1899

14th Low: -5

15th High: 36

 

December 21-22, 1901

21st Low: -7

22nd High: 37

 

January 10-11, 1910

10th Low: -3

11th High: 35

 

January 16-17, 1912

16th Low: -1

17th High: 40

 

February 13-14, 1912

13th Low: -1

14th High: 40

 

February 13-14, 1917

13th Low: -1

14th High: 38

 

February 5-6, 1918

5th Low: -10

6th High: 41

 

January 21-22, 1924

21st Low: -4

22nd High: 36

 

January 29-30, 1926

29th Low: -5

30th High: 50

 

December 21-22, 1942

21st Low: -2

22nd High: 39

 

January 19-20, 1948

19th Low: -1

20th High: 39

 

December 28-29, 1950

28th Low: -10

29th High: 40

 

January 31-February 1, 1955

31st Low: -5

1st High: 41

 

January 18-19, 1959

18th Low: -2

19th High: 37

 

February 5-6, 1965

5th Low: -1

6th High: 51

 

February 10-11, 1971

10th Low: -1

11th High: 41

 

January 16-17, 1972

16th Low: -12

17th High: 38

 

February 2-3, 1977

2nd Low: -4

3rd High: 35

 

February 8-9, 1977

8th Low: -13

9th High: 39

 

January 23-24, 1978

23rd Low: -7

24th High: 35

 

February 20-21, 1979

20th Low: -2

21st High: 42

 

January 27-28, 1982

27th Low: -4

28th High: 41

 

January 22-23, 1984

22nd Low: -3

23rd High: 38

 

January 16-17, 1992

16th Low: -3

17th High: 36

 

January 27-28, 2003

27th Low: -5

28th High: 35

 

February 12-13, 2014

12th Low: -3

13th High: 40

 

There are MANY other examples of low single digits to 0 followed by highs above 40.  So yeah... it can happen, though there are few examples of going from -10 or greater to 40 or above the next day.

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BTW, to those who think it's unbelievable to go from below zero to 40s in 24 hours....here are instances where in 24 hours the low and high went from below zero to at least 35.  Bold are the best examples.

 

January 12-13, 1881

12th Low: -3

13th High 42

 

January 29-30, 1885

29th Low: -1

30th High: 40

 

January 18-19, 1887

18th Low: -1

19th High: 39

 

February 3-4, 1898

3rd Low: -5

4th High: 39

 

February 14-15, 1899

14th Low: -5

15th High: 36

 

December 21-22, 1901

21st Low: -7

22nd High: 37

 

January 10-11, 1910

10th Low: -3

11th High: 35

 

January 16-17, 1912

16th Low: -1

17th High: 40

 

February 13-14, 1912

13th Low: -1

14th High: 40

 

February 13-14, 1917

13th Low: -1

14th High: 38

 

February 5-6, 1918

5th Low: -10

6th High: 41

 

January 21-22, 1924

21st Low: -4

22nd High: 36

 

January 29-30, 1926

29th Low: -5

30th High: 50

 

December 21-22, 1942

21st Low: -2

22nd High: 39

 

January 19-20, 1948

19th Low: -1

20th High: 39

 

December 28-29, 1950

28th Low: -10

29th High: 40

 

January 31-February 1, 1955

31st Low: -5

1st High: 41

 

January 18-19, 1959

18th Low: -2

19th High: 37

 

February 5-6, 1965

5th Low: -1

6th High: 51

 

February 10-11, 1971

10th Low: -1

11th High: 41

 

January 16-17, 1972

16th Low: -12

17th High: 38

 

February 2-3, 1977

2nd Low: -4

3rd High: 35

 

February 8-9, 1977

8th Low: -13

9th High: 39

 

January 23-24, 1978

23rd Low: -7

24th High: 35

 

February 20-21, 1979

20th Low: -2

21st High: 42

 

January 27-28, 1982

27th Low: -4

28th High: 41

 

January 22-23, 1984

22nd Low: -3

23rd High: 38

 

January 16-17, 1992

16th Low: -3

17th High: 36

 

January 27-28, 2003

27th Low: -5

28th High: 35

 

February 12-13, 2014

12th Low: -3

13th High: 40

 

There are MANY other examples of low single digits to 0 followed by highs above 40.  So yeah... it can happen, though there are few examples of going from -10 or greater to 40 or above the next day.

 

agree, that's an argument I stopped buying a long time ago.   Takes nothing to scour out cold air on an approaching warm tongue

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BTW, to those who think it's unbelievable to go from below zero to 40s in 24 hours....here are instances where in 24 hours the low and high went from below zero to at least 35.  Bold are the best examples.

 

January 12-13, 1881

12th Low: -3

13th High 42

 

January 29-30, 1885

29th Low: -1

30th High: 40

 

January 18-19, 1887

18th Low: -1

19th High: 39

 

February 3-4, 1898

3rd Low: -5

4th High: 39

 

February 14-15, 1899

14th Low: -5

15th High: 36

 

December 21-22, 1901

21st Low: -7

22nd High: 37

 

January 10-11, 1910

10th Low: -3

11th High: 35

 

January 16-17, 1912

16th Low: -1

17th High: 40

 

February 13-14, 1912

13th Low: -1

14th High: 40

 

February 13-14, 1917

13th Low: -1

14th High: 38

 

February 5-6, 1918

5th Low: -10

6th High: 41

 

January 21-22, 1924

21st Low: -4

22nd High: 36

 

January 29-30, 1926

29th Low: -5

30th High: 50

 

December 21-22, 1942

21st Low: -2

22nd High: 39

 

January 19-20, 1948

19th Low: -1

20th High: 39

 

December 28-29, 1950

28th Low: -10

29th High: 40

 

January 31-February 1, 1955

31st Low: -5

1st High: 41

 

January 18-19, 1959

18th Low: -2

19th High: 37

 

February 5-6, 1965

5th Low: -1

6th High: 51

 

February 10-11, 1971

10th Low: -1

11th High: 41

 

January 16-17, 1972

16th Low: -12

17th High: 38

 

February 2-3, 1977

2nd Low: -4

3rd High: 35

 

February 8-9, 1977

8th Low: -13

9th High: 39

 

January 23-24, 1978

23rd Low: -7

24th High: 35

 

February 20-21, 1979

20th Low: -2

21st High: 42

 

January 27-28, 1982

27th Low: -4

28th High: 41

 

January 22-23, 1984

22nd Low: -3

23rd High: 38

 

January 16-17, 1992

16th Low: -3

17th High: 36

 

January 27-28, 2003

27th Low: -5

28th High: 35

 

February 12-13, 2014

12th Low: -3

13th High: 40

 

There are MANY other examples of low single digits to 0 followed by highs above 40.  So yeah... it can happen, though there are few examples of going from -10 or greater to 40 or above the next day.

How many of these involved a deep snowpack though like KY/southern OH has right now?

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Jb, that's kinda the point I was making. It's not that I don't buy it but I'd like to see how many times it's been 20 below to raise back to 40. I doubt there's a ton of times we've went 20 below let alone back to 40 the next day

 

For Columbus, that's never happened.  For other areas, I don't know.  The examples I gave changed from between 35-55 degrees in 24 hours, so pretty significant changes regardless.

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I was just looking at the ggem ensembles from 12z. wow, the OP was an outlier with that amped system. VAST majority of ens members were well southeast and much weaker. Several even appear to be non-events.

They'd never post that in the storm thread! I say we keep this thread as our storm thread.
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They'd never post that in the storm thread! I say we keep this thread as our storm thread.

 

I get them off wxbell, I would have posted but it would have been hard to read without blowing them up pretty big.  But yea, I don't think a wound up storm to Ohio is a given by any means..... this could so easily string out into nothing or a weaker low.

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ILN's take on this weekend:

THE KEY IS WITH HEAVIER PCPN SAT AFTN/EVE...AND IF FASTER/FLATTER/COLDER SOLNPREVAILS WE MAY BE DEALING WITH MORE OF AN ACCUMULATING SNOW EVENTNORTH OF I-70.  IF SYSTEM IS A LITTLE MORE WOUND UP /ECMWF/ IT SEEMSPRETTY CERTAIN THAT ALL RAIN MAKES IT WELL INTO AND THROUGH THEFORECAST AREA. FOR RIGHT NOW...HEAVY BLENDING OF WPC AND ECMWFSOLUTIONS STARTS THE AREA OUT IN LIGHT SNOW SATURDAY MORNING...ANDKEEPING RAIN/SNOW IN THE PICTURE LONGER INTO SATURDAY...THEN APERIOD OF ALL RAIN SAT EVE BEFORE BACK TO SNOW BEFORE ENDING. THISSYSTEM NEEDS WATCHED CLOSELY IF A COLDER/FLATTER/FASTER SOLUTIONBECOMES PREFERRED THAT GOOD SNOW ACCUMS WOULD BE POSSIBLE ESPNORTHERN 1/2 OF FORECAST AREA AND ICY/WINTRY MIX IN THE SOUTH. MANYPOSSIBILITIES HERE...AND TODAY/S CYCLE OF GUIDANCE DID LITTLE TODIMINISH THE UNCERTAINTY.
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This storm has the look of a pouring rain storm, or a whiff storm.  Cold sector qpf seems quite sparse with this one.

 

the sweet spot for this storm is whoever is directly in it's path and getting a front end thump changing to drizzle at the end.   NAM crushes central KY to DC before they warm, (but by then most of precip has ended)    

Hopefully the nam is overdoing the suppression

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Something for us Ohioans to hang on to -- Ripped from the NE thread.

 

EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION

NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD

1046 AM EST WED FEB 18 2015

VALID 12Z SAT FEB 21 2015 - 12Z WED FEB 25 2015

RELIED ON THE FASTER, FLATTER GUIDANCE OVER THE EASTERN UNITED STATES AT THE MEDIUM RANGE THIS FORECAST PACKAGE, WITH DEFERENCE TO THE PRIMACY OF COLD AIR. MUCH AS THE MODELS THIS TIME LAST WEEK

WERE WONT TO LIFT THE CURTAIN OF ARCTIC AIR IN THE EAST TO ALLOW A SURFACE LOW TO PASS WEST OF THE APPALACHIANS FOR THE TIME FRAME VERIFYING YESTERDAY AND TODAY--WITH A FLATTER, COLDER WAVE THE

REALITY--BELIEVE THAT A SIMILAR ISSUE EXISTS FOR THE WAVE CROSSING THE EAST THIS SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. LEANED ON THE MSC MEAN--CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEAN--AS A SYNOPTIC GUIDE FOR THE NATION

THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD. A TEMPORARY DIP IN THE JET OVER THE WESTERN STATES WILL HELP TO URGE THE CLOSED LOW WEST OF BAJA NORTHWARD--THE EFFECTS OF BOTH SYSTEMS PRODUCING PRECIPITATION FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TO THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS. ONCE THE ENERGY OVER THE SOUTHWEST ROCKETS EAST-NORTHEASTWARD NEXT TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY, ANOTHER OVERRUNNING EVENT OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION

IS POSSIBLE FOR PARTS OF THE DEEP SOUTH, WITH MORE SNOW POSSIBLE OVER THE PIEDMONT AND ENTIRE ATLANTIC COASTAL PLAIN NORTH OF THE CAROLINAS.

CISCO

 

Bump. Kudos to Cisco if todays model trends are correct. May end up with no more than a few flurries at this point.

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