TheClimateChanger Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: @donsutherland1, what do you think of this projection? When I see a week-long, ensemble average showing an areal anomaly of +3.66F over that big of an area - keep in mind, it's not averaging just the CONUS, but that entire map inset - that looks significant to me. Like possible record-breaking warmth in places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: @donsutherland1, what do you think of this projection? When I see a week-long, ensemble average showing an areal anomaly of +3.66F over that big of an area - keep in mind, it's not averaging just the CONUS, but that entire map inset - that looks significant to me. Like possible record-breaking warmth in places. It's impressive, especially when one considers that the cool anomalies over the Atlantic bring down the areal average. My guess is that near record/record warmth could be possible in the Northern Plains and Canadian Prairies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Wow! Those were legitimate cold months. Surprised 2015 isn't on that short list as well! February 2015 had exceptional warmth in the western third of the CONUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 40 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: I'm not sure what data was used to for the run-up in the price, much less the plunge. I suspect that the dramatic shift in the CFSv2 started the sell-off. The latest ECWMF weeklies were not yet available. In the larger scheme of things, this was not looking like a Top 3 coldest February since 2010 nationwide. Using AmWx's Top 10 forecasters from 2025, here were the expected February numbers: IMO, that consensus consistently beats most of what is posted on Social Media for long-range ideas, perhaps because there is no incentive to hype for clicks, views, etc. Here are the Top 5 coldest Februaries since 2010: #1: 2021 #2: 2010 #3: 2019 Today’s Euro Weeklies are if anything even worse than yesterday’s if you want a cold pattern in the E US. Also, the 10 mb has pulled up somewhat on the mid Feb reversal chance. Cue the folks that say the EW shouldn’t run daily lol, which is irrelevant unless you’d prefer to keep your head in the sand: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, GaWx said: Today’s Euro Weeklies are if anything even worse than yesterday’s if you want a cold pattern in the E US. Also, the 10 mb has pulled up somewhat on the mid Feb reversal chance. Cue the folks that say the EW shouldn’t run daily lol, which is irrelevant unless you’d prefer to keep your head in the sand: Yes, they're definitely a step back (continuing the trend from recent days). I actually prefer the daily data, as one can better evaluate what's happening than if one had to make guesses over 3- and 4-day intervals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 55 minutes ago Share Posted 55 minutes ago 23 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Yes, they're definitely a step back (continuing the trend from recent days). I actually prefer the daily data, as one can better evaluate what's happening than if one had to make guesses over 3- and 4-day intervals. Don, Do you mean the WxBell 850 mb maps? What daily data are you referring to? Be careful with their 2m temp maps because I’ve been saying they’re colder than ECMWF’s in house data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 53 minutes ago Share Posted 53 minutes ago Just now, GaWx said: Don, Do you mean the WxBell 850 mb maps? What daily data are you referring to? Be careful with their 2m temp maps because I’ve been saying they’re colder than ECMWF’s in house data. I was referring to the ECMWF weekly maps in general. I prefer the ECMWF chart to vendors. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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