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That wasn’t my point. I was responding to Don’s post that the GEFS is insistent on a +EPO pattern taking hold the 2nd week of December, which it clearly is. It’s putting a huge vortex over Alaska and has been for several runs in a row

it dosent even change over rain like 30 feet from my house

Euro op runs the rain/snow line near route 202

Nah, wet snow is good to measure.

If things don't break right this year, there's always this option

Still looks like a solid snowfall. Very solid November.

Ooof. Need 5-10 miles please lol

That result has happened many times. In addition, up on top of Storm King Mountain, is an even snowier outcome. And all are within a 5 mile radius.

EURO also has a big storm wayyy out there Dec. 10 or so.

If the canal gets more than here, every single Christmas decoration is burnt.

First respectable snow within five days, it seems.

Not that last year was a banner year here (29.5") but you got so screwed im happy for you to be in the jackpot

For posterity - snows on the front and backend.

Cory should love the Euro

Trends aren't bad at all.

Gonna be interesting to see the variations in storm totals from west to east in the Detroit Metro.

And then you'll run uphill with a ruler and yell at the crew doing measurements

There is, perhaps, something else to consider in the context of that. The IPO or Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation. Being an interdecadal phenomenon, it operates on timescales of multiple decades. This complicates matters. It's easy to perceive something potentially spanning over a decade as being permanent. It also encompasses the entire Pacific basin. Whereas features such as Enso and the PDO are more geographically focused and can fluctuate within the greater framework spanning multiple decades. There's a lot to read out there on the topic. 1st image below is from the NOAA Physical Sciences Lab showing the positive phase of the IPO and associated tripole signature. Interestingly, there have been some research done suggesting links between the record 2019-20 Australian wildfires and the IPO. Perhaps enhancing a negative phase along with playing a role in our most recent triple dip la nina event. By altering cloud physics. 2nd image is what we have currently. Showing a pretty clear -IPO on going to this day. One day this will shift again. My guess is that we'll see the marine heatwaves that we hear about shift as well when that happens. +IPO: Current conditions:

Can we please reel this in? Maybe by tomorrow I’ll start to believe it a little. Maybe..

Maybe I’ll go to MQE and just sit nude in the watch tower.

It actually cools a bit during the "CCB" portion of the storm

do it for a few hours, ride the high, then come crashing back to earth at 18z.