Mr Torchey Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 As we enter into MET spring, what will this fickle month serve up to New England, can we finally have an epic March or will the lack of blocking and La Nina spell gloom and doom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Lamb or lion? I say FIYYYAAHHHH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Me thinks lots of false spring thoughts will be eradicated with the biggest storm of the season. A lion it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 in like a lamb out like a lamb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 in like a lamb out like a lamb At least you had '07-'08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 The 3rd day of March may well be among the coldest this winter. Other memorably cold 3/3? 1960. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 The 3rd day of March may well be among the coldest this winter. Other memorably cold 3/3? 1960. It's gonna happen Jerry just a matter of when. The table is set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 The 3rd day of March may well be among the coldest this winter. Other memorably cold 3/3? 1960. ??? Kinda cold, but coldest of winter? Really? (Not doubting you, but where is that from?) BOX has me getting to 2F Weds night, 21F Thurs, 4F Thurs night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 At least you had '07-'08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 It's gonna happen Jerry just a matter of when. The table is set. You know it Steve. False Spring,false prophets. We know who the seers are. CoT ftw. BTW Winter rocks!!! The skiing is great!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 ??? Kinda cold, but coldest of winter? Really? (Not doubting you, but where is that from?) BOX has me getting to 2F Weds night, 21F Thurs, 4F Thurs night Departure from average cold he means. Though I don't think we'll really challenge Jan 24th for that...that was a -22F or -23F departure day. We'd need something like 17/0 roughly to challenge it. We should get a solid -16 to -18 departure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 My friend in San Diego sent me this , said he can see it from his surfboard. Beautiful views from El Cajon and Mt Helix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Departure from average cold he means. Though I don't think we'll really challenge Jan 24th for that...that was a -22F or -23F departure day. We'd need something like 17/0 roughly to challenge it. We should get a solid -16 to -18 departure though. Ahh... makes sense... sneaky sneaky departure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 You know it Steve. False Spring,false prophets. We know who the seers are. CoT ftw. BTW Winter rocks!!! The skiing is great!!! Yeah I went to Warren Gap in VT for hiking and sledding yesterday and it was amazing...sick vistas and frighteningly fast descents down the curvy pass. Perfect day with temperatures hovering around 30F and milky clouds capping the taller peaks. Rain was basically a non-issue today as Middlebury frequently mixed with snow/ice and then dryslotted, not a surprise with a 998mb low over GFL. Departure from average cold he means. Though I don't think we'll really challenge Jan 24th for that...that was a -22F or -23F departure day. We'd need something like 17/0 roughly to challenge it. We should get a solid -16 to -18 departure though. Thursday does look really cold, and the wave behind it may give NNE some snowfall. But the cold air looks pretty transient as another lakes cutter seems to be forming...that event will all come down to how much gets ejected as one piece instead of multiple systems. Could be a variety of solutions not yet on the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Anyone thinking Windexy with the Arctic front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Anyone thinking Windexy with the Arctic front? Barry Burbank was mentioning that on Friday... not sure much has been made of that since then... FROPA FTW He's all about the FROPA: "Looking ahead, the next potent cold front and energized upper air trough will quickly approach on Wednesday. A brisk southwesterly wind will blow ahead of the front and clouds will race in to produce scattered snow showers and possible snow squalls over northern New England from late morning into the afternoon. A few of these could visit MA later in the afternoon just ahead of the frontal passage. " From Feb 27 - 8PM ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Anyone thinking Windexy with the Arctic front? RH kind of looks like crap...but we'll see if it trends better. It looks better for NNE...better windex parameters up there, but we might be able to get in on the southern extent of it if lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Anyone thinking Windexy with the Arctic front? I mentioned the possibility yesterday in the ice thread. Omega is lackluster...and RH as modeled doesn't get above 750mb. But, instability has been trending somewhat better over the past 24 hours of runs. The NAM has some flurries in ORH on Wednesday evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Will, what are you thoughts on the NAO going into March? I haven't seen any good signs of a return to blocking in the long range modeling as of yet. In order to get a nice March I think we need that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Will, what are you thoughts on the NAO going into March? I haven't seen any good signs of a return to blocking in the long range modeling as of yet. In order to get a nice March I think we need that. NAO looks to be pretty stubborn in the longer range staying either positive or quite east based if it goes negative. The Euro weeklies did return to a weaker west-based blocking regime in the Atlantic by mid March, but I'm skeptical. The weeklies did great up until the NAO went positive in mid January and since then have had some false alarms on it coming back. The lack of a -NAO may cost us in early March...but as we head later into the month the wave lengths rapidly shorten, and we'll rely less and less on it. But its really screwing the pooch for us in this weekend threat. That could have been a big one if the NAO was negative. By Mar 15th and later, it almost doesn't matter anymore. Mar 31-Apr 1, 1997 had a huge vortex over Greenland and a big trough over the PAC NW. But of course, your chances overall for snow begin decreasing rapidly too after Mar 15th, so its a catch 22 thinking like that I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 NAO looks to be pretty stubborn in the longer range staying either positive or quite east based if it goes negative. The Euro weeklies did return to a weaker west-based blocking regime in the Atlantic by mid March, but I'm skeptical. The weeklies did great up until the NAO went positive in mid January and since then have had some false alarms on it coming back. The lack of a -NAO may cost us in early March...but as we head later into the month the wave lengths rapidly shorten, and we'll rely less and less on it. But its really screwing the pooch for us in this weekend threat. That could have been a big one if the NAO was negative. By Mar 15th and later, it almost doesn't matter anymore. Mar 31-Apr 1, 1997 had a huge vortex over Greenland and a big trough over the PAC NW. But of course, your chances overall for snow begin decreasing rapidly too after Mar 15th, so its a catch 22 thinking like that I suppose. Unbelievable that the ways in which we have been screwed in March have run from end to end of the spectrum, over the course of the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 So after the copious amounts of rain that are coming next weekend I think I will give the ground a couple days to dry out and then make my first tee time of the year for the following Friday. Ya that sounds like a plan. O and def a lamb in terms of snow. Just don't have that gut feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 I think for most outside of the hills its a warm month, but very active with one KU an absolute bomb, elmers glue paste for the CP around the middle of the month, and yeah, midweek looks bitter cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Lol. People already writing March off. Another big Winter month on the way folks. This Winter isn't going out with a whimper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 Give me one storm this month, 12-20 inches of paste, and a warm month and horrible Feb (down here) is all forgotten. BDR had 4.7" of snow in Feb, pretty weak, hard to complain though when most of NE had a decent month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 Its coming into that time of year where people in locales like myself have a little different take on winter than people like WIll or Ray or Kev or Pete, understanding climo is important so that threads dont turn into complete ****e shows. I hope the hinterlands get buried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Its coming into that time of year where people in locales like myself have a little different take on winter than people like WIll or Ray or Kev or Pete, understanding climo is important so that threads dont turn into complete ****e shows. I hope the hinterlands get buried. Decent ice here at .9k...bigger ice at 1.5k...still 2 feet otg...no spring here....big winter continues, big big winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 Decent ice here at .9k...bigger ice at 1.5k...still 2 feet otg...no spring here....big winter continues, big big winter. Grass looking good here at 7ft asl, snowpiles check, shade snow check, snowcover.........naaaa so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 ??? Kinda cold, but coldest of winter? Really? (Not doubting you, but where is that from?) BOX has me getting to 2F Weds night, 21F Thurs, 4F Thurs night Kinda? The progs for Thurs are much below normal for any time of the year let alone March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 Kinda? The progs for Thurs are much below normal for any time of the year let alone March. okx going 30 for daytime high thur, will be one of the few times lately they bust high, looks bitter Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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