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Period around Jan 27-29 is the one to watch. It is a window ive been seeing for a couple days now and I noted it in the other sub. Patience will pay off. 24-25 system is N or W then pushes the boundary under us. Followup should be able to do something with cold air in place. Whether thats a weak overunning wave or an amped up thump to mix type, we will have to wait and see.

Gods we need snow.

So for what I'm reading so far, seems like everyone is on the Euro camp and trash the GFS.

Omg stop. A mod literally asked for more than quick quips and you’re arguing with someone else about it. Just post better or not at all.

Elliott Abrams kept on raising the totals every update on KYW. I almost jumped through the window in excitement....

He was born in Venezuela. Will he still be here come opening day?

This being 6 words made me laugh out loud

I’m glad you kept your pack.

New York City.

It's because that's all you do is....complain and blame mets for blown forecasts. Weather isnt just data generated and the science behind it is what the allure is for many here. You seem to want simple weather outputs that hit 100% of the time. Just not gonna happen, and you know it. Maybe you throw your weather thoughts into the ring, and we'll see how that goes. Otherwise, expect much the same.

Beautiful execution. 10/10 (or 6/6).

The Euro and the pre-12z GFS have a little vort max rounding the Ohio Valley and it "screws up" the orientation of the 500mb trough axis and delays it going negative. The 12z GFS doesn't have that. It's not crazy to think the models (even the Euro) might be overdoing that little piece of energy. Though without a big block or 50/50 low I'd be a little skeptical that the surface low hugs the coast as depicted but who knows.

BUT... @anotherman posts a lot without complaining, versus you, who seems to complain all the time. Well, not all the time. You do throw in a couple of random (i.e. "bad") observations like you did a couple of weeks ago when you posted an observation of 33 degrees when everyone, literally everyone in every direction around you was in the 20s. Even our main red tagger called you out on that. Further, you also take all of this to other forums and complain there as well. Complaining is fine as a one-off. Incessant complaining gets old really quick, and I think that's why you're "shoved to the side."

Lol yeah I can do that

I'm not complaining. It's more of a query. Why are they struggling so much?

Where are my promised low -mid 50’s today ??

Well the Euro didn't cooperate. Ukie somewhat. Icon No. Should be good skiing in the mountains both TN and NC. I've lost interest in much else. I'll be back tomorrow though.

18z now 40+ I90 will be like driving into a wall

The current GFS 12z has the look of a 5-8" snowfall in NYC region and 10-15" in eastern New England, are the Pats playing on Sunday? Very cold Friday, somewhat milder Saturday, but whatever snow would fall seems likely to stick almost from onset as temperatures plunge into deep freeze Sunday night. In fact the rest of January looks like it would average about 7-10 F below normal and that would drop the anomaly from present levels near +3 to an end result near -3 to -4. Getting a snow pack established Sunday would help to drop those anomalies too.

Thanks for your thoughts on this. For comparison, @eyewall started the 1/10-11/25 thread 4 days out and @Brick Tamlandstarted the 1/21-2/25 thread 3 days out. So, starting it tomorrow would match Brick’s timing for 1/21-2.

Like the old days! .

Maybe the Red Sox signing someone now will bring the storm back.

I think we can wait until tomorrow to start a storm thread. Until last night there really wasn’t much consensus on there even being a storm would like it to remain on models for a full day before jumping into a thread personally. There isn’t really anything else going on besides in the mountain forum so nothing would be confused with this discussion at this time

Old bones don’t hold up as well in this cold and dry regime. Need snow.

Looks like it tbh