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The RMM charts are misleading sometimes. The mjo may have been in phase 8 for a little while. I hope it don't stay there for too long in warmer phases and we get what we need to see to get a better pattern after the warm up.

Low of 22. Liking the potential for Saturday night. December looking like it could be a tale of two halves.

Have to be appreciative of the fact 17-18" is in the bank before Xmas. Two substantial events; one 6-10" and another 4-7". As stated above we broke the streak of horrid Decembers. Hopefully January and February present some windows to get above 30-35" for seasonal totals. Been tough to break 25" lately.

Hey brother long time. Remember when we stole Kocin and Uccelinni badges at the GTG in DC. Lol That was my favorite conference

Awesome

Picked up another half inch overnight. Flurries and 24 currently. Decent sunrise this morning! Sent from my Pixel 10 Pro using Tapatalk

Hoping for Doug flutie at 12z, even if it just locks in enough to cover the grass

90% of my annual snow occurs after Dec 21st. The urge down here to rush snow is undoubtedly understandable with all the cold. I feel for those that are emotionally invested.

The 4 inch threshold is just a historical marker. Much like accumulating snow before the middle of November leads to a BN total snowfall winter. You won’t find a scientific reason for it. It’s an observation on historical data that you can make a casual correlation with. And the casual correlation that a poster like blue wave has made is that in La Niña winters if we don’t get over 4 inches of snow in December you can expect a below normal snowfall winter. Now, if you wanted to dive deeper into that you could say La Niña shoots its load during December and if not much comes from that, that usually is a good indication that January and February arent going to be much better. That’s more scientific because La Niña is frontloaded for the month of December. But the reality is, these are just historical markers and you can choose to dismiss them as you wish. But better to have a flash light for possible clues then go into January blind expecting an equal chance. Historical data says otherwise.

1.5" here this Morning. Some melting underneath so may have been a bit more. It stopped for several hours last night before a period more this morning. KMRX is requesting Reports. Please send them in.

Patriots snow game?

And he just hops into threads when he can pretend that he knows more than everybody else and point out bad outcomes. He’s just projecting his own sense of being less than onto other people. Which is a shame because he clearly has a lot of knowledge which he could choose to use differently. no change.

That event went just south of the NYC to LGA corridor so the lack of a 4” daily measurement in those locations made sense since it was such a narrow band.

Oh I can shrug it off because I will never allow weather to impact my life in the way it does to some other people here..

What else is new!?

They have been posted extensively here which is more than I can say about your data.

Kev please please remember my 2015 posts. I am totally satiated and whatever came after that is just a bonus. Snow is cool but seen enough in this life to be happy. If 2015 never happened I would be seeking the holy grail. But alas I also know my climo and winter has a long long way to go.

It does, but I find the older I get the easier (far easier) it is to dismiss. And we were lucky on the Dec 2nd storm. Hopefully your area can wring something out of this weekend whatever it is system

This is the 4th time we’ve seen a TR of frozen this winter. Maybe that bodes well?

Records: Highs: EWR: 68 (1931) NYC: 68 (1931) LGA: 66 (2015) JFK: 64 (2015) Lows: EWR: 6 (1988) NYC: 5 (1988) LGA: 8 (1988) JFK: 7 (1988) Historical: 1882 - Portland, OR, was drenched with 7.66 inches of rain, a record 24 hour total for that location. (12th-13th) (The Weather Channel) 1917: Dec. 12-13, Richmond had 8.0 inches on the 12th followed by 1.4 inches on the 13th and 1.0 inches on the 14th for a total of 10.4 inches of snow. The snow cover from this storm lasted for more than a week an after another, smaller snowstorm near Christmas, temperatures plunged to the lowest levels ever recorded in December. On Dec. 30, Richmond woke up to a low of -2°F. 1960 - The first of three Middle Atlantic snowstorms produced a foot of snow at Baltimore MD. A pre-winter blizzard struck the northeastern U.S. producing wind gusts as high as 51 mph, along with 16 inches of snow at Nantucket MA, and 20 inches at Newark NJ. (David Ludlum) 1960: On December 12th 13.0 inches of snow fell over the Boston, Massachusetts area. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events) Washington, DC. received 8.5 inches of snow from this storm.(Ref. Wilson Wx. Additional information) 1967: December 12th - 20th Flagstaff, Arizona: A series of snow storms buries Flagstaff with 86.0 inches of snow.(Ref. WxDoctor) 1967: New Mexico was bombarded by 11 days of heavy snow beginning on this date. Food had to be airlifted in to some areas. The Reservations of the Native Americans were especially hard hit. Flagstaff, AZ was buried under 86 inches of snow. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) 1969 - The worst tornado of record for western Washington State tracked south of Seattle, traveling five miles, from Des Moines to Kent. The tornado, 50 to 200 yards in width, began as a waterspout over Puget Sound. One person was injured and the tornado caused half a million dollars damage. (The Weather Channel) 1982: 6.6 inches of snowfall was greatest single December snowfall since 1973. The New England Patriots defeated the Miami Dolphins in driving snow at Foxboro, MA. With snow covering the field and New England in position to kick a game winning field goal, New England Head Coach Ron Meyer ordered the path to be cleared for the field goal attempt. The move was against the rules, but no one stopped him. Place kicker John Smith made the kick and the Patriots won the game 3-0. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1987 - While a developing winter storm began to spread snow across New Mexico into Colorado, high winds ushered unseasonably cold air into the southwestern states. Winds in California gusted to 60 mph in the Sacramento River Delta, and in the San Bernardino Valley. (The National Weather Summary) 1988 - Cold arctic air spread from the Great Lakes Region to the Appalachian Region. Twenty-five cities, mostly in the northeastern U.S., reported record low temperatures for the date. The low of 12 degrees below zero at Albany NY was their coldest reading of record for so early in the season. Saranac Lake NY was the cold spot in the nation with a low of 28 degrees below zero. (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - A winter storm produced snow from northern Mississippi to the Middle Atlantic Coast, with 10.5 inches reported at Powhatan VA. Heavy snow whitened the Black Hills of South Dakota, with 36 inches reported at Deer Mountain. Thirteen cities in the north central U.S., from Minnesota to Texas, reported record low temperatures for the date, including Duluth MN and Yankton SD with morning lows of 22 degrees below zero. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1995 - A severe coastal storm is blamed for five deaths and loss of power to over one million people in Oregon and Washington. Winds at Sea Lion Caves near Florence topped out at 119 mph before problems developed with the anemometer. In Newport, a gust of 107 mph occurred downtown, while Astoria and Cape Blanco also had gusts of over 100 mph. Astoria's air pressure dropped as low as 28.53 inches, an all-time record (and comparable to the central pressure of a Category 2 hurricane!). Gusts in the Willamette Valley exceeded 60 mph. 1995: An intense ocean storm at 28.11 inches of mercury battered the West Coast. In Oregon, wind gusts hit 119 mph at Florence, 112 mph at Cannon Beach and 107 mph at Newport. Northern and central California was hit very hard. Wind gusts reached 103 mph at Angel Island, 85 mph at Redding and 74 mph at San Francisco. Three people were killed by falling trees. The San Francisco Conservatory sustained $10 million dollars in damages due to structural failure, broken windows and destroyed plants. Three Peaks was deluged with 21.22 inches of rain. Other heavy totals included 12.27 inches at the Marin Civic Center, 10.64 inches at Blue Canyon and 5.01 inches at San Francisco. Oakland was soaked with 2.66 inches in just 45 minutes. Nearly 2 million people were without power at one time. Seattle, WA and Astoria, OR recorded their lowest pressures on record with 970.2 (28.65 inches of mercury) and 966.1 millibars (28.53 inches of mercury) respectively. This storm was the worst to strike the region in 16 years. Six people lost their lives. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) A 5-day lake effect snowstorm came to an end at Sault Ste Marie, MI over which time 61.7 inches of snow fell, by far the city's biggest snowstorm on record. 27.8 inches fell in 24 hours on the 9th and 10th establishing their all-time 24 hour snowfall record. The snow depth reached 50 inches at one point, tying the record. The storm brought the monthly total to 82.5 inches, the city's greatest monthly snowfall ever. International Falls, MN set a record low with -39 °F. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 2008 - A significant ice storm wreaked havoc across New York and New England on December 12, disrupting electricity and leaving over 1 million homes and businesses without power. New Hampshire alone had as many as 320,000 residents without power, which according to reports it was described as the worst outages in 30 years (Reuters). Four fatalities were reported and parts of Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, and Maine declared a state of emergency (BBC News).

Well, he did just get a coaching job again

Asking you about your methodologies and whether they actually make sense meteorologically or whether it's an overfitting of observational data is stirring up controversy now?

Yeah, that one is absolutely ridiculous because they were two instances in February 2024 we’re almost every single surrounding place recorded at least 4 inches of snow, including JFK, which received around 8 inches of snow in that surprise snow band that’s set up in mid February 2024. However, the snowstorm that was earlier that month had all places around Central Park receiving at least 5 inches of snow and somehow Central Park just below 4 inches. Even last year around the MLK day snow event, all other recording sites and most areas nearby were able to just reach 4 inches if I’m not mistaken. Somehow Central Park always comes up short

You seem to dip into these threads to try to stir up controversy and add snarky comments rather than add to value to the ongoing discussions.

That is the biggest crock of BS and you know it. The king of ACATT and winter Poetry . It has bothered you immensely