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34 / 25 cloudy. Continues to look overall colder to much below normal at times through mid month. Sunday strom stay mainly south and east of the area outside SNJ perhaps even to parts of Monmouth with snow showers/light snow. Perhaps the coldest day of the next 7-10 tomrroow will be sub freezing for some and then again on Monday.

Remember everyone in the main forum preaching about building snow pack up north? “The models underestimate the impact of that! We need the snowpack in Virginia!” BS.

Shoulda read, "Here we come a-wassailing OT thread" 'Wicked' was back in late October just sayn' ...heh, come to think of it, we kinda missed the opportunity last month. "Here we go a-gobbling"

To my eyes, I don't think the 12z NAM will be a rug pull.

Low of 27.1°

But still south of DC. .

looks after an off year, iowa going back to being the hot spot...

Ice free you say?? Let’s make the most of it .

Low of 26. We'll see how quickly the winds and clouds can clear tonight to go record chasing. Looks like some of our chances over the next ten days have diminished quite a bit. Still think we'll see flakes in the air at some point with all that cold hovering around. National high of 89 at Rio Grande Village, TX and low of -21 at Skibo, MN. Carry on.

Wonder if that mini supercell alley is a direct result of the gap in the mountains I-64 takes impacting the flow. As for pictures I already have my d850 charging and ready to go. I think I plan to get the class Rotunda Pic, Dell pictures, and various Garden pictures. If you have any other pretty snow picture spots on Grounds please let me know!

Will didn't vote, but I know he can only make the 13th. Let me put it this way...who plans to attend Saturday and would not be able to, or would not, do the 13th??

The 12z RAP and HRRR are relatively steady regarding the arc of snow compared to 06z. I still have my doubts about each.

Yes...the older you get, the more perceptive you are of the passage of time, but having children definitely amplifies it.

No blocking. Its all fast flow. Hudson Bay is ice free still this late for the first time ever which is also modifying the airmasses.

Yeah, I think I can be flexible. Either way too.

We should grab lunch on your way back Sunday....you will be passing right by.

Strengthening La Niña background state with the falling AAM heading into mid-December leading to the very amplified Aleutian Ridge and -PNA trough.

Anecdotally I didn’t notice any vast disparity between Cville modeled totals and reality. All I learned is that they really need a new radar there and that it’s a mini-supercell alley just to the north. Go get a snowy Rotunda pic and hike the O Hill trails. Godspeed - think ur good for 1-2”

Jesus time flies man, really started noticing when I had kids, my oldest who was a baby yesterday, is now nearly as tall as I am..

There is now a tie for the 6th and 13th, so if we feel like more can do the 13th, IDC either way.

I started in September 2006....so going on 20 years for me. I know Will and Jerry have been kicking around a couple of years longer.

I'd be careful just using a daily SOI value to assess. Not saying it isn't tanking (haven't looked lately) but those daily values can be heavily influenced by local weather phenomena and weather systems.