Brian5671 Posted Saturday at 02:25 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:25 PM Just now, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Yeah that’s a big part of it. From my memory that storm was bombing out as it passed overhead. Likely very strong dynamics were able overcome drying. and the "Storm will make it's own cold air" actually worked out too. It was in the low 50's here that morning with heavy rain-by midafternoon it was 30 with heavy snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 02:27 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:27 PM 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: and the "Storm will make it's own cold air" actually worked out too. It was in the low 50's here that morning with heavy rain-by midafternoon it was 30 with heavy snow amazing to have it happen at the last possible moment and on Christmas lol. That was an out and out amazing winter, haven't had a beginning to end winter like that since (I rank it higher than 09-10, 10-11, 13-14 and 14-15 because of the 20 + inch big KU snowstorm in February a big snowstorm in April and the Christmas miracle snowstorm of course.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 02:28 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:28 PM 4 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Yeah that’s a big part of it. From my memory that storm was bombing out as it passed overhead. Likely very strong dynamics were able overcome drying. 02-03 was my second most favorite winter after 1995-96. It had everything-- the Christmas Miracle, the February 20"+ KU snowstorm and the April snowstorm too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted Saturday at 02:33 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:33 PM 8 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Yeah that’s a big part of it. From my memory that storm was bombing out as it passed overhead. Likely very strong dynamics were able overcome drying. The 500mb low closed off in the right spot. The front end was ruined because the storm hugged the coast, but the closed off low kicked the low east and wrapped moisture around to the west to create the backlash heavy snow band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted Saturday at 02:33 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:33 PM Upton’s AFD for today, NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... Winds have been increased with this update to account for gusts that have occurred higher than expected. Moderate to heavy rainfall is beginning to taper with the low moving into the Lower Hudson Valley and SW CT. A Flood Watch remains in effect for the Lower Hudson Valley through 11 am. This area has racked up 1-3" inches of rain with many of the higher amounts in Orange county. Some wrap-around precipitation will move through mid to late morning through much of the area as the low exits north and east. As we get into late morning and early afternoon, the low will continue to exit northeast of the area. This brings in drier air & cuts off most of the more intense precip. Spotty to isolated showers may still occur into the early afternoon. Another chance for brief downpours with showers and thunderstorms may occur with a frontal passage behind the departing low late this afternoon into early tonight. Instability is marginal, so only a few rumbles of thunder are expected. Flood impacts will be minimal given the quicker progression of these showers with the front and given coverage will be less compared to this morning. Ahead of and with the front, a LLJ with move through west to east, which could lead to a spike in winds, leading to gusty conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted Saturday at 02:36 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:36 PM Lets roast Tuesday and Wednesday. Bring it on! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted Saturday at 02:37 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:37 PM 25 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Christmas Day 2001. 9” in 5 hours, all wrap around. You mean 2002. That wraparound was amazing. I had about 8 inches but like 2 miles east were reports of almost 10 inches. I was driving a rear wheel drive stick shift car with performance tires not equipped for winter conditions. That evening was a crash course in winter driving lol. Car actually got stuck in the parking spot that I somehow managed to get it into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 02:42 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:42 PM 6 minutes ago, Sundog said: You mean 2002. That wraparound was amazing. I had about 8 inches but like 2 miles east were reports of almost 10 inches. I was driving a rear wheel drive stick shift car with performance tires not equipped for winter conditions. That evening was a crash course in winter driving lol. Car actually got stuck in the parking spot that I somehow managed to get it into. We also had this kind of situation here on November 7, 2012 in the snowstorm after Sandy (the first snowstorm TWC ever named: *Athena*-- great name!) 8-10 inches of snow and hazardous driving conditions with tree branches down everywhere. 14 inches south of us in Freehold, NJ. A very different winter from 2002-03 of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 02:43 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:43 PM 6 minutes ago, winterwarlock said: Lets roast Tuesday and Wednesday. Bring it on! and Thursday and Friday too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted Saturday at 02:46 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:46 PM 2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: We also had this kind of situation here on November 7, 2012 in the snowstorm after Sandy (the first snowstorm TWC ever named: *Athena*-- great name!) 8-10 inches of snow and hazardous driving conditions with tree branches down everywhere. 14 inches south of us in Freehold, NJ. A very different winter from 2002-03 of course. That November snowstorm dropped a branch on my car that dented the roof and broke off my driver's side door mirror. Somehow by some miracle it didn't break any glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 02:50 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:50 PM 52 minutes ago, Sundog said: That November snowstorm dropped a branch on my car that dented the roof and broke off my driver's side door mirror. Somehow by some miracle it didn't break any glass. wow it sounds like a big and heavy branch !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted Saturday at 02:57 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:57 PM Parts if Orange County, NY experiencing flooding from upwards of 5 plus inches of rain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted Saturday at 03:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:06 PM My brother in Sussex County also said there’s localized flooding near Franklin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted Saturday at 03:13 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:13 PM https://www.weather.gov/wrh/TextProduct?product=pnsphi Latest rainfall numbers from PNS out of PHI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted Saturday at 03:16 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:16 PM Still nasty smoke plume rotating southeast out of Canada. For the most part it is rotating under us today around base of trof / upper level low. As that lifts out we will likely see some affects from it tomorrow and Monday but bulk of it will be directed south and then east so mainly to our south. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 03:49 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:49 PM It's pretty cold here with this wind even with sunshine, tomorrow likely to be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted Saturday at 04:08 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:08 PM My final in Wantage for the 11 hour rain event 2.03 ending 11A. Fits NJ climate data as well as NYS Mesonet.By the way that is .23 LESS than the automated AWN... tips too much in heavy rain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted Saturday at 04:08 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:08 PM 18 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: It's pretty cold here with this wind even with sunshine, tomorrow likely to be the same. Says 66 but feels way colder. Keep getting rain spurts too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted Saturday at 04:32 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:32 PM 23 minutes ago, wdrag said: My final in Wantage for the 11 hour rain event 2.03 ending 11A. Fits NJ climate data as well as NYS Mesonet.By the way that is .23 LESS than the automated AWN... tips too much in heavy rain. 2.63" thru the Davis Vantage Pro tipper and 2.60" in the Stratus for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker2015 Posted Saturday at 04:38 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:38 PM 13 hours ago, LibertyBell said: there's not going to be 1+ rain here that's going to be in the Poconos and NW NJ 1.71" here, not NW or Poconos...swampy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 04:39 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:39 PM Just now, Poker2015 said: 1.71" here, not NW or Poconos...swampy Looks like the sharp divide between <1/>1 rainfall was about 30 miles west of the Hudson, so north central NJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 04:40 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:40 PM 31 minutes ago, steve392 said: Says 66 but feels way colder. Keep getting rain spurts too. could be in the upper 40s tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted Saturday at 04:48 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:48 PM 36 minutes ago, wdrag said: My final in Wantage for the 11 hour rain event 2.03 ending 11A. Fits NJ climate data as well as NYS Mesonet.By the way that is .23 LESS than the automated AWN... tips too much in heavy rain. I'm not surprised. This was always going to be a N&W event. People further east shouldn't have believed those bigger totals. It's just like in the winter. But it was sunny this morning so that's good. And all this wind will blow the clouds away. Windy is good. Sun is better. I am tired of the rain. Hopefully someone builds a 250,000 mile hose to the moon that we can siphon all this rain into the craters. We can wash off the moon rocks and prepare them for mining. I hate the rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted Saturday at 05:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:06 PM 17 minutes ago, Monty said: I'm not surprised. This was always going to be a N&W event. People further east shouldn't have believed those bigger totals. It's just like in the winter. But it was sunny this morning so that's good. And all this wind will blow the clouds away. Windy is good. Sun is better. I am tired of the rain. Hopefully someone builds a 250,000 mile hose to the moon that we can siphon all this rain into the craters. We can wash off the moon rocks and prepare them for mining. I hate the rain. Some instability showers later so we’re not totally done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxallannj Posted Saturday at 05:33 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:33 PM This is my highest May temperatures here in Clifton: 1974 93 1975 93 1976 82 1977 89 1978 90 1979 93 1980 91 1981 90 1982 84 1983 80 1984 85 1985 88 1986 91 1987 97 1988 91 1989 88 1990 80 1991 91 1992 89 1993 88 1994 89 1995 85 1996 95 1997 80 1998 87 1999 90 2000 92 2001 91 2002 85 2003 79 2004 90 2005 83 2006 94 2007 92 2008 88 2009 88 2010 94 2011 89 2012 93 2013 94 2014 89 2015 91 2016 94 2017 95 2018 93 2019 89 2020 87 2021 90 2022 96 2023 89 2024 89 2025 86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 05:35 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:35 PM 1 minute ago, wxallannj said: This is my highest May temperatures here in Clifton: 1974 93 1975 93 1976 82 1977 89 1978 90 1979 93 1980 91 1981 90 1982 84 1983 80 1984 85 1985 88 1986 91 1987 97 1988 91 1989 88 1990 80 1991 91 1992 89 1993 88 1994 89 1995 85 1996 95 1997 80 1998 87 1999 90 2000 92 2001 91 2002 85 2003 79 2004 90 2005 83 2006 94 2007 92 2008 88 2009 88 2010 94 2011 89 2012 93 2013 94 2014 89 2015 91 2016 94 2017 95 2018 93 2019 89 2020 87 2021 90 2022 96 2023 89 2024 89 2025 86 so the last time you had a lower high than this was in 2005 and the only time your highest temperature in May didn't reach 80 was in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxallannj Posted Saturday at 05:41 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:41 PM And how many in May 90+ 1974 2 1975 2 1976 0 1977 0 1978 1 1979 2 1980 2 1981 1 1982 0 1983 0 1984 0 1985 0 1986 3 1987 3 1988 2 1989 0 1990 0 1991 5 1992 0 1993 0 1994 0 1995 0 1996 3 1997 0 1998 0 1999 1 2000 3 2001 3 2002 0 2003 0 2004 1 2005 0 2006 1 2007 2 2008 0 2009 0 2010 3 2011 0 2012 2 2013 3 2014 0 2015 1 2016 4 2017 3 2018 5 2019 0 2020 0 2021 0 2022 3 2023 0 2024 0 2025 0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxallannj Posted Saturday at 05:45 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:45 PM 7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: so the last time you had a lower high than this was in 2005 and the only time your highest temperature in May didn't reach 80 was in 2003. Yes. The 1983 80 degrees was the 2nd lowest, I bolded the wrong year lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 05:47 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:47 PM 3 minutes ago, wxallannj said: Yes. The 1983 80 degrees was the 2nd lowest, I bolded the wrong year lol I find it really interesting that 1983 led to one of our hottest summers (as did 1991 which had the highest number of 90 degree days) and 1996 which had one of our highest May high temperatures did not see 90 again until the last day of August lol. And May 2018 heat came after a historically stormy and cold March and early April with lots of snow-- very different from the lead up to May 1991. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted Saturday at 06:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:05 PM 25 minutes ago, wxallannj said: And how many in May 90+ 1974 2 1975 2 1976 0 1977 0 1978 1 1979 2 1980 2 1981 1 1982 0 1983 0 1984 0 1985 0 1986 3 1987 3 1988 2 1989 0 1990 0 1991 5 1992 0 1993 0 1994 0 1995 0 1996 3 1997 0 1998 0 1999 1 2000 3 2001 3 2002 0 2003 0 2004 1 2005 0 2006 1 2007 2 2008 0 2009 0 2010 3 2011 0 2012 2 2013 3 2014 0 2015 1 2016 4 2017 3 2018 5 2019 0 2020 0 2021 0 2022 3 2023 0 2024 0 2025 0 Nice period of record you got there - 51 years ! Nice! Most people don't stay put that long. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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