NeffsvilleWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Holy ****, my high on Tuesday is forecast to be 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Yeah...though reading Wes's thoughts yesterday makes me wonder. He's confident of the warmup but not so much about what might come after that. He said even at 360 hours the pattern didn't look too good to him. I go around and weigh stuff that I read here and here: http://phillywx.com/forum/medium-and-long-range-discussion Wes is quite clear, he's not a longer range guy and he has no confidence past the 17th. There is certainly some question still how long the warmup lasts. One thing that has helped is the sun being out on these cold days...It just makes it seem a little warmer. Sun in the winter is a valuable commodity in our parts, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Holy ****, my high on Tuesday is forecast to be 9.Wait until you see the wind chill forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I go around and weigh stuff that I read here and here: http://phillywx.com/forum/medium-and-long-range-discussion Wes is quite clear, he's not a longer range guy and he has no confidence past the 17th. There is certainly some question still how long the warmup lasts. Sun in the winter is a valuable commodity in our parts, lol. Good point. Wes has made that known many times. Hopefully we do reload by the end of the month. Amazing temperature recovery. Already up to 21, thinking we bust on the high side today. Feels nice out today compared to yesterday. Official low at LNS was actually -4 according to Eric Horst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Holy ****, my high on Tuesday is forecast to be 9. They actually bumped it up a bit. Last night it was 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 -16 in Tioga County seems to be coldest: PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA938 AM EST SAT JAN 4 2014...LATEST 24-HOUR LOW TEMPERATURE REPORTS...A COMPILATION OF LOW TEMPERATURE REPORTS OF 0 DEGREESFAHRENHEIT OR BELOW RECORDED DURING THE PAST 24 HOURS.LOCATION TEMP TIME/DATE...PENNSYLVANIA......ADAMS...ABBOTTSTOWN -4 1015 PM 01/031 SW FAIRFIELD -2 0629 AM 01/04CASHTOWN 1S -1 0700 AM 01/04HANOVER -1 0800 AM 01/04YORK SPRINGS -1 0700 AM 01/04...BEDFORD...RAYSTOWN BR OF JUNIATA 0 0700 AM 01/04...BLAIR...2 NE ALTOONA -1 0804 AM 01/041 WNW TYRONE 0 0634 AM 01/04...CAMBRIA...GLENDALE LAKE -4 0900 AM 01/04...CAMERON...1 ESE EMPORIUM -3 1159 PM 01/032 WSW CAMERON -3 0828 AM 01/042 ESE STEVENSON DAM -1 0700 AM 01/04...CENTRE...PHILIPSBURG -6 1200 AM 01/042 SW STATE COLLEGE -4 1203 AM 01/041 ENE MILLHEIM -3 1133 PM 01/03ZION -3 1200 AM 01/042 S PHILIPSBURG -1 0700 AM 01/042 WNW PARK FOREST -1 1132 PM 01/031 ENE ROCK SPRINGS -1 1133 PM 01/032 ENE MCCALL DAM STATE PARK 0 1208 AM 01/04PARK FOREST 0 1144 PM 01/031 SSE PARK FOREST 0 1139 PM 01/03...CLEARFIELD...GRAMPIAN -4 0700 AM 01/04CLEARFIELD-LAWRENCE AIRPORT -3 1254 AM 01/04...CLINTON...LOGANTON -4 1244 AM 01/046 SW HYNER -1 0916 AM 01/031 E KETTLE CREEK STATE PARK 0 0700 AM 01/04...COLUMBIA...3 SSW NEW COLUMBUS -9 0213 AM 01/04EAST BERWICK -1 0304 AM 01/04...CUMBERLAND...1 NW MECHANICSBURG 0 0325 AM 01/04...DAUPHIN...2 WNW PENN NATIONAL RACE -6 0342 AM 01/042 E WILLIAMSTOWN -4 0309 AM 01/041 N RUTHERFORD HEIGHTS -3 0315 AM 01/044 ENE HALIFAX -2 0328 AM 01/04...ELK...1 NNW JOHNSONBURG -9 1139 PM 01/03RIDGWAY -4 1114 PM 01/033 ESE JAMES CITY -1 1000 AM 01/03...LANCASTER...1 NNE MANHEIM -7 0304 AM 01/04LANCASTER AIRPORT -4 0653 AM 01/043 NW GAP -4 0400 AM 01/04EPHRATA -3 0400 AM 01/042 NW MOUNTVILLE -3 0319 AM 01/042 WNW MILLERSVILLE -2 0701 AM 01/041 SE REAMSTOWN -2 0407 AM 01/04EAST PETERSBURG -1 0207 AM 01/042 E WILLOW STREET -1 0409 AM 01/04MILLERSVILLE 0 0700 AM 01/042 NE EAST PETERSBURG 0 0304 AM 01/042 E EAST PETERSBURG 0 0423 AM 01/041 SW ROTHSVILLE 0 0639 AM 01/042 WSW SMITHVILLE 0 0316 AM 01/04...LEBANON...2 SW LEBANON -5 0317 AM 01/042 WSW RICHLAND -4 0604 AM 01/041 SSE JONESTOWN -3 0710 AM 01/041 S FORT INDIANTOWN GAP -3 0658 AM 01/042 W LEBANON -2 1200 AM 01/041 ESE PALMYRA -2 1248 AM 01/042 E SAND HILL -1 0734 AM 01/042 WNW SAND HILL -1 0618 AM 01/041 ESE CAMPBELLTOWN 0 0613 AM 01/04LEBANON 0 0323 AM 01/041 NW CORNWALL 0 1132 PM 01/03...LYCOMING...CEDAR RUN -4 0100 AM 01/041 NNW MONTOURSVILLE -3 1235 AM 01/042 SSE ENGLISH CENTER -3 1131 PM 01/03WILLIAMSPORT RGNL AIRPORT -3 0654 AM 01/04MONTGOMERY -2 0230 AM 01/041 SW SLATE RUN 0 0930 AM 01/03...MCKEAN...1 SSE REW -12 0950 PM 01/032 SSE KINZUA BRIDGE STATE PARK -11 1030 PM 01/03BRADFORD REGIONAL AIRPORT -10 1253 AM 01/044 W BRADFORD -9 0800 AM 01/043 NNE REW -8 1023 PM 01/031 W BRADFORD -8 0949 PM 01/031 SE KANE -5 0925 AM 01/033 WSW BRADFORD -5 1014 PM 01/031 NNE KANE -3 0700 AM 01/04...MIFFLIN...NEWTON HAMILTON 0 0745 AM 01/04...MONTOUR...MECHANICSVILLE -4 0100 AM 01/04...NORTHUMBERLAND...1 ENE MILTON -5 1220 AM 01/043 NNW MOUNT CARMEL -3 1156 PM 01/03...PERRY...NEW BLOOMFIELD -3 0304 AM 01/043 ENE SHERMANSDALE -3 0309 AM 01/043 ENE LOYSVILLE -1 0304 AM 01/042 WNW LANDISBURG 0 0154 AM 01/04...POTTER...COUDERSPORT 1 SW -10 0700 AM 01/043 ESE COUDERSPORT -10 1147 PM 01/032 NE ULYSSES -7 1039 AM 01/03COUDERSPORT 7SE -4 0700 AM 01/043 SE COUDERSPORT -4 1048 PM 01/035 SSW GALETON -3 0940 AM 01/03...SCHUYLKILL...2 W ORWIGSBURG -7 0304 AM 01/04SWATARA CREEK -6 0700 AM 01/042 N MAHANOY CITY -6 0700 AM 01/041 NW SUMMIT STATION -5 0325 AM 01/04PORT CARBON -5 0315 AM 01/04POTTSVILLE -2 0304 AM 01/04FRACKVILLE -1 1213 AM 01/043 SSE SHEPPTON 0 0808 PM 01/03...SNYDER...PENN VALLEY AIRPORT -5 1253 AM 01/04BEAVER SPRINGS -3 1219 AM 01/04...SOMERSET...LAUREL SUMMIT -2 0600 AM 01/041 SW SEVEN SPRINGS -2 0914 AM 01/03BOSWELL 0 0700 AM 01/04DAM 0 0800 AM 01/041 SE SEVEN SPRINGS 0 0938 AM 01/03...SULLIVAN...LAPORTE -3 0700 AM 01/04LAPORTE -2 0739 PM 01/03...TIOGA...COWANESQUE DAM -16 0700 AM 01/04MANSFIELD -11 1133 PM 01/03TIOGA -9 0700 AM 01/041 ESE WELLSBORO -7 1213 AM 01/044 NE CEDAR RUN -4 1216 AM 01/04WELLSBORO 4 SW -3 0700 AM 01/042 NNE LEONARD HARRISON ST PK -2 1124 PM 01/03...UNION...LEWISBURG -2 0700 AM 01/04MIFFLINBURG -2 0144 AM 01/041 NW MILTON 0 0200 AM 01/04...WARREN...CHANDLER VALLEY 1SE -11 0700 AM 01/04TIDIOUTE -4 1034 PM 01/031 SE RUSSELL -3 1007 PM 01/03...YORK...YORK AIRPORT -7 0653 AM 01/04WEIGELSTOWN 0 0634 AM 01/04OBSERVATIONS ARE COLLECTED FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES WITH VARYINGEQUIPMENT AND EXPOSURE. NOT ALL DATA LISTED ARE CONSIDERED OFFICIAL.APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO ALL WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THESE REPORTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 There's a good possibility The Barrens got lower than Tioga County. I would love to know how cold it gets there Tue am and Wed am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Realized some might not know what I mean by The Barrens. It's this freaky microclimate a few miles outside State College: http://climate.met.psu.edu/features/barrens/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Realized some might not know what I mean by The Barrens. It's this freaky microclimate a few miles outside State College: http://climate.met.psu.edu/features/barrens/ I remember an episode of Weather World where they went out to the Barrens. Very cool place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I'm wondering if we get above 0 Tuesday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I'm wondering if we get above 0 Tuesday... Looks like it will be very close...northwest of here with any sort of elevation certainly looks to stay below. 12z NAM seems to imply a few tenths of an inch of precip with the frontal passage as snow...maybe a line of snow squalls? It also shows the -31C isotherm at 850mb over Indiana County...ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The 12z gfs looks nice after the 15th. It looks cold, and has several shots a getting some snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I want to set up a pws but have no good place for a tripod system (ie a Davis). Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Realized some might not know what I mean by The Barrens. It's this freaky microclimate a few miles outside State College: http://climate.met.psu.edu/features/barrens/ Are there any observations being taken there currently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Quick question, I know our forecast says 33* and rain but it's been below freezing the last 5 or 6 days and getting down to 12 tonight. Is it feasible colder surfaces freeze up even if it's a hair above freezing? Also precip. will be light so latent heat won't be an issue I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Quick question, I know our forecast says 33* and rain but it's been below freezing the last 5 or 6 days and getting down to 12 tonight. Is it feasible colder surfaces freeze up even if it's a hair above freezing? Also precip. will be light so latent heat won't be an issue I would think. I'm wondering, based on our history, if we hold onto the cold longer. Which seems to happen a fair amount. The last NAM has us getting around a quarter inch of freezing rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Quick question, I know our forecast says 33* and rain but it's been below freezing the last 5 or 6 days and getting down to 12 tonight. Is it feasible colder surfaces freeze up even if it's a hair above freezing? Also precip. will be light so latent heat won't be an issue I would think. yes, it depends on how quickly the temps warm the ground up. remember that pavement is black and it will warm up fast. I noticed my drive way has melted clear. it had a layer of snow and ice after I used my snow thrower on it. current tem is 31. ( I had to change my battery today in my remote sensor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I want to set up a pws but have no good place for a tripod system (ie a Davis). Any suggestions? check this link out. it's a weather station forum where members talk about and show their installations. http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?board=88.0 what are your mounting options? deck, roof, yard etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfox1 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Looks like I was the looser around here for low temp. Only got down to 6.9 when many around me hit closer to 0 or below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Just wow...the entire states of North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Minnesota are under Wind Chill Warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 check this link out. it's a weather station forum where members talk about and show their installations. http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?board=88.0 what are your mounting options? deck, roof, yard etc... I live in the city, so foremost have to do something that won't walk away.I have directv installed on the garage roof. The garage is about 12' away from the back of the house, area in between is all garden (and steps). Problem is it is shielded by the garage on one side, my three story house on one, and a fence. I could mount it on the eave of the garage, by the satellite. Squirrels love the roof though! (I hate squirrels and wish them all to die). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Freezing rain advisory for everyone.... most of the central and eastern part of the state are covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogan Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I live in the city, so foremost have to do something that won't walk away. I have directv installed on the garage roof. The garage is about 12' away from the back of the house, area in between is all garden (and steps). Problem is it is shielded by the garage on one side, my three story house on one, and a fence. I could mount it on the eave of the garage, by the satellite. Squirrels love the roof though! (I hate squirrels and wish them all to die). Make sure you have access to the ws without breakin your neck. I have had my Davis in operation for year now and had to clean spider webs a few times already from the tipping bucket. I highly recommend Davis. If I had it to do again I would have went with the Pro2 instead of the Vue but still am very satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Looks like I was the looser around here for low temp. Only got down to 6.9 when many around me hit closer to 0 or below. I'm what...3 miles from you? And I was nearly 10 degrees colder. And yet last evening there were spots between Maytown and Mt. Joy that were 10 degrees colder than me. It was pretty crazy driving last night and watching the car thermometer bounce back and forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Quick question, I know our forecast says 33* and rain but it's been below freezing the last 5 or 6 days and getting down to 12 tonight. Is it feasible colder surfaces freeze up even if it's a hair above freezing? Also precip. will be light so latent heat won't be an issue I would think. Oh definitely, with the snow pack and cold ground it won't be hard to ice up surfaces with an air temp that could be a degree or two above freezing. Could be a struggle to get above freezing for awhile as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Thanks Mag!! Yea I don't see a huge warm push coming tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I want to set up a pws but have no good place for a tripod system (ie a Davis). Any suggestions? Here's an excellent document about Weather Station Siting, Performance, and Data Quality. It's one of the best guides I have found and goes into rather extreme detail. It's one of the official Citizens Weather Observer Program/APRSWXNET guides. Through this program, PWS data gets fed into MADIS for use by NOAA/the NWS. If you do purchase a PWS, I highly recommend enrolling in it. It's pretty cool to know you're helping the community and it also performs quality control so you know if your data is valid or invalid. I've used the QC a bit to dial in the calibration factors on my PWS so that I know my measurements are accurate. http://www.comptus.com/PDF/CWOP_Guide.pdf Here's the link to an overview of the CWOP: http://wxqa.com/ I have a single mast at the peak of my garage with anemometer and I extended the wiring so that my thermo/hydro/bucket are all at the ideal locations. You could easily use a squirrel baffle (the type for birdfeeders) on the mast to keep them off your instruments. I second the nomination for Davis. I went with an off-brand and while mostly functional, the quality just isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfox1 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I'm what...3 miles from you? And I was nearly 10 degrees colder. And yet last evening there were spots between Maytown and Mt. Joy that were 10 degrees colder than me. It was pretty crazy driving last night and watching the car thermometer bounce back and forth. Yea were that close. I have a bowl in the field between me and the main rd about 1/3 of a mile away. I should have moved the sta to the bottom of that to see how much colder it was there with the sinking cold air. He he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfox1 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Make sure you have access to the ws without breakin your neck. I have had my Davis in operation for year now and had to clean spider webs a few times already from the tipping bucket. I highly recommend Davis. If I had it to do again I would have went with the Pro2 instead of the Vue but still am very satisfied. I have the Vue also. Great bang for the buck. And yea the rain bucket is a spiders heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Anyone have an opinion on squalls Monday along the arctic front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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