JamieOber Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Wow, seriously? Just dipped to 39F here in College Heights. Yeah. We were 8 last week when UNV was 29. Also, during the warmup, we didn't go above 50 until about 10:30 last Sunday, were 37 while UNV was 55. That's why I'm very skeptical of multi-day warmups on models for my backyard during the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I now see what you meant in your original post that I, and some others, took offense to. Thing is, when it comes to snowstorms, my wish is for EVERYONE to be able to enjoy the event. That means no tight gradients. Sure, someone somewhere is going to miss out just by virtue of their proximity to the storm, but I'd like to see everyone from I-95 to far inland Central PA cash in. Believe me, and Jamie can argue this if he wants, but there is a "painful" aspect to watching a storm bury someone nearby while you remain nearly high and dry. I've never had a problem with being on the warm side of a storm and getting rain, nor have I had a problem with southern sliders, or those ones that graze the shore. The storm that you referenced though was one that I'll remember until the day I die. I followed it on the forums, and watched the radar loops all day. The posts about it pouring snow were cool, and I figured we'd get into that as the storm got closer, but it never happened. All day long, heavy bands of snow progressed northward and just ran into a brick wall of dry air, and were eaten alive right around I-78. We ended up with very light snow that gave us about 3 inches. That in and of itself is ok, but the potential was there for much more, and I "think" we were actually forecasted to get 8-12 with that one as late as the morning it began. Good man using the quotes around painful; that tells me you don't really find it painful. I'd question anyone's backbone who would consider missing snow as painful, and by question, I mean whether they would have one. I save painful for describing real trauma. That said, I agree, its' always better when all sees snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Good man using the quotes around painful; that tells me you don't really find it painful. I'd question anyone's backbone who would consider missing snow as painful, and by question, I mean whether they would have one. I save painful for describing real trauma. That said, I agree, its' always better when all sees snow. Yup. By "painful" I mean slightly frustrating or, to use an 80's term, a bummer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Exactly. It doesn't really bother me anymore like it used to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdmgsr Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Yeah. We were 8 last week when UNV was 29. Also, during the warmup, we didn't go above 50 until about 10:30 last Sunday, were 37 while UNV was 55. That's why I'm very skeptical of multi-day warmups on models for my backyard during the winter. Sure, makes sense. Seems like there's been a lot of that on the extreme side so far this winter. Temp was steady here at 39 until about 8 AM, and has started to drop. Now at 36.3 IMBY, with the dew point now getting close to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 All wet so far in Bellefonte. I'll be keeping my eye out for flakes when the next heavier band moves in. Might take a drive up 504 towards the radar site to see what's happening up there in an hour or so. Not even a mangled flake at 2450'. Surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Light rain has transitioned to light/moderate snow at the cabin in Gaines. Elevation 2275'. Can't show pics?? Doesn't work for me but ground started to whiten back up. Nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Had snow when it was heavy but all rain now. We will see what happens when low deepens RAP has us getting below 0 850 in a couple hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Yup. By "painful" I mean slightly frustrating or, to use an 80's term, a bummer... Totally, dude. Exactly. It doesn't really bother me anymore like it used to? maturity. We were all the same way with snow as teens/early 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 35.0 -RN Maybe I'm just more numb to it nowadays as there are more pressing issues on my plate. It still sucks when you're getting <1" or something and nearby areas are breaking out yardsticks...but it is for sure not as bad as it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteout Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Trends looking bad for us lately on the 1/2-1/3 event. Looks like the northern stream vort doesn't want to dig enough and the coastal pops too far north for the majority of this forum. SNE looks to do well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Totally, dude. LOL!!! Back to the weather. Here in "the Skook", our temps have slowly risen from 34 when I woke to the present temp of 37. The rain so far as been light to occasionally moderate with 0.12" in the gauge so far. Sometimes I wish I lived in a location where I could get a current sounding so as to see what the temps upstairs are, but obviously, at my location and elevation, no snowflakes are to be found. I checked the future radar on my phone weather app, and it indicates we may see a few flakes as the precip is departing the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Trends looking bad for us lately on the 1/2-1/3 event. Looks like the northern stream vort doesn't want to dig enough and the coastal pops too far north for the majority of this forum. SNE looks to do well though. I wouldn't call it a trend yet as we're still pretty far out in time, and the models will do their usual flip-flops between now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteout Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I wouldn't call it a trend yet as we're still pretty far out in time, and the models will do their usual flip-flops between now and then. I would it's been a pretty discernible move towards less digging and a farther north secondary for quite a few runs now. That said I agree with you that there is still some time for it to move the other way but if we aren't seeing any movement by tomorrow evening when all the players should be sampled well I'd call this one dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 32.6 and rain. Not gonna lie it stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 32.6 and rain. Not gonna lie it stinks. That is one thing I don't miss about living out in State College. The 33 and rain events were just horrendous. At least here when it rains the temp usually spikes up, It's in the mid 40s here. There's still an opportunity for some snow to mix in as the low departs. Look at the precip over Ohio-hopefully some of that is snow, but probably the best chance is over high elevations-you're probably down in the valley as you're near IPT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 32.7 now in Liberty NY (1,600 feet) with rain having switched to mod snow then back and forth, though radar does not depict this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 32.6 and rain. Not gonna lie it stinks. That is one thing I don't miss about living out in State College. The 33 and rain events were just horrendous. At least here when it rains the temp usually spikes up, It's in the mid 40s here. There's still an opportunity for some snow to mix in as the low departs. Look at the precip over Ohio-hopefully some of that is snow, but probably the best chance is over high elevations-you're probably down in the valley as you're near IPT? Here's something that will boggle your mind and put things in perspective: For UNV, assuming 10-1 snow ratios, more than 60% of all Dec/Jan/Feb precip falls as....rain. Go on the climo page on CTP, take the total average precip, then the liquid equivalent of average snow assuming 10-1, divide to get the result. In DC, it's over 80%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 On the hills south of IPT about 1050 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I am visiting relatives in wellsville New York and wet snow is starting to mix in with the rain. Temp is 36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Rain and 34.8f here....temp seems to be going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Up to 38 here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Look on the bright side, y'all. If this was snow, just imagine how bad you Harrisburg/York people would be freaking out over that dry slot on radar the last hour or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Look on the bright side, y'all. If this was snow, just imagine how bad you Harrisburg/York people would be freaking out over that dry slot on radar the last hour or so. Look at those yellow echos on radar. If this was snow, it would be coming down at 274927490274937446393002834 inches per hour!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Look at those yellow echos on radar. If this was snow, it would be coming down at 274927490274937446393002834 inches per hour!! Noooooooooo jm's turning into one of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkpa25 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I am freaking out, really enjoyed this rainfall today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Finally getting some big wet icy bombs falling here now. Basically slush falling from the sky. Lovely weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Precip pulling out of the area per radar. As it stands, unless we get a heavier burst or two, I'll end up just shy of an inch. Currently 0.87 in the gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Unless something happens by 0z tonight I think we're going to have to call it quits on the 1/2-3 threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Look on the bright side, y'all. If this was snow, just imagine how bad you Harrisburg/York people would be freaking out over that dry slot on radar the last hour or so. Hey, most of us down here are pretty rational. Don't lump us in with yorkpa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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