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Some major damage over the weekend in parts of the area it seems. Saw big branches and debris along I-70 from PA into Maryland.

Looks like things will be relatively quiet - maybe a window for some strong storms next Tue or so. 

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If the NAM Nest and HiResW ARW2 are correct, there would be a MRGL and eventually perhaps a SLGT for Saturday along and east of I-95, but they seem to be outliers with their slower timing and higher dew points (driving good instability with modest deep layer shear).   Since slow timing and overmoistening are clear biases of both systems, it's unfortunately tough to buy their solution.    At this point, I just hope to cash in on some heavier showers Friday evening and overnight.

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8 hours ago, high risk said:

If the NAM Nest and HiResW ARW2 are correct, there would be a MRGL and eventually perhaps a SLGT for Saturday along and east of I-95, but they seem to be outliers with their slower timing and higher dew points (driving good instability with modest deep layer shear).   Since slow timing and overmoistening are clear biases of both systems, it's unfortunately tough to buy their solution.    At this point, I just hope to cash in on some heavier showers Friday evening and overnight.

Other than the storms along the Mason/Dixon line last weekend, it's seemingly been a really, really, really quiet stretch for severe on the east coast. Looks like Tue is going to be focused well to our north and west and it peters out by Wednesday. I'm not sure I'm seeing any appreciable "big signal" to exit the boring period. I've been peaking at the long range stuff and CSU/CIPS/NCAR stuff and don't really see anything on the horizon. Similar to winter, it's possible a smaller event comes into focus once it gets to short range view...but for now we are snoozing! 

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On 4/24/2025 at 11:17 PM, high risk said:

If the NAM Nest and HiResW ARW2 are correct, there would be a MRGL and eventually perhaps a SLGT for Saturday along and east of I-95, but they seem to be outliers with their slower timing and higher dew points (driving good instability with modest deep layer shear).   Since slow timing and overmoistening are clear biases of both systems, it's unfortunately tough to buy their solution.    At this point, I just hope to cash in on some heavier showers Friday evening and overnight.

      The slightly slower solution ended up verifying, and we do have a MRGL along and east of I-95 for this afternoon.    There is actually some good model agreement that a broken line of thunderstorms will form around 2pm very close to I-95 in Maryland and extend at least a bit south of DC on the Virginia side.    Looks like there will be some instability, but deep layer shear looks slightly weaker than it did in earlier progs, so a MRGL seems to be the right call (but a few wind reports are certainly possible, especially further east).

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2 hours ago, high risk said:

      The slightly slower solution ended up verifying, and we do have a MRGL along and east of I-95 for this afternoon.    There is actually some good model agreement that a broken line of thunderstorms will form around 2pm very close to I-95 in Maryland and extend at least a bit south of DC on the Virginia side.    Looks like there will be some instability, but deep layer shear looks slightly weaker than it did in earlier progs, so a MRGL seems to be the right call (but a few wind reports are certainly possible, especially further east).

We’re about to get something 

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20 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

We’re about to get something 

 

10 minutes ago, yoda said:

Pretty decent storm... a bit of thunder and lightning but more gusty winds and torrential downpours 

Only had 3 rumbles of thunder, but briefly very heavy rain and a good gust front on the leading edge. Over 0.5” for the weekend! Need about 10-14” before June 21 to be prepped for death heat.

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Hmmm

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
254 PM EDT Mon May 5 2025

.SYNOPSIS...

A cold front will slowly progress eastward across the region
through Tuesday, then pull offshore Tuesday night. High pressure
will follow briefly for Wednesday. A potent cold front is expected
to move southeast from the eastern Great Lakes to and across the
Mid-Atlantic late in the week. High pressure will likely follow
through the upcoming weekend.

&&

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/...

Isolated severe t-storms will be possible over the next couple
of hours with current scattered activity across the area.
However, it appears the main severe wx potential over the next
12 hours will be tied to the line of convection forming near
Raleigh NC. Shortwave-trough lifting from southwest VA into
western VA and low-level convergence are expected to encourage
more widespread convection early this evening. Latest HREF
fields suggest a broken to solid line of thunderstorms forming
from near Frederick MD south to Fredericksburg. Given cooling
aloft and some rotation already seen on radar, a tornado and
hail threat exist, especially given that shear profiles are
expected to strengthen. The main window for severe wx potential
looks to be between 21Z-02Z.

Convection is expected to weaken or lift north into Pennsylvania
after 02Z.
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Watch potentially coming soon

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   Mesoscale Discussion 0701
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   0429 PM CDT Mon May 05 2025

   Areas affected...Parts of the Mid-Atlantic

   Concerning...Severe potential...Watch possible 

   Valid 052129Z - 052330Z

   Probability of Watch Issuance...60 percent

   SUMMARY...Thunderstorms moving north out of southeast Virginia will
   migrate into a buoyant air mass in place across the DelMarVa region.
   Re-intensification is expected and may result in an uptick in the
   severe hail/wind threat. Watch issuance is being considered to
   address this potential.

   DISCUSSION...A mix of semi-discrete thunderstorms and weakly
   organized linear segments continues to migrate north out of
   southeast VA. While a few stronger cores persist, much of the
   convection currently appears weak/disorganized based on GOES IR
   imagery and MRMS vertical ice/echo top data. However, these storms
   are moving into an environment characterized by better buoyancy
   (MLCAPE between 1000-2000 J/kg) that is in place across the DelMarVa
   region. Consequently, some uptick in intensity is anticipated within
   the next 1-2 hours. Deep-layer wind shear sampled by regional VWPs
   is fairly modest - around 20-25 knots of 0-6 km BWD. However, this
   should be sufficient for a few organized cells and linear segments
   capable of producing damaging winds and 1.0 to 1.5 inch hail.

   ..Moore/Smith.. 05/05/2025

   ...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product...

   ATTN...WFO...PHI...AKQ...CTP...LWX...

   LAT...LON   37687760 38617858 39057882 39307881 39677865 39997827
               40077798 40057760 39837722 39257636 38867603 38407592
               38117592 37777606 37557624 37357656 37357685 37467726
               37687760 

   MOST PROBABLE PEAK TORNADO INTENSITY...UP TO 95 MPH
   MOST PROBABLE PEAK WIND GUST...55-70 MPH
   MOST PROBABLE PEAK HAIL SIZE...1.00-1.75 IN
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Watch up until midnight 

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
   Severe Thunderstorm Watch Number 228
   NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
   600 PM EDT Mon May 5 2025

   The NWS Storm Prediction Center has issued a

   * Severe Thunderstorm Watch for portions of 
     District Of Columbia
     Maryland
     Southern Pennsylvania
     Northern and Eastern Virginia
     Eastern Panhandle West Virginia
     Coastal Waters

   * Effective this Monday night from 600 PM until Midnight EDT.

   * Primary threats include...
     Scattered damaging wind gusts to 70 mph possible
     Scattered large hail events to 1.5 inches in diameter possible
     A tornado or two possible

   SUMMARY...Scattered linear clusters of strong to severe
   thunderstorms will likely develop and move northward into the Watch
   area this evening.  A few of the stronger cellular storms will pose
   a risk for large hail (1 to 1.5 inches in diameter).  A transient
   supercell or two is possible in addition to a couple of line
   segments.  Strong to severe gusts capable of wind damage will be the
   primary hazard with these storms, but a brief tornado is possible
   mainly early this evening with this activity.

   The severe thunderstorm watch area is approximately along and 60
   statute miles east and west of a line from 35 miles east northeast
   of Hagerstown MD to 25 miles southwest of Patuxent River MD. For a
   complete depiction of the watch see the associated watch outline
   update (WOUS64 KWNS WOU8).
 
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6 minutes ago, wawarriors4 said:

Just reported Nickel size hail in the cell that popped up basically over my house in Stafford, near Hartwood, VA.

Just got warned 

BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
Severe Thunderstorm Warning
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
617 PM EDT Mon May 5 2025

The National Weather Service in Sterling Virginia has issued a

* Severe Thunderstorm Warning for...
  Northwestern Stafford County in northern Virginia...
  Southeastern Fauquier County in northern Virginia...
  Southern Prince William County in northern Virginia...

* Until 645 PM EDT.

* At 616 PM EDT, a severe thunderstorm was located 7 miles west of
  Stafford, moving north at 15 mph.

  HAZARD...Quarter size hail.

  SOURCE...A trained weather spotter observed quarter size hail in
           Glendie.

  IMPACT...Some hail damage to agriculture is expected.

* Locations impacted include...
  Heflin, Ruby, Somerville, and Roseville.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a
building.

&&

LAT...LON 3841 7748 3840 7756 3854 7767 3858 7751
TIME...MOT...LOC 2216Z 158DEG 15KT 3842 7754

HAIL THREAT...OBSERVED
MAX HAIL SIZE...1.00 IN
WIND THREAT...RADAR INDICATED
MAX WIND GUST...<50 MPH
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10 minutes ago, yoda said:

Just got warned 

BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
Severe Thunderstorm Warning
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
617 PM EDT Mon May 5 2025

The National Weather Service in Sterling Virginia has issued a

* Severe Thunderstorm Warning for...
  Northwestern Stafford County in northern Virginia...
  Southeastern Fauquier County in northern Virginia...
  Southern Prince William County in northern Virginia...

* Until 645 PM EDT.

* At 616 PM EDT, a severe thunderstorm was located 7 miles west of
  Stafford, moving north at 15 mph.

  HAZARD...Quarter size hail.

  SOURCE...A trained weather spotter observed quarter size hail in
           Glendie.

  IMPACT...Some hail damage to agriculture is expected.

* Locations impacted include...
  Heflin, Ruby, Somerville, and Roseville.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a
building.

&&

LAT...LON 3841 7748 3840 7756 3854 7767 3858 7751
TIME...MOT...LOC 2216Z 158DEG 15KT 3842 7754

HAIL THREAT...OBSERVED
MAX HAIL SIZE...1.00 IN
WIND THREAT...RADAR INDICATED
MAX WIND GUST...<50 MPH

That cell turned out to be wicked, turned into Quarter size hail. Lots of leaves down and a gust to 47 mph. Luckily it has moved North now and seems as if the vehicles didn’t get any damage.

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not only severe, but WPC says flooding could be a concern too:

Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion: #0227
(Issued at 635 PM EDT Mon May 05 2025 )
 
MPD Selection
 
 


Graphic for MPD #0227
Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0227
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
635 PM EDT Mon May 05 2025

Areas affected...portions of eastern VA into the DMV and far
eastern WV

Concerning...Heavy rainfall...Flash flooding possible

Valid 052235Z - 060300Z

Summary...Training convection will be capable of hourly totals of
1-3" with short-term (3-hr) totals as high as 2-4". Isolated to
scattered instances of flash flooding are possible (and may be
locally significant in sensitive urban/mountainous terrain).

Discussion...Radar and GOES-East satellite imagery indicate the
proliferation of convection across portions of eastern VA/NC over
the past several hours, moving fairly rapidly (~25 kts) towards
the N-NE within nearly unidirectional flow on the eastern
periphery of a large, deep layer (850-200 mb) closed low centered
over IL/IN/KY. The mesoscale environment in the vicinity and
downstream of the aforementioned convection is characterized by
SBCAPE of 1000-2000 J/kg, PWATs of 0.8-1.3" (between the 75th and
90th percentile, per IAD sounding climatology), and deep layer
(0-6km shear) of 20-40 kts (per 22z SPC SFCOA analysis). The
strongest cells have been capable of impressive instantaneous
rainfall rates of 3-5"/hr (per MRMS estimates), which has resulted
in estimated hourly rainfall totals of up to 2.5" (where deeper
convective cells have been able to occasionally train, mainly to
the east of I-95 in eastern VA).

Recent hi-res CAMs have not handled the evolution of convection
particularly well, and recent observational trends (including
continued overshooting/cooling cloud tops via GOES-East imagery)
suggest that localized hourly totals of 1-3" will continue to
manifest farther north (into the more sensitive DMV region) with
storm propagation (as a pool of 1500-2000 J/kg of SBCAPE remains
untapped). While both of the hourly updating CAMs (HRRR/RRFS) are
handling the convection poorly, the 18z HREF suite does still give
a good idea of the potential for excessive rainfall through 03z
(with 40-km neighborhood probabilities for 2" and 3" exceedance of
20-30% and ~10%, respectively). Given locally sensitive terrain
(per FFGs as low as 0.75-1.50" and 1.50-2.50" for 1-hr and 3-hr
periods, respectively) over urbanized terrain along and near I-95
and over portions of the Appalachians in the vicinity of northern
VA, western MD, and far eastern WV, isolated to scattered
instances of flash flooding are possible (and may be locally
significant, should 2-4" totals occur over the most sensitive
localities).

Churchill

ATTN...WFO...AKQ...CTP...LWX...RAH...

ATTN...RFC...MARFC...SERFC...NWC...

LAT...LON   39827743 39597667 39037647 37767669 36447699
            36217739 36777738 37437742 38277778 39617833
           
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