June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[Sundog]

Barrier Islands on LI including southern Queens are all in the mid 60s while a few miles north it's around 80 or 81 degrees. 

[Cfa]

Very smoky 71 on the south shore, 81 at my PWS on the north shore.

[psv88]

Was 81 now down to 78 with a breeze. Beautiful day. Being a bit further south makes the hot days more bearable 

[SACRUS]

 

Noon Round up

 

 

New Brnswck: 82
EWR: 82
LGA: 80
ACY: 80
NYC: 79
TEB: 79
PHL: 79
TTN: 79
BLM: 78
ISP: 74
JFK: 72

[SACRUS]

 

Smoke / haze has cleard NJ and most of the 5 boroughs slowly fading east.   Tomorrow clouds from the mess around N-FL - GA could drift north - we'll see if any impacts on us as a potential limiting factor on highs.

 

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, FPizz said:

It is actually 100x and it has stabilization...but when zooming in, you really need a still hand. This was around 645 this morning.

it can't be 100x optical because that would necessitate a large heavy lens.  I have a few digital cameras with 50X optical zoom and they all weigh over a pound lol.  It's likely 10x optical and 10x digital zoom (combo is 100x).  My cameras with 50X optical zoom also have 2x digital zoom (total of 100X like yours but heavier because 50x optical zoom weighs a lot and requires the lens to extend outwards about 6 inches from the body of the camera.)

 

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 97 (1943)
NYC: 99 (1925)
LGA: 96 (1943)
JFK: 91 (1971)


Lows:

EWR: 48 (1964)
NYC: 48 (1926)
LGA: 51 (2023)
JFK: 49 (2023)

 

Historical:

 

1825 - A hurricane struck Long Island NY leveling trees and causing damage to ships. The early season hurricane, which originated around Cuba, caused major damage along the Atlantic coast from Charleston SC to New York City. Many were lost at sea. (David Ludlum)

 

1825: A severe storm of tropical origin swept up the Atlantic Coast during the first week of June 1825 with reports of significant damage from Florida to New York City. Shipping logs told of a disturbance at Santo Domingo on May 28th and Cuba on June 1st. Gales were reported at St. Augustine, Florida on the 2nd. The Norfolk and Portsmouth Herald reported "undiminished violence" from the gale force winds for 27 hours, ending on June 4th. The effect of the storm reached well inland. Washington had cold, heavy rain all day on the 4th with high winds laying the crops in the vicinity. The wind also tore up trees by the roots in front of the State House in Philadelphia. This storm impacted the New Jersey Coast and the Long Island area as well with high winds and a two-foot storm surge. A Columbian frigate was driven ashore as were many smaller boats. The largest loss of life occurred along the Long Island shore when a schooner capsized. The entire crew of seven was lost.

1860 - Iowa's Commanche Tornado , with wind speeds estimated in excess of 300 mph, was unquestionably one of the worst experienced by early settlers, with nearly a million dollars damage. (The Weather Channel)

1877: A tornado of estimated F4 intensity touched down just west of Mt. Carmel, Illinois and moved east-northeast, devastating the town. 20 businesses and 100 homes were damaged or destroyed. At least 16 people and as many as 30 were killed, with 100 others injured.

1885: Pittsburgh, PA & Cleveland, OH received up to 10 inches of rain that caused serious flooding. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1892: A rare June snowfall occurred at Cheyenne, WY with 8 inches reported also in 1937 Cheyenne, WY reported 3 inches of snow.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1945: Several locations in the upper Midwest had their coldest June temperatures on record. La Crosse, WI and Waukon, IA dropped to 32°. This was their latest spring freeze and coldest June temperature. Other locations recording their coldest June temperature were Mondovi, WI: 29° and Richland Center, WI: 31°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1958: An F4 tornado tracked 32 miles through St Croix and Dunn Counties in Wisconsin, killing 20 people and injuring 110 others.
(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1982 - A four day storm began over New England which produced up to 14 inches of rain in southern Connecticut breaching twenty-three dams and breaking two others. Damage was estimated at more than 276 million dollars. (David Ludlum)

1987 - Early morning thunderstorms in south Texas produced 6.5 inches of rain at Hockheim, and five inches at Hallettsville, in just a few hours. Afternoon thunderstorms in Virginia deluged northern Halifax County with 5.5 inches of rain in two hours. Thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 76 mph at Dusty WA, and wind gusts to 88 mph at Swanquarter NC. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - A dozen cities in the eastern U.S. reported record low temp- eratures for the date, including Atlantic City NJ with a reading of 40 degrees. Fifteen cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Glasgow MT and Havre MT with readings of 102 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Southern Plains Region and the Lower Mississippi Valley to the Southern Atlantic Coast Region during the day and into the night. Just four tornadoes were reported, but there were 87 reports of large hail and damaging winds. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

1993: Lynchburg had 70 mph winds, 95% of city lost power, 21 million damage. Severe thunderstorms were widespread from Missouri and Arkansas eastward to the Mid Atlantic states with more than 260 reports of severe weather, including over two dozen tornadoes. An early morning mesoscale convective complex over southern Missouri and north Arkansas moved eastward and evolved into a vicious derecho, traversing eastward across Kentucky in excess at 80 mph at one point. Wind gusts reached 100 mph near Elizabethtown, KY. Damage was widespread. 30 homes and mobile homes suffered major damage in Butler County. Over 75% of the roads in the county were blocked due to downed trees. 4.5 inch diameter hail fell at Smith Mountain Lake, VA. Total damage from the high winds at hail in Virginia was $60 million dollars, with $21 million of that occurred in the city of Lynchburg. 3.5 inch inch diameter hail was reported in Davie County in North Carolina. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1998: The temperature at Williston, ND dropped to 26° to establish a monthly record for June. Neillsville, WI also reported their coldest June temperature as they dropped to 22°. The mercury dropped to 24° in Tower, MN as winter made one last call across the northern Plains. 2 to 3 inches of snow fell in portions of South Dakota and 7 inches fell in portions of Wyoming. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1825 - A hurricane struck Long Island NY leveling trees and causing damage to ships. The early season hurricane, which originated around Cuba, caused major damage along the Atlantic coast from Charleston SC to New York City. Many were lost at sea. (David Ludlum)

 

1825: A severe storm of tropical origin swept up the Atlantic Coast during the first week of June 1825 with reports of significant damage from Florida to New York City. Shipping logs told of a disturbance at Santo Domingo on May 28th and Cuba on June 1st. Gales were reported at St. Augustine, Florida on the 2nd. The Norfolk and Portsmouth Herald reported "undiminished violence" from the gale force winds for 27 hours, ending on June 4th. The effect of the storm reached well inland. Washington had cold, heavy rain all day on the 4th with high winds laying the crops in the vicinity. The wind also tore up trees by the roots in front of the State House in Philadelphia. This storm impacted the New Jersey Coast and the Long Island area as well with high winds and a two-foot storm surge. A Columbian frigate was driven ashore as were many smaller boats. The largest loss of life occurred along the Long Island shore when a schooner capsized. The entire crew of seven was lost.

 

wow, this was a hurricane that hit up here in the first week of June? what were the SSTs?

a 2 foot storm surge sounds just below hurricane intensity though?

Maybe a Cat 1-- any re-analysis done on this storm's track, point of landfall and intensity, Tony?

[Dark Star]

4 hours ago, Sundog said:

How did I go my whole life without knowing about this? 

Probably was the "modern convenience" in late 1950s-60s before ACs took over?

[FPizz]

4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it can't be 100x optical because that would necessitate a large heavy lens.  I have a few digital cameras with 50X optical zoom and they all weigh over a pound lol.  It's likely 10x optical and 10x digital zoom (combo is 100x).  My cameras with 50X optical zoom also have 2x digital zoom (total of 100X like yours but heavier because 50x optical zoom weighs a lot and requires the lens to extend outwards about 6 inches from the body of the camera.)

 

100x zoom.  I'm not a camera expert.  Thought that is what you meant.  

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, Dark Star said:

Probably was the "modern convenience" in late 1950s-60s before ACs took over?

Exactly...my house was built in 1973 and originally had no AC.   It's loud but you turn it on and open some windows and the cool air comes rushing in-leave it on for 30 minutes after the sun goes down.

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 97 (1943)
NYC: 99 (1925)
LGA: 96 (1943)
JFK: 91 (1971)


Lows:

EWR: 48 (1964)
NYC: 48 (1926)
LGA: 51 (2023)
JFK: 49 (2023)

 

Historical:

 

1825 - A hurricane struck Long Island NY leveling trees and causing damage to ships. The early season hurricane, which originated around Cuba, caused major damage along the Atlantic coast from Charleston SC to New York City. Many were lost at sea. (David Ludlum)

 

1825: A severe storm of tropical origin swept up the Atlantic Coast during the first week of June 1825 with reports of significant damage from Florida to New York City. Shipping logs told of a disturbance at Santo Domingo on May 28th and Cuba on June 1st. Gales were reported at St. Augustine, Florida on the 2nd. The Norfolk and Portsmouth Herald reported "undiminished violence" from the gale force winds for 27 hours, ending on June 4th. The effect of the storm reached well inland. Washington had cold, heavy rain all day on the 4th with high winds laying the crops in the vicinity. The wind also tore up trees by the roots in front of the State House in Philadelphia. This storm impacted the New Jersey Coast and the Long Island area as well with high winds and a two-foot storm surge. A Columbian frigate was driven ashore as were many smaller boats. The largest loss of life occurred along the Long Island shore when a schooner capsized. The entire crew of seven was lost.

1860 - Iowa's Commanche Tornado , with wind speeds estimated in excess of 300 mph, was unquestionably one of the worst experienced by early settlers, with nearly a million dollars damage. (The Weather Channel)

1877: A tornado of estimated F4 intensity touched down just west of Mt. Carmel, Illinois and moved east-northeast, devastating the town. 20 businesses and 100 homes were damaged or destroyed. At least 16 people and as many as 30 were killed, with 100 others injured.

1885: Pittsburgh, PA & Cleveland, OH received up to 10 inches of rain that caused serious flooding. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1892: A rare June snowfall occurred at Cheyenne, WY with 8 inches reported also in 1937 Cheyenne, WY reported 3 inches of snow.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1945: Several locations in the upper Midwest had their coldest June temperatures on record. La Crosse, WI and Waukon, IA dropped to 32°. This was their latest spring freeze and coldest June temperature. Other locations recording their coldest June temperature were Mondovi, WI: 29° and Richland Center, WI: 31°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1958: An F4 tornado tracked 32 miles through St Croix and Dunn Counties in Wisconsin, killing 20 people and injuring 110 others.
(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1982 - A four day storm began over New England which produced up to 14 inches of rain in southern Connecticut breaching twenty-three dams and breaking two others. Damage was estimated at more than 276 million dollars. (David Ludlum)

1987 - Early morning thunderstorms in south Texas produced 6.5 inches of rain at Hockheim, and five inches at Hallettsville, in just a few hours. Afternoon thunderstorms in Virginia deluged northern Halifax County with 5.5 inches of rain in two hours. Thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 76 mph at Dusty WA, and wind gusts to 88 mph at Swanquarter NC. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - A dozen cities in the eastern U.S. reported record low temp- eratures for the date, including Atlantic City NJ with a reading of 40 degrees. Fifteen cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Glasgow MT and Havre MT with readings of 102 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Southern Plains Region and the Lower Mississippi Valley to the Southern Atlantic Coast Region during the day and into the night. Just four tornadoes were reported, but there were 87 reports of large hail and damaging winds. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

1993: Lynchburg had 70 mph winds, 95% of city lost power, 21 million damage. Severe thunderstorms were widespread from Missouri and Arkansas eastward to the Mid Atlantic states with more than 260 reports of severe weather, including over two dozen tornadoes. An early morning mesoscale convective complex over southern Missouri and north Arkansas moved eastward and evolved into a vicious derecho, traversing eastward across Kentucky in excess at 80 mph at one point. Wind gusts reached 100 mph near Elizabethtown, KY. Damage was widespread. 30 homes and mobile homes suffered major damage in Butler County. Over 75% of the roads in the county were blocked due to downed trees. 4.5 inch diameter hail fell at Smith Mountain Lake, VA. Total damage from the high winds at hail in Virginia was $60 million dollars, with $21 million of that occurred in the city of Lynchburg. 3.5 inch inch diameter hail was reported in Davie County in North Carolina. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1998: The temperature at Williston, ND dropped to 26° to establish a monthly record for June. Neillsville, WI also reported their coldest June temperature as they dropped to 22°. The mercury dropped to 24° in Tower, MN as winter made one last call across the northern Plains. 2 to 3 inches of snow fell in portions of South Dakota and 7 inches fell in portions of Wyoming. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1982 - A four day storm began over New England which produced up to 14 inches of rain in southern Connecticut breaching twenty-three dams and breaking two others. Damage was estimated at more than 276 million dollars. (David Ludlum)

 

1988 - A dozen cities in the eastern U.S. reported record low temp- eratures for the date, including Atlantic City NJ with a reading of 40 degrees. Fifteen cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Glasgow MT and Havre MT with readings of 102 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

 

wow a 4 day storm in June 1982-- a few months after the historic April 1982 cold blizzard !! By the way this wasn't just a 4 day storm for New England, it was also for NYC and Long Island!  I wonder how much rain fell here.... 14 inches of rain in Southern CT sounds like a lot of rain here too!!

And it was 40 degrees at ACY on this date in 1988.... that must be the latest it's ever been 40 degrees there?

2 years ago history repeated itself and we were in the 40s here too!

 

JFK: 49 (2023)

[FPizz]

1 minute ago, Dark Star said:

Probably was the "modern convenience" in late 1950s-60s before ACs took over?

My old house was from the late 70s, I think 77, and had it.  It seems like all the split level homes in the neighborhood had it, but the bi-levels, colonials and ranches didn't.  

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, FPizz said:

My old house was from the late 70s, I think 77, and had it.  It seems like all the split level homes in the neighborhood had it, but the bi-levels, colonials and ranches didn't.  

was probably an add on  you could select when the house was being built....we are probably one of the few that still use it-but I don't like to turn on the AC unless it's needed-like the fresh air better but when it's HHH it goes on.

[Sundog]

12 minutes ago, FPizz said:

My old house was from the late 70s, I think 77, and had it.  It seems like all the split level homes in the neighborhood had it, but the bi-levels, colonials and ranches didn't.  

My house is from the 50s and it doesn't have jack sht lol 

[steve392]

85 and a tad hazy.  Hopefully lawn and plants can fully take in this sun and warmth for a while. 

[Brian5671]

Just now, Sundog said:

My house is from the 50s and it doesn't have jack sht lol 

Obsolete-most of those are being torn down here and replaced with bigger homes

[FPizz]

7 minutes ago, Sundog said:

My house is from the 50s and it doesn't have jack sht lol 

My current house is from 1985 and doesn't have it, but my neighbors does.  I'm jealous.  Like Brian said, it was perfect to put on for like 30 minutes during evenings like yesterday.  The breeze it created was awesome too. My old house being a split level with the bedrooms on top level and the a/c unit pushing air from the basement that was pretty much 4 levels down was useless.   

Up to 86 here

[Brian5671]

3 minutes ago, FPizz said:

My current house is from 1985 and doesn't have it, but my neighbors does.  I'm jealous.  Like Brian said, it was perfect to put on for like 30 minutes during evenings like yesterday.  The breeze it created was awesome too. My old house being a split level with the bedrooms on top level and the a/c unit pushing air from the basement that was pretty much 4 levels down was useless.   

Up to 86 here

I had a cape before this house-impossible to get cool air upstairs and the roofline was right there-no attic...terrible.

[TWCCraig]

The smoke put a damper on temps out here, thankfully it's clearing out now.

High of only 75 at ISP so far, actually cooler than yesterday's high of 78.

[LibertyBell]

59 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Exactly...my house was built in 1973 and originally had no AC.   It's loud but you turn it on and open some windows and the cool air comes rushing in-leave it on for 30 minutes after the sun goes down.

I blame these stupid brick oven houses.  They build homes much better in other parts of the country where 90 degrees doesn't feel hot at all and homes cool rapidly at night.

In the future I strongly believe we'll all be building houses like that.

[LibertyBell]

46 minutes ago, Sundog said:

My house is from the 50s and it doesn't have jack sht lol 

everyone will be building homes like they do in the southwest soon enough. 90 degrees doesn't feel hot and the homes cool down rapidly at night.

[Sundog]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

everyone will be building homes like they do in the southwest soon enough. 90 degrees doesn't feel hot and the homes cool down rapidly at night.

Unfortunately nothing cools down nicely at night in this urban behemoth 

[SACRUS]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

1825 - A hurricane struck Long Island NY leveling trees and causing damage to ships. The early season hurricane, which originated around Cuba, caused major damage along the Atlantic coast from Charleston SC to New York City. Many were lost at sea. (David Ludlum)

 

1825: A severe storm of tropical origin swept up the Atlantic Coast during the first week of June 1825 with reports of significant damage from Florida to New York City. Shipping logs told of a disturbance at Santo Domingo on May 28th and Cuba on June 1st. Gales were reported at St. Augustine, Florida on the 2nd. The Norfolk and Portsmouth Herald reported "undiminished violence" from the gale force winds for 27 hours, ending on June 4th. The effect of the storm reached well inland. Washington had cold, heavy rain all day on the 4th with high winds laying the crops in the vicinity. The wind also tore up trees by the roots in front of the State House in Philadelphia. This storm impacted the New Jersey Coast and the Long Island area as well with high winds and a two-foot storm surge. A Columbian frigate was driven ashore as were many smaller boats. The largest loss of life occurred along the Long Island shore when a schooner capsized. The entire crew of seven was lost.

 

wow, this was a hurricane that hit up here in the first week of June? what were the SSTs?

a 2 foot storm surge sounds just below hurricane intensity though?

Maybe a Cat 1-- any re-analysis done on this storm's track, point of landfall and intensity, Tony?

 

 

Not sure about the re-analysis if any but here is another account

"It raked Norfolk with "undiminished violence" for 27 hours from the morning of the 3rd, as the storm passed by to the east. The wind came in "flaws". Trees were uprooted. At noon on the 4th, stores on the wharves were flooded up to five feet in depth. High winds howled through Washington, DC. Along with a cold rain, winds leveled crops. The storm then moved northeast past Nantucket on the 5th. An account of the storm was given by Ann Waller Tazewell, wife of the then governor of Virginia in a letter to her son. She describes the storm as such
"....The rain commenced on Friday morning (3rd), and continued pretty steadily all day, at night the wind blew so hard that this house rocked considerably. I was so much alarmed as to be unable to sleep but very little - I thought of my flowers, but could not expect anyone so much as to look after my cows or anything, as the rain fell in torrents, and the wind came in flaws, which made it like thunder yesterday (4th) the storm continued until five in the evening, there was a strong northwest wind all day, and the highest tide I ever saw in my life. The wind and tide together tore down all our enclosures at the other lot, upset our cow-house and then dashed it to pieces, tore up some of the wharf logs, upset the Temple there, and drifted it into the flower garden. We sat at the front windows witnessing the destruction all the time it was going on. Our front lot was two thirds covered by the tide. Some vessels that we saw pass rapidly by, were driven ashore at the Hospital Point (Portsmouth)........" Ann Tazewell later compares the storm to the great gale of September 1821 in this following passage: " ....Such a storm was never experienced here before, by anyone that I have heard speak of it. It is thought to have been far worse than the September gale of 1821. " Mrs. Tazewell's letter also mentions that they could not prepare dinner since the tide level was even with the kitchen floor. An account of the storm as given by the Norfolk and Portsmouth Herald described the storm as such. .....It is uncommon to hear of violent storms and hurricanes on any part of our extensive coast in the month of June; but we have to notice a visitation of stormy weather, which commenced about 9 o'clock on Friday night (3rd), rarely if ever equaled within the life span of the oldest inhabitant. The storm of the 3rd of September 1821 was perhaps more violent but it only lasted three or four hours, while this storm continued with undiminished violence, from the hour we have stated until 12 o'clock on Saturday night (4th), or about 27 hours. The wind at the commencement of the storm was northeast and so continued until about 12 o'clock on Saturday, when it began to haul gradually to the northwest and westward, and held up at southwest.... According to this account, the tides in this storm were higher than those in the September gale of 1821."

[LoboLeader1]

83 here as of 3:30, looking wet for the upcoming weekend.

[winterwx21]

I knew it was gonna be very close for my location, and we did touch 90 here. We'll see if we can get a heat wave here. Definitely low 90s tomorrow, but Friday is gonna be close. I say we'll pull it off. 

[WE GOT HIM]

4 hours ago, psv88 said:

Was 81 now down to 78 with a breeze. Beautiful day. Being a bit further south makes the hot days more bearable 

Hii

[MANDA]

Just one 90 degree max reported from NJWXNET.

Lots of 87-89 maxes.

[steve392]

How confident are so. E that we'll get rain this Friday and weekend?  Trying to decide if I'm going to put fertilizer down or not. 

[Stormlover74]

1 hour ago, steve392 said:

How confident are so. E that we'll get rain this Friday and weekend?  Trying to decide if I'm going to put fertilizer down or not. 

models are still all over the place. my guess is we'll at least see something saturday afternoon/evening

[steve392]

3 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

models are still all over the place. my guess is we'll at least see something saturday afternoon/evening

I can go with that.  Just don't want this stuff sitting for days or over a week.