snowstormcanuck Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Happy Anniversary one of my favorites Craptastic way to kick off a craptastic month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 One thing I'd watch out for with that second fropa late next week is the potential for a frontal wave to develop on it. None of the OP runs really doing much with it, but there's a bit of additional energy in the base of the main l/w trough that might induce some sfc development. A couple of the GEFS members at 18z were hinting at the potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Happy Anniversary one of my favorites Puke. Awful. One of my most hated storms ever. Thankfully, Feb 2007 came along not too much later and made everything alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I chased that thing to the northwest from here, and still ended up with sloppy seconds. Seriously, I hate that storm. Hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fickle Heights Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I chased that thing to the northwest from here, and still ended up with sloppy seconds. Seriously, I hate that storm. Hate. I second the hate. One of the most frustrating storms for me in recent memory, bitten by the northwest model trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Back in 2006, when cromartie liked snow: http://www.easternus...m/page__st__200 His name was "wx", and see his reply to Harry on the top that page. Also notice the "Banned" under his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Back in 2006, when cromartie liked snow: http://www.easternus...m/page__st__200 His name was "wx", and see his reply to Harry on the top that page. Also notice the "Banned" under his name. Wow, I would have never have guessed that! I had to rub my eyes to make sure I was seeing the comment "December of 2000 was awesome" correctly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I second the hate. One of the most frustrating storms for me in recent memory, bitten by the northwest model trend. I hated it too. Couldn't let it go and chased it to the western suburbs of Chicago where I took this pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxhstn74 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Take a look at this interesting article on Judah Cohen's Winter Outlook based on Siberian Snow Cover. http://weatherhistor...east-grows.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Wow, I would have never have guessed that! I had to rub my eyes to make sure I was seeing the comment "December of 2000 was awesome" correctly! It's not a matter of him being a harmless contrarian. He's not here in good faith. Always remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Ahh, Dec 1 2006, a beauty. We just missed the heaviest axis of 12"+, but still managed a bit over 10". It was the only snowstorm I can ever remember to go from not a single flake to heavy snow in less than a half hour. Even on the evening of the event it was very hard to tell how much we would get, as most models had an extreme gradient right through here. Some showed a few inches, while others showed a foot. It was a nail biter to be sure. The snow seemed to take forever to get in here. It slowly backed in from the southeast, and shortly after midnight the wall of snow slammed through. The winds had been pretty light all evening, but as soon as the snow arrived they picked up and became very gusty. Kind of weird how the winds correlated with the snowfall like that. Here's an animation I did a year or two ago from the DVN radar.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Gfs/Euro not bad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Met Winter. Go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathergy Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 While we're talking about past snow storms, while not technically all of December, some of this snow fell on the eve. I, of course missed most of it as the rain/snow line was right over me. NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 220 PM EST TUE JAN 01 2008 NEW YEARS DAY 2008 WILL GO DOWN AS NOT ONLY THE SNOWIEST NEW YEARS ON RECORD...BUT ALSO AS ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE SNOWSTORMS IN RECORDED HISTORY OVER A LARGE SECTION OF SOUTHEAST LOWER MICHIGAN. BETWEEN 12 AND 16 INCHES OF SNOW FELL IN A SWATH ORIENTED SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST ACROSS THE AREA...ROUGHLY FROM BRIGHTON IN SOUTH LIVINGSTON COUNTY TO LEXINGTON IN SOUTHEAST ST CLAIR COUNTY. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS QUICKLY TAPERED OFF BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF THIS AREA. A TIGHTLY PACKED LOW PRESSURE CENTER MOVED NORTHEAST ACROSS THE VICINITY OF DOWNTOWN DETROIT DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. HEAVY SNOW FELL TO THE WEST AND NORTH OF THIS TRACK AND FELL STEADILY AT A RATE OF NEARLY 2 INCHES PER HOUR FROM ROUGHLY MIDNIGHT TO 7AM. SNOWFALL RATES ACTUALLY APPROACHED 4 INCHES PER HOUR AT TIMES BETWEEN 4AM AND 6AM ALONG THE M59 AND I69 CORRIDORS. THERE WERE ALSO SEVERAL REPORTS OF THUNDERSNOW DURING THE SAME TIMEFRAME. THE BULK OF THE SNOWFALL...INCLUDING THE REPORTS IN EXCESS OF ONE FOOT...FELL IN LESS THAN 7 HOURS...MAKING THIS TRULY ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE SNOWS ON RECORD. THE FOLLOWING REPORTS ARE FINAL SNOWFALL TOTALS FROM THIS UNUSUALLY ROBUST AND QUICK HITTING SNOWSTORM. NEW SNOWFALL REPORTS NEW PERIOD STORM SNOW LOCATION SNOW (HRS) TOTAL DEPTH LAT LON ...LAPEER... DRYDEN 16.0 42.94N 83.12W IMLAY CITY 13.0 43.01N 83.07W ELBA 8.0 NORTH BRANCH 6.5 43.22N 83.19W ...ST CLAIR... CAPAC 16.0 43.01N 82.92W YALE 13.0 43.12N 82.79W BLAINE 12.0 RUBY 9.0 43.04N 82.60W ...SANILAC... LEXINGTON 12.3 43.26N 82.53W MARLETTE 7.5 43.32N 83.08W ...LIVINGSTON... GREGORY 12.0 BRIGHTON 12.0 42.53N 83.78W HOWELL 10.0 42.60N 83.93W ...OAKLAND... LAKE ORION 15.5 42.78N 83.24W CLARKSTON 15.5 42.73N 83.42W WHITE LAKE 13.2 42.65N 83.50W HIGHLAND 12.0 42.63N 83.61W MILFORD 12.0 42.58N 83.60W WATERFORD 11.5 42.66N 83.38W AUBURN HILLS 11.0 HOLLY 9.0 42.79N 83.62W WALLED LAKE 9.0 FARMINGTON HILLS 7.5 ...GENESEE... 5 NE OF FLINT 9.5 43.02N 83.69W GRAND BLANC 9.5 FLINT BISHOP AIRPORT 8.6 ...MACOMB... ARMADA 9.0 UTICA 6.5 42.62N 83.02W STERLING HEIGHTS 3.0 42.58N 83.03W FRASER 4.0 42.53N 82.94W EASTPOINTE 2.0 ...WASHTENAW... ANN ARBOR 10.5 WHITMORE LAKE 10.4 42.42N 83.74W CHELSEA 10.0 42.31N 84.02W MANCHESTER 6.8 42.14N 84.03W YPSILANTI 6.5 42.24N 83.62W ...WAYNE... PLYMOUTH 7.0 CANTON 7.0 NORTHVILLE 7.0 WESTLAND 5.0 42.31N 83.38W DETROIT METRO AIRPORT 4.0 DETROIT CITY 4.0 WYANDOTTE 1.7 ...LENAWEE... 2 SE OF CEMENT CITY 9.5 42.06N 84.32W TIPTON 6.0 42.01N 84.06W HUDSON 5.2 41.85N 84.34W BLISSFIELD 0.5 41.83N 83.86W ...MONROE... MILAN 3.0 42.08N 83.68W SAMARIA 0.9 43.21N 82.98W MONROE TRACE 41.91N 83.38W ...BAY... AUBURN 1.8 43.60N 84.07W ...HURON... HARBOR BEACH 5.0 43.84N 82.65W PORT HOPE 0.9 43.93N 82.71W ...SAGINAW... OAKLEY 5.0 43.14N 84.16W BRIDGEPORT 5.5 43.37N 83.88W FREELAND 2.0 43.52N 84.11W HEMLOCK 2.0 43.41N 84.23W SAGINAW 3.2 43.41N 83.94W ...SHIAWASSEE... OWOSSO 6.2 42.99N 84.17W ...TUSCOLA... FAIRGROVE 5.0 43.52N 83.54W CARO 5.0 43.48N 83.40W 2 W OF MARLETTE 7.0 && THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO MEASURE SNOW AND CONTACT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE THIS MORNING. FROM ALL OF US HERE AT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WE WOULD LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE A SAFE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlogin Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 And now this rears its ugly head .A SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVING ACROSS THE CNTRL U.S. WILL CONTINUE TO PROGRESS EWD...WITH ACCOMPANYING ASCENT MAXIMIZED OVER ITS NRN EXTENT. THE CORRESPONDING MASS RESPONSE WILL YIELD AN INFLUX OF MODEST LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE INTO THE GREAT LAKES REGION...WHERE ASCENT AT THE TERMINUS OF A LOW-LEVEL JET MAX MAY SUPPORT ISOLATED ELEVATED THUNDERSTORMS TONIGHT...ESPECIALLY LATE. VERY MARGINAL BUOYANCY PROFILES AND WEAK EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR MAGNITUDES PER FORECAST SOUNDINGS WILL MITIGATE ANY SVR POTENTIAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Nothing wrong with a few non-severe storms. At the very least it would be some rain that many areas need, albeit in an isolated to scattered nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlogin Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Nothing wrong with a few non-severe storms. At the very least it would be some rain that many areas need, albeit in an isolated to scattered nature. Didn't mean to imply there was anything wrong with non sever Thunderstorms especially in a drought, , only in how it applies to the first day of Met Winter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Didn't mean to imply there was anything wrong with non sever Thunderstorms especially in a drought, , only in how it applies to the first day of Met Winter.... Oh I know, to me though even with it being the first day of Meteorological Winter, I find the prospects of storms interesting. Sure if it were snow that would be better, but I'll take this over no weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 While we're talking about past snow storms, while not technically all of December, some of this snow fell on the eve. I, of course missed most of it as the rain/snow line was right over me. To this day I still cringe at that storm map. I still hold a grudge with the local mets about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Happy meteorological winter! 44 °F with precipitation developing off to the west, everyone can thank me for the rain today since I washed my car yesterday. Arctic Oscillation sharply negative, probably going to have some polar air rushing this way soon. Long range GFS is hinting at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 While we're talking about past snow storms, while not technically all of December, some of this snow fell on the eve. I, of course missed most of it as the rain/snow line was right over me. I felt bad for Josh after this one. That storm made for an awesome New years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 To this day I still cringe at that storm map. I still hold a grudge with the local mets about that. You and me both... All I can remember is sitting in the truck at the salt pile waiting for the big storm, ZILCH here. Even the comma shape of the radar makes me want to puke. Oh to be making these again. Can't wait !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 +PNA on the way.... bye bye west coast lows and their annoying warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxhstn74 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The Anniversary of the Snowstorm of December 1st, 1974 Back in 2000; I wrote what I called "A Tale of Two Storms" which paralleled the two biggest snowstorms (in amount) to ever hit Metro Detroit. The second storm in the article, I will never forget as I worked it during my first year as a novice with the NWS. To this day, I have yet to see a storm quite like it; as far as the magnitude it snowed and for such a long period of time! Many of you may remember it, it came at the end of Thanksgiving weekend on Sunday the 1st. Enjoy! http://weatherhistorian.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-anniversary-of-snowstorm-of.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 So far low clouds, fog and SE winds haven't allowed us to get out of the 30s today. Temps will probably continue to rise into the evening but by the time the low clouds clear out, it will be almost sunset. The torch kind of failed today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 61 here...overachieving a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc2man13 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Back in 2006, when cromartie liked snow: http://www.easternus...m/page__st__200 His name was "wx", and see his reply to Harry on the top that page. Also notice the "Banned" under his name. Wasn't he under Saukvillewx too? And didn't he like snow enough that he actually bought a snowmaking machine for his back yard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Monday is looking really warm here. Wouldn't be shocked if we touch 70 but the better bet is probably upper 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Monday is looking really warm here. Wouldn't be shocked if we touch 70 but the better bet is probably upper 60s. I mowed today. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I mowed today. Really. LAF has hit 70 in December only 4 times so it would be rare. 73 12/2/1982 72 12/6/1998 70 12/3/1982, 12/10/1971 The nearby COOP which has records back to 1901 has only done it 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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