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If that Euro solution from 0z played out…that wouldn’t be paste for us imo. But we still don’t really know which way this is going yet. I think obviously if things are really borderline..it’s a last deal to rain.

35 / 20 off a low of 28. Clear and cold but dry, winds calmer - cold day but not bad for putting the christmas lights up. Overall cold but Tue/Wed looks wet (as much discussed) Trough digigng into the east per euro deep - Gfs a bit less - but cold none the less, especially Dec 4-7.

Member when the euro products would only make small run to run moves inside day 4?

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My suspicion is that we’re about to see a flurry of activity on the models as we move into Dec. Y’all make sure you’re stocked up on coffee, those 0Z runs trickle in late

Seems a wee bit aggressive for so early in the season in light of the se'ly flow.

Eyeballing from the window it looks to be pushing 3" so far. Still 15+ hours to go of more snow. Best rates and flake size should be with the grand finale wave later this afternoon. Should hopefully stack up pretty good with that. 8-12 still looks doable.

I thought most areas would be paste if all snow ?

Heh, at least it’s something legit to track, and we have some interesting weather upcoming…that’s a win this early, and a change from the last few years. I’ll take this.

Let’s get George 6” and you a coating

About to head back to Montana and we finally had our first snow in Billings, overperformer and ended up with 8” or so when they were calling for 4-5”. Been nice to have some cold these past few days here in the foothills at my parents, prepping me for heading back to the first cold snap of the year out there!

4.2" here as of 7:15am. The heaviest snow so far, with good-quality flakes, just popped over us. The winners so far have been Fort Dodge to Waterloo, where 8" has fallen. Southern Iowa has been stuck in a big dry pocket this morning, which models did not forecast. My ratio so far is 11.3 to 1, so not bad. The wind is not bad, so the snow in my backyard is very uniform, which I love.

Woo snow

Goofus actually has another somewhat strong s/w behind the main one. Maybe acting a bit as a kicker to speed it up?

The euro and Canadian are interesting here. It’s close. Obviously if anything close to the gfs verifies we are cooked, but could see some accumulation here depending on which model is right

Good visual, thanks. And this is what we see most times, when we follow a potential from a week out…something always shows up as we close in(a scooter shit streak, another little piece of energy, etc…) to change the scenario just enough, that wasn’t seen from afar. It’s to be expected when following something that is far out in time.

GFS has been quick to take that s/w and push it further north over upper Midwest while euro is a bit slower and has s/w further south.

Rates will matter for sure where it’s borderline.

Upton AFD: LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... Key Points: * Low pressure may bring the first bout of winter weather to the area Tuesday into Tuesday night. There remains uncertainty in the low track, which will be critical in determining precipitation type. At this time, it looks like mainly rain at the coast with rain/snow line somewhere over the interior. * Below normal temperatures through next Friday. NBM closely followed during this timeframe. The focus for this forecast period will remain on a potential coastal low bringing wintry weather to the region Tuesday into Tuesday night. Global models have trended farther NW with the low track the last 24h, with many of the 12Z operationals just inside the 40N...70W benchmark. The EPS/GEFS mean are farther SE, deeper, and more clustered around the mean, but there are also more members to the NW of the mean than recent days. While the Pac energy associated with this southern branch storm system is about to come onshore western Canada, there will likely be some run to run changes that are often critical to precipitation type across the area. In addition, with no blocking over the north Atlantic, high pressure quickly lifts out of the Northeast as the storm approaches, allowing for more of a marine influence and erosion of the cold air. This is why it is too difficult this far out to mention snowfall totals. What does appear to be more certain though is for a strong coastal low to impact the region. The forecast is more reflective of a consenus forecast. Such a track favors a mainly rain event at the coast, with a rain/snow line working inland. Inland locations have the best chance of seeing winter weather impacts at this time. NBM probabilities for greater than inch of snowfall range from 10-25 percent at the coast and 40- 70 percent inland. For an advisory level snow, these probabilities are 0-10 percent and 20-40 percent, respectively. High pressure will primarily in control for the second half of the week, minus a cold frontal passage on Thursday.

Kinda need a deep system to get the rates. More of a thread the needle situation, but still super early here to expect anything.

If the euro is right, I could see one of those deals where Brett maybe flips to some paste while it struggles here. Simply from being away from the warmer water. I don’t expect much of anything here, I was hoping maybe some tail end stuff. That 95 corridor in interior SE MA looks interesting.

0.5” here in Lake Forest. About as expected thus far!

Here’s what I was eyeing from the 6z run out west

Concerning messaging coming from Northern Indiana Office. They almost lost half their WSW... At this time have made only minor adjustments to forecasted snow amounts through tonight, with just a slightly lower trend in most places. Highest accumulations of 6 to 10 inches through 12Z Sunday are still forecasted for northwest third of the area where some cross- hair signature of mid level lift/DGZ is noted in forecast time/height sections. Some consideration given to transitioning the warning to an advisory south of US Route 24 across far northeast Indiana/northwest Ohio but will allow dayshift to assess trends this morning.

Thanks for putting my earlier comment into a more detailed response.