Late June 2025 Heat Wave

[Harry Perry]

3 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Actually I disagree if we are talking extreme heat vs extreme cold. I think majority of people would rather have neither but would take extreme cold over extreme heat. 

And lol we get way lower than 40s for months. They could never even have a michigan Fall day let alone winter day. But these past few days are right on par with many Florida summer days. Thank goodness it was only 3-4 days.

Until Saturday. Looks like we’re headed back to the hills with high heat indices for the weekend into the beginning of next week.

[michsnowfreak]

35 minutes ago, Harry Perry said:

Until Saturday. Looks like we’re headed back to the hills with high heat indices for the weekend into the beginning of next week.

More heat and humidity coming....but not like what we just saw

[michsnowfreak]

Interestingly the U.S. was 2° below normal yesterday 

[TheClimateChanger]

25 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Interestingly the U.S. was 2° below normal yesterday 

Find me a single place that was actually 20 to 30 degrees below normal in the U.S. and then I'll believe that nonsense. What a joke.

[thomp2mp]

hit 93° imby before our 3rd Severe T-Storm Warning of the year, after which we dropped to 74°

 

currently 79/72, and suddenly we've got fireflies, you would not believe your eyes

[roardog]

19 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Find me a single place that was actually 20 to 30 degrees below normal in the U.S. and then I'll believe that nonsense. What a joke.

If I’m reading that map correctly, it looks like those are temp departures at 21Z Jun 22nd. What don’t you believe about that map? I looked up Cut Bank, Montana for example and they were in the mid 40s at 21Z Sunday and their normal temps are in the low 70s. So that looks pretty accurate to me. 

[TheClimateChanger]

13 minutes ago, roardog said:

If I’m reading that map correctly, it looks like those are temp departures at 21Z Jun 22nd. What don’t you believe about that map? I looked up Cut Bank, Montana for example and they were in the mid 40s at 21Z Sunday and their normal temps are in the low 70s. So that looks pretty accurate to me. 

Departures from normal aren't calculated from a single point in time. The map has a bunch of places "below normal" that were being cooled off from thundershowers in the south, for instance. That's a meaningless statistic. Funny how all the areas shown as 30 below normal had actual daily departures a small fraction of that, while the areas shown as 15-20 degrees above normal literally were 15-20 degrees above normal. But carry on.

[michsnowfreak]

I shared a post that a meteorologist posted and tcc loses his shit. Yet he freely posts things all the time from other sources without checking. Its nice to know that from here on tcc will only be concerned about daily temp departures. No more notes about 1am temps or what not!

Ok so per that map, 21Z temps were -2.0° below avg in the U.S.

[roardog]

16 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Departures from normal aren't calculated from a single point in time. The map has a bunch of places "below normal" that were being cooled off from thundershowers in the south, for instance. That's a meaningless statistic. Funny how all the areas shown as 30 below normal had actual daily departures a small fraction of that, while the areas shown as 15-20 degrees above normal literally were 15-20 degrees above normal. But carry on.

I think the overall point of posting that map was to show that despite being hot in the Midwest and northeast, the country had a lot of well below normal temperatures in the western half on Sunday. There was some impressive chill out there even if the daily departures weren’t -30.

[OrdIowPitMsp]

10 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Find me a single place that was actually 20 to 30 degrees below normal in the U.S. and then I'll believe that nonsense. What a joke

Didn’t look very hard, best I could find was Great Falls Montana with a daily departure of -19F on the 22nd.

[TheClimateChanger]

30 minutes ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

Didn’t look very hard, best I could find was Great Falls Montana with a daily departure of -19F on the 22nd.

I saw that one and that looks like the absolute minimum, which is to say there were no NWS climate stations that were more than 20F below normal as I insinuated. Most places in the intermountain  west were 5-15F below normal on Sunday.

[michsnowfreak]

Final heatwave numbers for Detroit:

6/21- 92 / 68
6/22- 94 / 78
6/23 - 95 / 75
6/24 - 95 / 76

A solid heatwave, but one as roardog and I noted before it began, that would be more impressive for lows than highs. The only record high, a tie, was on 6/23, and that was low hanging fruit to begin with. But 3 consecutive days set record warm lows (6/22-24).

To put this into perspective, in Detroits climate record: The hottest this heatwave was 95F and there have been 197 days with a high or 96F+ on record. The warmest low was 78F, and there have only been 9 days with a higher min (*there have been 10 other days matching the low of 78F).

IMO this will likely end up the worst heat of the year.

[Powerball]

On 6/24/2025 at 6:03 PM, Stevo6899 said:

They say the same when they have those rare days in the 40s. Thats us for atleast 5 months.  All depends on individuals tolerance. I think most people would take warmth over arctic air.

 

I started to post exactly that in response, but yeah. You're spot on, lol...

EDIT: Funny thing is, after 3 top 20 hottest Summers in a row before 2025, this Summer's looking to be more on the normal (if not cooler) side with no real heatwaves on the horizon for us. We still have yet to see our first 100*F+ day and should close out June without one.

[A-L-E-K]

low 70s with lake breeze today

[Jackstraw]

On 6/24/2025 at 7:41 AM, nwohweather said:

I feel like I’m back in South Carolina with this heat wave. Pretty impressive to see these level of dew points

Ditto. I try to explain to people around here what it's like down there, especially inland. They just don't understand that you can actually adapt to it. I had people from here come down to vacation for a week and leave after 3 days lmao. I couldn't figure out why every one moved so slow down there when I first moved there from FL (beach FL mind you with life saving sea breezes). I mean it is very noticeable they move at a different pace in the low country. Then the full force of summer hit, for like 5 months, and I got it lol. I started calling it slow country instead of low country.

[KeenerWx]

Haven't had much luck cashing in on the popcorn. Brief neighborhood sized shower yesterday. Trying to keep a bunch of plants happy - very least free of stress - and could use a little help from mother. 

[michsnowfreak]

2 hours ago, Powerball said:

 

I started to posted exactly that in response, but yeah. You're spot on, lol...

EDIT: Funny thing is, after 3 top 20 hottest Summers in a row before 2025, this Summer's looking to be more on the normal (if not cooler) side with no real heatwaves on the horizon for us. We still have yet to see our first 100*F+ day and should close out June without one.

My aunts sister has lived in Texas since the late 1970s and HATES the summers down there. She always says that no one goes out during the day. 

Obviously you can adapt to an extent to long winters or summers, but people will always have preferences.

[Stevo6899]

22 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Actually I disagree if we are talking extreme heat vs extreme cold. I think majority of people would rather have neither but would take extreme cold over extreme heat. 

And lol we get way lower than 40s for months. They could never even have a michigan Fall day let alone winter day. But these past few days are right on par with many Florida summer days. Thank goodness it was only 3-4 days.

Funny thing is we can tolerate the heat by going out on the boat or to go the beach. When its cold in the south, they hibernate and don't even leave the house. Although that sounds like thats you in the summer here lol.

[Stevo6899]

4 hours ago, Jackstraw said:

Ditto. I try to explain to people around here what it's like down there, especially inland. They just don't understand that you can actually adapt to it. I had people from here come down to vacation for a week and leave after 3 days lmao. I couldn't figure out why every one moved so slow down there when I first moved there from FL (beach FL mind you with life saving sea breezes). I mean it is very noticeable they move at a different pace in the low country. Then the full force of summer hit, for like 5 months, and I got it lol. I started calling it slow country instead of low country.

Yea its definitly adaptable but like with alot of things, it's all mental. In time, one should be able to learn to adapt, tolerate and even be productive in it.

[Powerball]

10 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

My aunts sister has lived in Texas since the late 1970s and HATES the summers down there. She always says that no one goes out during the day. 

Obviously you can adapt to an extent to long winters or summers, but people will always have preferences.

The bolded is a huge exaggeration, lol. But Texas summers are like Michigan winters in that a lot of people are staying under the A/C or heat as much as they can.