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Mid-Long Range Discussion 2026


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1 hour ago, eyewall said:

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I’m biased but I’m not sure there are many places in the country that have gotten the shaft over 4-5 straight winters the way that region from NE Ga into the Upstate and foothills has. Especially considering there are many locations in there that had never recorded a winter without snow until going multiple years without, a streak finally broken by a few inches of wet wintry mix last year. I mean I live at around 2000 feet in the north Ga mountains, yet Albany GA has more snow than me over a 4 year stretch. Unfathomable…. We are due a win. 

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38 minutes ago, BornAgain13 said:

Fwiw, Eric Webb says he thinks this becomes an overrunning event. Said its January 2014 like...

Last night I was thinking the setup reminded me of January 28 2014. I’d happily take that. If it wants to go ahead and repeat February of 2014 as well I might just cry tears of joy lol

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17 minutes ago, SnowDawg said:

Last night I was thinking the setup reminded me of January 28 2014. I’d happily take that. If it wants to go ahead and repeat February of 2014 as well I might just cry tears of joy lol

 I remember 1/28/14 originally per models out ~5 days looking to nail coastal areas like mine with a wintry mess and then doing the typical trending NW and reducing coastal area wintry precip. to a lot lower than models had had to a minor event here.

Comparisons of indices for 1/28-9/2014 to progged 1/18/26:

Index…2014….2026

MJO…...6……….….6
PNA….weak +….mod/strong +
EPO….strong -….very strong -
WPO…neutral……….-
NAO….weak +…neutral to weak +
AO…..strong -…..mod -

 So, for those of you who want the NW trend to continue and end up similarly to 2014 (not me obviously), the indices line up pretty similarly to 1/28-9/2014 unfortunately for us deep SE folks and fortunately for ATL-RDU and further NW. The main differences though this time are a stronger +PNA and -EPO (i.e., more impressive W NA ridge) and a -WPO vs neutral then. I don’t know whether or not that would change things much vs the 2014 trend.

 Now I’ll show how much stronger the W ridge/E trough couplet is this time vs 2014:

1/28/14 12Z H5 had 564 Washington/Canadian border and 559 Atlanta:

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1/18/26 12Z H5 prog 576 Wash/Can border and 546 Atlanta meaning a much more impressive and sharper W ridge/E couplet this time:

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Just now, CheoahBald1 said:


Are you getting excited yet or do we wait on the king?


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Anytime a major model shows 4-6 inches less than 5 days out it's hard to not get a little excited. The Euro getting on board would have me giddy

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9 minutes ago, GaWx said:

 I remember 1/28/14 originally per models out ~5 days looking to nail coastal areas like mine with a wintry mess and then doing the typical trending NW and reducing coastal area wintry precip. to a lot lower than models had had to a minor event here.

Comparisons of indices for 1/28-9/2014 to progged 1/18/26:

Index…2014….2026

MJO…...6……….….6
PNA….weak +….mod/strong +
EPO….strong -….very strong -
WPO…neutral……….-
NAO….weak +…neutral to weak +
AO…..strong -…..mod -

 So, for those of you who want the NW trend to continue and end up similarly to 2014 (not me obviously), the indices line up pretty similarly to 1/28-8/2014 unfortunately for us deep SE folks and fortunately for ATL-RDU and further NW. The main differences though this time are a stronger +PNA and -EPO (i.e., more impressive W NA ridge) and a -WPO vs neutral then. I don’t know whether or not that would change things much vs the 2014 trend.

 Now I’ll show how much stronger the W ridge/E trough couplet is this time vs 2014:

1/28/14 12Z H5 had 564 Washington/Canadian border and 559 Atlanta:

IMG_7080.gif.fd18b44b1e58588faed36bab6c242fe6.gif
 

1/18/26 12Z H5 prog 576 Wash/Can border and 546 Atlanta meaning a much more impressive and sharper W ridge/E couplet this time:

IMG_7083.thumb.png.3a9541222690bdb968409e44884dda19.png

Great info, thanks. I’ll say, I hate feeling like I’m pulling against you guys down south and east cause I know historically speaking you guys get chances way less than we do. But it’s been such a bad stretch up here that I almost need the atmosphere to prove to me that it can still do it for my sanity.

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Just now, stormwatcherJ said:

Right? I thought this earlier... with 4-5 days to go, this thing could NW trend all the way to WV/Kentucky! 

Don't think so with all this arctic air to the north pressing down

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Just now, BooneWX said:

What are your thoughts on how this shake’s out? Always appreciate your insights 

Right now I think it is very plausible we see something out of this but I will caution that the warm nose almost always overpeforms and makes it farther inland than modeled. The pattern looks like it will be there but as always we live and die by the warm nose. 

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