May 2025

[LibertyBell]

14 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

The question is do you get any more or is that it?    

This is more than enough rain, looks like it's going to be mostly dry this afternoon and maybe even some sunny breaks just before sunset.

My allergies are acting up now so I know we've had more than enough rain.

[LibertyBell]

11 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah I’m in West Hempstead at my gf place and it just got really dark. If we end up with any very heavy rain I’ll have to head home to monitor the basement. We had 7’ of water in it during the heavy rains August 23 when we had 10”. My landlord blamed my veggie garden for the flooding! So I have a channel cut through it now that drains out to the street. I graded the ground perfectly so I’m waiting to see how it handles some really heavy rain. 

Yeah this is enough rain.  I don't want 1+ inches of rain and it looks like whatever we get this morning will be it.

 

[LibertyBell]

15 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

more on the storm

 

https://www.newenglandstormcenter.com/post/may-shock-looking-back-on-new-england-s-epic-mother-s-day-snowstorm

wow and a NESIS map to boot!  7-8 inches in NE PA and a Trace all the way down to Cape May NJ!

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

This is more than enough rain, looks like it's going to be mostly dry this afternoon and maybe even some sunny breaks just before sunset.

My allergies are acting up now so I know we've had more than enough rain.

The rain should make you’re allergies temporarily better as it knocks the pollen out of the air. Maybe you have some mold issues too?

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

The rain should make you’re allergies temporarily better as it knocks the pollen out of the air. Maybe you have some mold issues too?

Yes it's mostly mold lol, my allergies act up just before it starts to rain, so last night was really bad and this morning.  Maybe now it will be better because the rain should wash the spores out of the air.

I don't have these when it's sunny and dry (although the wind makes it act up too.)

 

 

[LibertyBell]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vQHostxRuQk17EBD-aiuNhDn5ldnPmzZF7x1WYiCbHPtY4Zi9YmZqJWHKmvlwW6QJ_mtv6g0fJNojT3/pubhtml?pli=1

 

 

Danbury received 1" of snow on May 9 1977 and Hartford received 1.3"-- these are the latest snowfalls on record for both locations.

For the entire state of CT it's Litchfield on May 29 1909 when 4.6 inches fell there.

 

[LibertyBell]

17 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

The rain should make you’re allergies temporarily better as it knocks the pollen out of the air. Maybe you have some mold issues too?

turning on my space heater actually stopped the allergies (for now anyway).

 

[gravitylover]

24 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes it's mostly mold lol, my allergies act up just before it starts to rain, so last night was really bad and this morning.  Maybe now it will be better because the rain should wash the spores out of the air.

I don't have these when it's sunny and dry (although the wind makes it act up too.)

 

 

There's a property somewhere in Arizona just waiting for you...

[TJW014]

What a bust down here. Maybe we'll get some wraparound later in the afternoon.  0.03" so far today. Only 0.73" since this "wetter" period began last Friday

[LibertyBell]

10 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

There's a property somewhere in Arizona just waiting for you...

too many spiders/scorpions/snakes/lizards (although no light pollution is really good.)  Flagstaff would be a dream, snowy in the winter, dry and hot in the summer and a certified dark city with very low light pollution.

the space heater works just fine heating everything up and drying it out, I have it set to 83 degrees now.

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

17 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

too many spiders/scorpions/snakes/lizards (although no light pollution is really good.)  Flagstaff would be a dream, snowy in the winter, dry and hot in the summer and a certified dark city with very low light pollution.

the space heater works just fine heating everything up and drying it out, I have it set to 83 degrees now.

Flagstaff is a great spot. Super high though, like altitude sickness high. 

[bluewave]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

whats causing these semipermanent upper lows, it feels like it's the same one hanging around for weeks.

The jet stream weakening after the winter and plenty of blocking in Canada allowing lows to cutoff underneath.

[LibertyBell]

19 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Flagstaff is a great spot. Super high though, like altitude sickness high. 

90 degree days in the summer and 90 inch snowfall in the winter and the added bonus of being ecologically friendly and not a light pollution mecca like the east coast is.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagstaff,_Arizona

 

Dark Sky City

[edit]

Flagstaff takes one of its nicknames from its designation as the world's first International Dark Sky City, with deliberate measures to reduce light pollution beginning in 1958^[139] supported by the environmentally-aware population and community advocates, government and elected officials, and the assistance of observatories in the area – including the United States Naval Observatory Flagstaff Station and Lowell Observatory.^{[140][141][142][143]}

The city's designation as an International Dark Sky City was on October 24, 2001, by the International Dark-Sky Association, after a proposal by the Flagstaff Dark Skies Coalition to start the recognition program. It is seen as a world precedent in dark sky preservation.^[144] Before this, it had been nicknamed the "Skylight City" in the 1890s, the same decade that the Lowell Observatory was founded.^[145] In 1958, it passed Ordinance 400,^[139] which outlawed using large or powerful searchlights within city limits. In the 1980s a series of measures were introduced for the city and Coconino County, and the Dark Sky Coalition was founded in 1999 by Chris Luginbuhl and Lance Diskan. Luginbuhl is a former U.S. Naval astronomer,^[146] and Diskan had originally moved to Flagstaff from Los Angeles so that his children could grow up able to see stars, saying that "part of being human is looking up at the stars and being awestruck."^[145] It was reported that even though greater restrictions on types of public lighting were introduced in 1989,^[147] requiring them all to be low-emission, some public buildings like gas stations hadn't updated by 2002, after the Dark Sky designation.^[148]

Flagstaff and the surrounding area is split into four zones, each permitted different levels of light emissions. The highest restrictions are in south and west Flagstaff (near NAU and its observatory), and at the Naval, Braeside, and Lowell Observatories.^[56] Photographs detecting emissions taken in 2017 show that Flagstaff's light is 14 times less than another Western city of comparable size, Cheyenne, Wyoming, which Luginbuhl described as "even better than [they] might have expected".^[146]

[LibertyBell]

13 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The jet stream weakening after the winter and plenty of blocking in Canada allowing lows to cutoff underneath.

it sounds like this would also lead to cooler summers.

so we are getting +nao in the winter and -nao in the spring and summer.

Based on this alone I would forecast a +nao next winter with snowfall under 20 inches

the more rain and blocking we get now and into summer the less cold and snow we will have in the winter.

It's a formula that has worked for decades.

 

[vegan_edible]

at this rate i'd rather funnel  water in from long island sound and de-salinate it by hand myself to cure a drought than have it rain again this month

[sussexcountyobs]

1.16" since yesterday afternoon so far.

[MANDA]

Received 1.53" here last 24 hours (8am - 8am) with a weekly total (5/3 - 5/9) of 2.81". 

Rain came down hard at times predawn through about 7am. 

Everything lush and green.

[MANDA]

On this day back in 2020. 
 

 

[LibertyBell]

40 minutes ago, vegan_edible said:

at this rate i'd rather funnel  water in from long island sound and de-salinate it by hand myself to cure a drought than have it rain again this month

you're not wrong, and flooding does no good for anyone.

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, MANDA said:

On this day back in 2020. 
 

 

How much did you get? And did you get more than this on May 9-10, 1977??

[STORMANLI]

45 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

How much did you get? And did you get more than this on May 9-10, 

Trace in both events, melting as it hit the ground.

1977 was pretty much continuous, while 2020 was showery.

[qg_omega]

drought gone for the upstate and should be gone for Northern NJ and NYC area now.

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, STORMANLI said:

Trace in both events, melting as it hit the ground.

1977 was pretty much continuous, while 2020 was showery.

Was the 1977 event mostly during the day?

 

[psv88]

0.79 today and 3.08 in the last week. Wet

[qg_omega]

.75 today, 3.34 in May.  Not dry.

[STORMANLI]

44 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Was the 1977 event mostly during the day?

 

At least late morning into middle afternoon. If I can locate my records, I will be more specific.

[MANDA]

24 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

How much did you get? And did you get more than this on May 9-10, 1977??

Received .40" snowfall with a morning low temperature of 26 degrees.

I was at a funeral down in Trenton in 1977.  I was a young teenager and I remember standing at the cemetery mid morning with a cold wind and a snow squall going on.  Horrible day I try not to remember but can never forget. 

[jm1220]

3 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Flagstaff is a great spot. Super high though, like altitude sickness high. 

Yep and plenty of snow when the pattern supports storms into SoCal. 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, MANDA said:

Received .40" snowfall with a morning low temperature of 26 degrees.

I was at a funeral down in Trenton in 1977.  I was a young teenager and I remember standing at the cemetery mid morning with a cold wind and a snow squall going on.  Horrible day I try not to remember but can never forget. 

That reminds me of an Alfred Hitchcock story about a lady dreaming about her own funeral in May with snow falling and laying a covering over the flowers.  She thought this can't be possible, but that is exactly what happened.

 

[SACRUS]

 

More strong winds tomorrow morning - afternoon.