dendrite Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 17 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: We’ve had a few NW flow deals that I can recall that really did some damage. There was one I think in Nov 2004. Heck in Jan this year we had one after fropa that did damage here. The first one you mentioned was over 20 years ago. I think you kinda proved my point. I want to say there was a good one in early 06 too…Feb maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 24 minutes ago, dendrite said: The first one you mentioned was over 20 years ago. I think you kinda proved my point. I want to say there was a good one in early 06 too…Feb maybe? We've had more, just noting that particular one. But I typically yawn at anything under 60. Give me 70+. Kind of tough here to top Oct 2021 for wind. That was NE not NW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 7 hours ago Author Share Posted 7 hours ago It's still going to get quite windy tonight and there is still the risk of localized wind damage if an organized convective line can develop to our west today and maintain as it crosses the region tonight. But for a good 4-5 hours overnight it will still be very windy. There will still be some trees/limbs that come down and there will be some power outages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago What is the Oct 2020 event BOX is talking about? Severe and wind .. no recollection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: What is the Oct 2020 event BOX is talking about? Severe and wind .. no recollection That was a derecho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago We had no power and lots of damage here from that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 8 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: We had no power and lots of damage here from that. Was that widespread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Hoping @vortex95swoops in later today and assures that everything still on track from his post yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Was that widespread? I think it was. But I don't see the CAPE in this one really. That one did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago Looking at some 12z NAM bufkit locations we're still looking at 45-50 mph gusts region wide but there may still be a sliver of a window where there could be some gusts in the 55-60 range somewhere. Many soundings still have ~50 knots at the top of the mixed layer. Obviously this doesn't guarantee that translates to the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, dendrite said: The W-NW CAA winds generally are. We can do 45-55mph no problem, but the >55kt stuff is rare. The westerly component doesn’t do as much tree damage either since the trees grow braced against that flow. Give me a mixed down raging easterly LLJ over something this. Maybe an isolated gust here and there, but only once have I experienced hours and hours of >55kt blasts. That was on New Years Day of 1962, a bitter (5/-8, chilly for NNJ) day with gusts that had to approach 70 mph as some large leafless oaks were uprooted from the semi-frozen ground - only 2" snow OG. Meanwhile a strong LP was doing a loop in the GOM and burying the Penobscot area from BGR (29.5") to Ripogenus (46") with 60+ mph gusts there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Looks like BOX went with an advisory for most with a warning for the east slopes of the berks and the cape and islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstoned Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 52 minutes ago, tamarack said: Maybe an isolated gust here and there, but only once have I experienced hours and hours of >55kt blasts. That was on New Years Day of 1962, a bitter (5/-8, chilly for NNJ) day with gusts that had to approach 70 mph as some large leafless oaks were uprooted from the semi-frozen ground - only 2" snow OG. Meanwhile a strong LP was doing a loop in the GOM and burying the Penobscot area from BGR (29.5") to Ripogenus (46") with 60+ mph gusts there. I recall that here in MA-- plus skating on the Concord River-- solidly frozen but for an open channel in the fast current middle. How often does that happen these days? Needless to say, we skated the peripheries. That combination of extreme wind and cold was both long lasting and memorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Oct 17 is my non tropical Benchmark. Pretty scary long duration with limb bark shingles banging agint the house for hours . Had a 4 inch limb go thru the roof. Lost all the ridge vent shingles. Insurance guy told me hadto be 70 plus to do that 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Actually getting pretty breezy now here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago I am really curious to see what moves through this evening (this would be fore Mass though and far northeast CT) in terms of a low topped line. There are some subtle hints at some very weak instability along/just ahead of the line as 500mb temperatures quickly cool and lapse rates steepen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago HRRR showing some signs of convective gusts on the front. May have to watch that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago This about right for timing? 9-11 showers/ storms 12-5 AM Big rips ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Damage In Tolland said: This about right for timing? 9-11 showers/ storms 12-5 AM Big rips ? Looks about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 hours ago, Brian5671 said: Same story for 4 years really-the benchmark storm has become rare Yeah and again…don’t want to make too much of it right now, but even that coastal in October was a pretty meh dual low mess. I get why people are cautiously optimistic about winter but the raging PAC jet interfering in the development of proper coastal and placement of important features is something to watch, I think. 5 hours ago, WinterWolf said: I wouldn’t go that far Don. We do very high end coastal winter storms here. We were just due for a regression. And that’s exactly what we got. Those will be back. San Diego does nothing but blue skies and mild temps. So we are not quite them. I’m being a little colorful, because we can do various types of high end wx, but the return time and regional scale vary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: Yeah and again…don’t want to make too much of it right now, but even that coastal in October was a pretty meh dual low mess. I get why people are cautiously optimistic about winter but the raging PAC jet interfering in the development of proper coastal and placement of important features is something to watch, I think. I’m being a little colorful, because we can do various types of high end wx, but the return time and regional scale vary. That's the thing...we really don't do high end wx in the Northeast well at all and the return time between high end weather is quite long. This includes severe weather, tropical, and yes this includes winter weather too. Outside of the Southwest, IMO we are the most mundane country in the region. I'd even put the Northwest slightly above us because Fall/Winter/Spring they can get some high impact storms with high winds, widespread power outages, the significant mountain snows which causes closures of travel passes and stretches of highways. Sure out of these, the return rate of snowstorms > 12" over a widespread area is much higher, but at the end of the day, our winter storms aren't extremely impactful. How often do you see stretches of 84, 91, 95, etc close during the winter storm? Go into the central Plains, northern Plains, Northwest...you can getmultiplel hundred mile stretches of closures along I-80, I-90, I-94, I-25, etc. If you take the intensity of weather elements we receive here and compare to other regions...the extent of the severity we see is pretty meh compared to anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: That's the thing...we really don't do high end wx in the Northeast well at all and the return time between high end weather is quite long. This includes severe weather, tropical, and yes this includes winter weather too. Outside of the Southwest, IMO we are the most mundane country in the region. I'd even put the Northwest slightly above us because Fall/Winter/Spring they can get some high impact storms with high winds, widespread power outages, the significant mountain snows which causes closures of travel passes and stretches of highways. Sure out of these, the return rate of snowstorms > 12" over a widespread area is much higher, but at the end of the day, our winter storms aren't extremely impactful. How often do you see stretches of 84, 91, 95, etc close during the winter storm? Go into the central Plains, northern Plains, Northwest...you can getmultiplel hundred mile stretches of closures along I-80, I-90, I-94, I-25, etc. If you take the intensity of weather elements we receive here and compare to other regions...the extent of the severity we see is pretty meh compared to anywhere else. Again, we do winter pretty well…but we’ve been in a slump. But that will change. We had high end event, after high end event for quite a long time in the winter for a long stretch…we were due for a big slump. And we’ve had it. So now I think we’ll start to recover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Again, we do winter pretty well…but we’ve been in a slump. But that will change. We had high end event, after high end event for quite a long time in the winter for a long stretch…we were due for a big slump. And we’ve had it. So now I think we’ll start to recover. Compared to the South, sure we do winter well but just speaking in terms of an average winter, we are nothing special versus the interior West, northern Plains, upper-Midwest. Outside of higher elevations and northern New England (because of latitude) our average winter isn't wild...what around 30" towards the coast (probably even a bit less) and upwards of 35-50" across the interior? What is the most common snow storm for the region...3-6" 4-8"? That's probably not much different than these other areas and those other areas...get true blizzards. There's no doubt winter storms trump other weather phenomena here, but they are still relatively meh compared to other regions of the country. But this is just looking at severity of weather elements. If we want to talk societal impact that's a different argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Ya, their blizzards in the Midwest are 3-5” with 60-70 mph winds. I’ll take our 18-24” ones with 35-50 mph winds any day. We do better than the mid west most times. Inter mountain west is a different animal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Ya, their blizzards in the Midwest are 3-5” with 60-70 mph winds. I’ll take our 18-24” ones with 35-50 mph winds any day. We do better than the mid west most times. Inter mountain west is a different animal. I would LOVE to experience a Great Plains blizzard some day. That has to be some wild stuff...that and a major LES event. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago Gusts cranking for sure out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 15 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Compared to the South, sure we do winter well but just speaking in terms of an average winter, we are nothing special versus the interior West, northern Plains, upper-Midwest. Outside of higher elevations and northern New England (because of latitude) our average winter isn't wild...what around 30" towards the coast (probably even a bit less) and upwards of 35-50" across the interior? What is the most common snow storm for the region...3-6" 4-8"? That's probably not much different than these other areas and those other areas...get true blizzards. There's no doubt winter storms trump other weather phenomena here, but they are still relatively meh compared to other regions of the country. But this is just looking at severity of weather elements. If we want to talk societal impact that's a different argument. 8 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Ya, their blizzards in the Midwest are 3-5” with 60-70 mph winds. I’ll take our 18-24” ones with 35-50 mph winds any day. We do better than the mid west most times. Inter mountain west is a different animal. This. Our non-elevation snow rates/accumulation are second to the LES belts, and I wouldn’t trade that for a 5-10” Midwest blizzard with 70mph winds, even though I love wind. But high end to me is the HECS territory. We had a great stretch last decade, but region wide historic has happened less than a handful of times? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted 39 minutes ago Share Posted 39 minutes ago 10 hours ago, ineedsnow said: She gone Max gusts dropped from like 45mph to 40 here. Nbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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