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I just love the sunset color at this time of year!!

18z Euro also looked colder for Boxing Day. That might be one to watch. Rain to ice to snow? The low level cold is there verbatim.

@John1122atmospheric river alerts are posted for Mammoth later in the week. The webcams should be hopping.

Broken record

Yep, most would take that. Would like to see more with the varsity 00z models.

Well I think we’re in a very sensitive spot. If it shifts too far north then it’s just rain showers. If it shifts too far south then it’ll probably get shredded even more. Not sure the cards are there for us for this one

It’s the NAM, tossed.

You are right

It’s way south and juicier.

Def healthier than the previous couple runs.

0z fv3

Nam shifted north Nothing for NYC

Nam is north

I'll consider that a victory.

I'm just looking at it as as if we do get some accumulation and it lasts for Christmas. Otherwise, no big deal. Don't you have a big family? You probably have a lot more to focus on than an inch of snow, right? ( Jk )

Heck, even in December 2009 after we got 29'" of snow after the first blizzard, within a week it was a melted foggy mess and there was no snow for Christmas. I've just come to expect crap winter weather for Christmas in these parts. I even spent money to build a mountain cabin retreat with the hopes of my first white Christmas in 20yrs. Maybe next year...I'm planning on cruising around the logging roads on my '69 Honda Trail 90 next week. One Christmas not that long ago my wife and I were backpack camping at 4k ft in Dolly sods....in t-shirts. The mid Atlantic just sucks for Christmas. Might as well embrace it and buy a hot tub. Counterpoint, two Christmases ago we were camping up on our mountain property and it was -23F in the tent and the windchill was 40 below. But still no snow.

Nothing but BAD NEWS into early 2026 for Sierran ski resorts. I am very happy that I am not a ski resort owner this year. The weather in the West is so damned bizarre it's frightening, especially if you are financially invested in ski resorts in the Sierra. I have almost given up all hope. Even worse news, storms look to have torrential RAIN and extremely wet slushy snow at best thru New Years and beyond. Extreme winds will likely tear the precip apart. This is bizarre. They will probably end up shutting the winter part of the Palisades down for the 2025-2026 Season and running the resort kind of the way they run it in summer except it will be chilly. Like running gondolas and having bike races all winter, with deep mud and catastrophic landslides adding challenges. Maybe running parkour races in landslide debris. I don't think the Sierra will see even one good snowstorm with good skiable snow all winter, now. The weather systems are all screwed up. Just look at the thinning snowpack at Mammoth. It's really running thin over there, and with those conditions, they are having trouble replenishing those thin spots over time. The slush falling there now is only making worse what was already a very bad situation. All they will see is translucent slush. People will ski that crap, smash up spicy on low tide obstacles like boulders and shrubs get grievously injured then sue the ski industry right into bankruptcy. This is turning out to be a seriously bizarre winter in the West. Ok, to be honest, Palisades IS getting some snow but it is well above freezing. It will be translucent glop, useless on the slopes and its falling on bare ground, at temperatures about 38 degrees. Sound familiar, DC'ers? This stuff happens to western communities, too. At high elevations, around 9500 feet. Lucy is everywhere and she is getting deviously clever. Sometimes she doesn't yank the storm out from under you. You just have what amounts to intense snow tv, with plenty of accumulation, but the snowpack is gloppy and I don't think skiing on mashed potatoes-like snow is really all that much fun. Skiing on translucent glop and mushy potatoes snow is exhilarating. You should try this. Just stay alert. Try not to tear up your skis and your body on rocks, boulders, shrubs and ground irregularities as you slide down this messy gloppy snow slope lol. It's also kind of dirty. The ground underneath is very muddy and it kind of like gets all mixed up with the gloppy extremely wet snow. Ever since late last year, everything in America has gone straight downhill in every category. No exceptions. Poor people like me won't make it. Not a chance. Things are so bad now, that I know without a doubt, that I was far happier in 2020. I was better off in 2020 too. My personal health was also a lot better. America is now a fully ruined financial nation. Probably the only way to save it is CBDC.

I like your optimism.

I was seeing hints of a -EPO. It’s better than nothing and can work. .

All the latest extended products suggest that may be the case. Does it mean much? Probably not. The previous runs all suggested a -EPO developing by mid Jan.

LOL Stupid to call them the weeklies anymore. They should be called the dailies. Or the Euro extended, which they really are when you look at an actual map(ECMWF Ext. Ens). They haven't been a weekly product for quite awhile.

Very interesting

We took off yesterday afternoon so not always. Any snow threat always seems to do it though. I thought for sure I’d be delayed by a ton or canceled. Had a couple screams on the plane on the way out of JFK.

Weather is always the airlines excuse. It's in most cases not the weather. It's because they suck.