Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, John1122 said: I never imagined getting 24 inches of snow modeled and being on the low end of accumulation in the area. Speaking of Mammoth... the hurricane hunters flight planned mentioned........ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 The GFS entirely avoided freezing rain in Chattanooga. They did get half a foot of sleet with their snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Those few hours of 700 mb and 850 mb at/above freezing, but only by a degree or so, spells sleet not freezing rain. Partial thickness charts also show the shenanigans. Fine line between staying sleet, and a half inch of freezing rain. I wonder how amped the NAM will be when it comes in range. Prolly Quebec us. Let's hope the Euro trends colder for snow. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 No way 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgjeff Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Easy to post clickbait out of market. They'd be held accountable in market. Though speaking of model consistency, there was a storm a long time ago modeled a week out.. Even with those much less advanced weather models. March 1993. Let's NOT do that again though, and hell no to the ice version! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatheriscool Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, Matthew70 said: No way This system would be bad enough if it were going to melt in a couple days but to be around the better part of next week is really really going to be a issue; wonder how much rock salt TDOT has lol? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 This storm just keeps reminding me of Feb 2nd 1996. It even had that area of extra heavy snow in the central valley of East Tennessee, and was a massive sleet event in Chattanooga. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Looks like the GEFS upped .qpf, but strengthened the HP and kept 850 temps relatively similar: Actually having zoomed in, there is a bit of a northward tick with 850s: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Easy to post clickbait out of market. They'd be held accountable in market. Though speaking of model consistency, there was a storm a long time ago modeled a week out.. Even with those much less advanced weather models. March 1993. Let's NOT do that again though, and hell no to the ice version!That's what I've been reminding myself that even if this ends up with these crazy totals of snow, we don't have the winds that came with 93. That's at least a consolation. I remember hearing that wind roar in the middle of the night during the 93 storm it was like a hurricane.Sent from my Pixel 10 Pro XL using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Weatheriscool said: This system would be bad enough if it were going to melt in a couple days but to be around the better part of next week is really really going to be a issue; wonder how much rock salt TDOT has lol? Honestly, I would not be surprised if they had to bring in more 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwolf1972 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 The amounts did go up between 12z and 18z gefs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatheriscool Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Matthew70 said: Honestly, I would not be surprised if they had to bring in more This is just insanity, I keep thinking one of us on here prayed way too hard for snow! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I will be happy with half of that. I don’t believe that will get over a foot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 The GEFS is going to mirror the qpf of the op, but is a little warmer and likely has more mixing issues on some of the members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I take that back about the GEFS, it's going to probably approach a 10 inch snow depth down to the Georgia line. Not sure if it's blending sleet in or not though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellicoWx Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 This is what has me the most worried...major power failure across the south and then this behind it. Wind chill values 18z GFS. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountainguy97 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 It's pretty apparent a lot of us will mix. I don't think it'll be as severe as the CMC but I highly doubt we see the gfs slider as a final result. The energy flying around from the Baja will "kink" the flow enough to give us a NE tilt vs the flat look. Gfs has been all over the place and its ensemble doesn't match it very well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, TellicoWx said: This is what has me the most worried...major power failure across the south and then this behind it. Wind chill values 18z GFS. Was just coming to comment on this. Those are all-time record lows on that map.. We rarely ever see that extreme on modeling, and have seen -10s occur about once a decade...mid 80s, early mid90s, mid-late 2010s.....I think we would have to have deep snowpack to get there. But the overall setup on modeling (HL and EPO block) would support very cold temps if we get snow on the ground. While the GFS run is over cooked, its low temps do have some support across modeling. I cannot imagine those temps w/ the power out or no alternate source of heat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I see Reynolds on WJHL is apparently showing the 12Z GFS forecasted Totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKinLenoirCity Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I’ve been trying to keep up with the info here on the models. I live right around the 40/75 split…can someone give a best guess on what we will see? Weather channel lowered our snow to 3-5 inches. While that would be great, I was anticipating more out of this system. Can anybody simplify what is really expected? And what do we need to increase our snow forecast for this storm? Thanks!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Don't have a whole lot of frames yet, but it looks like Euro AIFS has ticked back north a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie16 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I’ve been trying to keep up with the info here on the models. I live right around the 40/75 split…can someone give a best guess on what we will see? Weather channel lowered our snow to 3-5 inches. While that would be great, I was anticipating more out of this system. Can anybody simplify what is really expected? And what do we need to increase our snow forecast for this storm? Thanks!.Nobody knows what the exact totals will be. The max is a lot of snow and the minimum is an ice storm. Weather channel uses the NBM along with their own recipe for the apps. It’s not to be trusted.We need it to trend a tick or two further south. Right now we’re in a flux between Short range and Long range models. Tomorrow night we will have the best idea on what will occur. IMO. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 AI Euro was definitely north with more mixing issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie16 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Don't have a whole lot of frames yet, but it looks like Euro AIFS has ticked back north a bit. It’s colder at 66. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 best image I have now, but the 850s have gone north by a county or so: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwolf1972 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 It warms to 30 for a high in valley then 2 hrs later quickly drops to 20s on aifs euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Easier to see the LP trying to sneak up Highway 411 here: 18z-------------------------------------------------------------> 12z 850s: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 It runs a tongue of mixing issues up the edge of the Apps, and into southern valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math/Met Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, Holston_River_Rambler said: Easier to see the LP trying to sneak up Highway 411 here: 18z-------------------------------------------------------------> 12z 850s: Definitely not what I wanted to see. Hopefully we can trend back the other way with time, but we've definitely seen this play out like that several times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Tomer Burg now has made a snow anxiety index (sarcasm on my part) available. This is a gif of the 12z EPS run Here is his explanation of what it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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