vortex95 Posted Thursday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:24 PM 15 hours ago, wxmeddler said: I maintain that SVR-Considerable with Tor Possible wording would have sufficed. 65 mph EF-0 is only 5 mph over base SVR. I don't believe there was any threat beyond a QLCS spinup of what we saw, and that took the open water and maybe a boundary to make it happen. Yes, the ""tor psbl" tag gives a lot more leeway yet covers the threat just the same. It is a good "in-between" and works b/c now we know there are so many little spin-ups in SQLN situations. Some are very transient, but still can do damage. Then you have gustnadoes w/ can be up to EF1 strength, but do not count as tornadoes unless they connect to the cloud base, which often not easy to determine in the more moist environment and less visibility compared to the Plains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted Thursday at 04:40 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 04:40 PM Sunday still looks like it has a chance. Maybe next Thursday too? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM CSU MLP has a decent area of 5+% TOR for Sunday. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted yesterday at 07:17 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:17 PM 4 hours ago, Kmlwx said: CSU MLP has a decent area of 5+% TOR for Sunday. Can you provide a link to the CSU MLP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George BM Posted yesterday at 07:52 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:52 PM 34 minutes ago, vortex95 said: Can you provide a link to the CSU MLP? https://schumacher.atmos.colostate.edu/hilla/csu_mlp/csu_severe.php 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted yesterday at 09:35 PM Share Posted yesterday at 09:35 PM That storm in cvill is tor warned and seemingly has a debris ball on radar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago Oh ok 499 NWUS51 KLWX 142303 LSRLWX Preliminary Local Storm Report National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC 703 PM EDT Fri Aug 14 2026 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0541 PM Hail 2 E Charlottesville 38.04N 78.44W 08/14/2026 M2.50 inch Albemarle VA Local Official Also reports of hail damage to vehicles at the same location. && Event Number LWX2608205 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 8 hours ago, Kmlwx said: CSU MLP has a decent area of 5+% TOR for Sunday. LWX seems to be hitting the threat a bit harder in this afternoon AFD DISCUSSION... KEY MESSAGE 1...Severe thunderstorms and some instances of flash flooding are possible on Sunday. Some residual convective activity may be ongoing on Sunday morning. This remains to be seen and will be guided by the degree of overnight instability and boundary placement. How the atmosphere recovers through the day should ultimately dictate the degree of severe thunderstorm threat during the core diurnal heating hours. The ingredients are certainly present for a more impactful event if meteorological parameters all come together. Looking a bit more closely at this event, a broad mid/upper ridge persist across the Four Corners eastward to the southwestern Atlantic. Amplified flow north of this expansive anticyclone will continue to be a conduit to active convection, many in the form of mesoscale convective systems (MCS). As mentioned above, a remnant MCS might still be ongoing early Sunday across the region. While above average heights persist, expect some non-zero height falls to cross the area in response to an approaching shortwave. Within this northwesterly flow aloft, vertical shear is ample for the time of year, generally around 30 to 35 knots. Depending on model choice, mixed-layer CAPE values approach 1,500 to 2,500 J/kg. The combination of these two will easily support a risk of severe weather. While damaging wind gusts are the most likely threat, other severe types loom if storms can remain discrete in nature. Additionally, a Slight Risk for excessive rainfall continues along much of the Alleghenies eastward along/north of I-66/U.S. 50. Precipitable water values rise markedly, possibly into the 2 to 2.25 inch range. While a single thunderstorm will be capable of torrential downpours, the bigger threat would be for repeat and/or training convection. The latter potential exists which supports the flash flood risk. Although drought continues over much of the region, many areas have seen a one category improvement over the past week. Convection will likely be ongoing into Sunday night with the cold front not passing through until early Monday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 10 hours ago, yoda said: LWX seems to be hitting the threat a bit harder in this afternoon AFD There are things to like for Sunday for sure, but a morning MCS appears fairly likely, which would wreck afternoon chances, except perhaps for southern areas. Probably more of a heavy rain event for most of us, unless the MCS is fake or delayed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, high risk said: There are things to like for Sunday for sure, but a morning MCS appears fairly likely, which would wreck afternoon chances, except perhaps for southern areas. Probably more of a heavy rain event for most of us, unless the MCS is fake or delayed. Understood, but seems LWX disagrees in their morning AFD? Or am I misreading? In addition to any heavy rain threat is the potential for bands of strong to severe thunderstorms. Increased flow down into the low levels would be favorable for organized line segments capable of mixing down damaging wind gusts in any organizing cold pools. The saturated profiles could result in water loading downdrafts, though the lack of mid-level dry air may keep DCAPE low putting a ceiling on just how high damaging wind gusts can get (most likely in the 50-65 mph range). The increased low- level flow and SRH coupled with moist profiles could lend to the threat of a few tornadoes as well. Although the prospect of early morning clouds and precip may at first glance seem to preclude a higher potential for heating and severe weather later in the day, the high low-level moisture content coupled with steady height falls aloft means that heating will not need to be as robust to result in sufficient CAPE for strong to severe convection, especially given the shear that will be present. Some severe weather or flood threat may persist into the night given the above listed factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago More recent guidance leaning toward morning rain, perhaps a brief break early afternoon, and then more storms later in the afternoon and evening. Juicy precip totals. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I don't think the AM convection Sunday will be a detriment for later. There is solid support for the aftn-eve w/ a 700/500 trof moving in. PWATs increase in the aftn to as high 2.5" on the GFS/ECMWF/NAM, and there is very good directional shear w/ nicely looped hodographs and strong veering 925/850 to 700/500. Wind fields 925-500 ramp up in the aftn to 35-40 kt at all these levels. So supercells likely and the 2% tor risk is warranted. Could see upgraded to 5% given the strength of the 925 winds (30 kt+ is excellent and we have it fcst as high as 40 kt). Everything moves steadily W to E, unlike the previous events that were NW to SE and that pushed all the moisture and boundary focus S, so solid recovery for instability after the AM convection is a good bet. FF threat, as noted, is there are well. RRFS is quite aggressive for cntrl and nrn VA showing up to 7.5" of rain. This model tends to overdo things, but 4" in some locations high prob IMHO. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, vortex95 said: I don't think the AM convection Sunday will be a detriment for later. There is solid support for the aftn-eve w/ a 700/500 trof moving in. PWATs increase in the aftn to as high 2.5" on the GFS/ECMWF/NAM, and there is very good directional shear w/ nicely looped hodographs and strong veering 925/850 to 700/500. Wind fields 925-500 ramp up in the aftn to 35-40 kt at all these levels. So supercells likely and the 2% tor risk is warranted. Could see upgraded to 5% given the strength of the 925 winds (30 kt+ is excellent and we have it fcst as high as 40 kt). Everything moves steadily W to E, unlike the previous events that were NW to SE and that pushed all the moisture and boundary focus S, so solid recovery for instability after the AM convection is a good bet. FF threat, as noted, is there are well. RRFS is quite aggressive for cntrl and nrn VA showing up to 7.5" of rain. This model tends to overdo things, but 4" in some locations high prob IMHO. 12z HRRR had a general 1" - 2" regionwide, with a narrow strip of 3" - 4" near Laurel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 18z HRRR lights up NOVA with 3" - 5" of rain tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: 18z HRRR lights up NOVA with 3" - 5" of rain tomorrow 18z RRFS is the same. Both models show more than one wave of storms after the AM convection. I like the significant sfc dew point advection tomorrow aftn over the region 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanbrad Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago On 8/14/2026 at 10:25 AM, Kmlwx said: CSU MLP has a decent area of 5+% TOR for Sunday. As of this morning's output, they seem to be holding onto the 5-10% TOR for our area tomorrow... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1030pm last night. Dang! Ton of CGs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago 37 minutes ago, vortex95 said: 18z RRFS is the same. Both models show more than one wave of storms after the AM convection. I like the significant sfc dew point advection tomorrow aftn over the region That's a recipe for someone to get soaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted 52 minutes ago Share Posted 52 minutes ago The Canadian tries to paint a 2" - 3.5" stripe of rainfall right along Mason-Dixon tomorrow afternoon. South of I-70 is less than an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted 46 minutes ago Share Posted 46 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: That's a recipe for someone to get soaked. And it shows solid destabilization despite lots of clouds. You can do a lot more for CAPE by adding to the dew point than temp per deg. GFS has DCA 69 dew point at 15z up to 74 by 00z. Also it backs the sfc winds to SSE. This is w/ WNW winds at 500 so that's over 90 deg veering sfc-500. That should mean robust supercells. Speed shear is common here but good directional shear is not so this may be a best tor risk of the year so far Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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