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Mid to long range discussion- 2025


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26 minutes ago, Met1985 said:

Positive steps today on the models.  It's not like we aren't seeing Positive trends here. Especially when considering the MJO is moving in the right direction.  Yeah this current weather sucks but hey the colds coming. 

Agree.  Haven't had a chance to look at anything but the 12Z GFS today but the last few panels on the long range look pretty good to me.

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3 minutes ago, BooneWX said:

Shades of last winter. We saw this time and time again where models torched at range, only to come in colder and colder at 0 hour.

Let's hope we get a better end result for foothills areas 

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7 minutes ago, wncsnow said:

Let's hope we get a better end result for foothills areas 

Time will tell. At some point our crew gets to eat too. I still have a good feeling about next month. If we repeat the upcoming pattern later in winter, I won’t be as bullish for CAD regions because it would favor too much suppression. 

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Just now, WinstonSalemArlington said:

It seems like GFS has been depicting year-round longrange torch exaggeration for about two years now. 

I stand by my statements that the GFS should get zero consideration in anything going forward. It’s not useful even from a 500 mb level in the medium range anymore. This summer was an all-time abysmal performance with the tropics and chasing extreme warmth that only happened once. 
 

With that being said, it’s a 2 in a room of 4s. I’m not bragging a bit on the other models. Even the AIFS which sniffed out the cold Dec start has endured a windshield wiper effect. 

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Im not surprised at all with the volatility from basically all the models.  We had an SSW or at least a significant weakening of the PV. We also have the MJO doing its thing and it's a good thing at that. The models have had a really tough time in the mid-range this season. A lot going on in the atmospheric river.

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