J.Spin Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, powderfreak said: It's a full on powder day above mid-mountain. We found 6" at 3,000ft High Road Plot and piling up. It skis like it too... dense with some body. That’s great to hear. It’s been a bit slow over the past week as you’ve noted, with just a couple inches here and there, but this should give us a bit more to play with. It’s the Northern Greens, and it’s only March, so it’s good to see an uptick with still April to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Unexpectedly dumping snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 Snowing decently here but marginal temps mean it's more Snow TV than anything substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, alex said: Unexpectedly dumping snow! Nice but why unexpected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Got 2.5-3” at 1500ft but starting to melt back now… dripping off the branches. Sun trying to poke through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Nice but why unexpected March has really sucked aside from the one storm (which was good). I think most of us have shifted our thinking into spring mode at this point. Nice to see snow again, but it's just window dressing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Nice but why unexpected I meant unexpected because the forecast had a 40% chance of a mix of rain/snow… and given recent trends I just assumed some light rain showers. Nice to see the heavy squalls! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Sun with snow and rain showers 40F. Ending the season at 55" is pathetic. I might as well stayed in Metro Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 39F light snow shower We have some friends that live about 1 mile south of me and around 1600 feet elevation. They offered to share their webcam with me. They look NW over Newfound Lake as I am 500 feet lower and face SW. I am really going to like this new cam especially with thunderstorms and snow levels. Nice view even right now. Can't see my house but is around the X mark. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 Conditions today are sort of like old freezer-burned ice cream left out on the countertop to thaw for a while. Would be pretty good if it was 70 and I was in a t-shirt though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, PhineasC said: Conditions today are sort of like old freezer-burned ice cream left out on the countertop to thaw for a while. Would be pretty good if it was 70 and I was in a t-shirt though. 9 years ago our bud TB lol. No way was I taking my shirt off. He, burned 87 degrees in the sun. We call that snow condition butter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 5 hours ago, powderfreak said: It's a full on powder day above mid-mountain. We found 6" at 3,000ft High Road Plot and piling up. It skis like it too... dense with some body. I headed up to Bolton for a midday session, so I can pass along some snow observations. I started out with a tour up to the Wilderness Summit at ~3,150’, and someone had also broken trail up Ricker Mountain, so I followed that for a bit and probably topped out around 3,300’. The powder skiing was great, so I hung around for some lift-served laps as well. It was snowing all the way down to the valley floor, but accumulations didn’t start until ~1,000’. Here’s the accumulations profile I found around midday: 340’: 0” 1,000’: T 1,200’: 1” 1,500’: 2” 2,000’: 4” 2,500’: 5” 3,000’: 6” 3,300’: 6”+ Once above the 2,000’ level, there weren’t any massive increases in accumulations that I saw, just sort of slow, steady increase, as the profile shows. The powder was meaty like you said, so powder turns were great. The snowfall ranged from huge, pounding flakes, to lighter episodes where the snow continued, but the sky would brighten. It was really pounding when I left, and made me want to stay for another run or two. I’m not sure if it can keep up at today’s snowfall pace overnight, but tomorrow would obviously be another great day if it did. I’ll put together some images and a bit more info when I get a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 A dense 3.5” at the 1500ft plot at Barnes Camp to end the day. There’s some QPF meat in this. Its definitely back to winter in the base area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Just now, powderfreak said: A dense 3.5” at the 1500ft plot at Barnes Camp to end the day. There’s some QPF meat in this. Its definitely back to winter in the base area. Nice. Nothing like that here, maybe an inch or two at 3000’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Looks blocked on BTV even at higher tilts. Probably changes tonight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Looks blocked on BTV even at higher tilts. Probably changes tonight though. It’s super blocked right now. Just flurries leaving the mountain and can see all the way to the ridge line. VAD usually tells the story… most veering in the lowest 4,000ft with sharp NW flow under a more general W to even slightly SW flow aloft. Not a strong flow either, just gently sloshing air in the Champlain Valley off the flat lake plain and into the foothills… but enough to rip out some good precip there upstream of the barrier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 I don't keep the best records, but I can't think of any other year when my backyard was virtually snow free by March 25th. Kind of wild to compare now to this time in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jculligan Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 On the plane back from the Durrand Glacier Chalet in British Columbia. They aren't hurting for a snowpack there... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Turned into a cold snowy evening. Feels like winter again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, eekuasepinniW said: I don't keep the best records, but I can't think of any other year when my backyard was virtually snow free by March 25th. Kind of wild to compare now to this time in 2008. 29F with snow squalls. About 1/2" 2008 was a special year. Over 130" of snow in my area. Many roof collapses. We had to keep shoveling our roof. I made some videos from that winter see below. The first one is from March 1 and then there are more in March and April. Still so much snow even in April. We feed the deer that year as they couldn't barely get through the snow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, jculligan said: On the plane back from the Durrand Glacier Chalet in British Columbia. They aren't hurting for a snowpack there... That's awesome. Bet that was a fun trip. Feel free to share some other shots once you get settled back home, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwt3650 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: It’s super blocked right now. Just flurries leaving the mountain and can see all the way to the ridge line. VAD usually tells the story… most veering in the lowest 4,000ft with sharp NW flow under a more general W to even slightly SW flow aloft. Not a strong flow either, just gently sloshing air in the Champlain Valley off the flat lake plain and into the foothills… but enough to rip out some good precip there upstream of the barrier. Ok…can you explain this to the lees knowledge (me)…I get the blocked flow and Froude number, but what am I looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jculligan Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, powderfreak said: That's awesome. Bet that was a fun trip. Feel free to share some other shots once you get settled back home, ha. Here's a few! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 37 minutes ago, bwt3650 said: Ok…can you explain this to the lees knowledge (me)…I get the blocked flow and Froude number, but what am I looking at? You're looking at the velocity aziumuth display (VAD) from KCXX. It's an attempt by the radar to estimate horizontal wind over time at different heights above the radar. You look back in time to the left and height increases as you go up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, powderfreak said: A dense 3.5” at the 1500ft plot at Barnes Camp to end the day. There’s some QPF meat in this. Its definitely back to winter in the base area. It’s back to winter indeed. Even with your timely snow updates providing knowledge of how much snow fell and how it was skiing on Mansfield, you really never know quite how it’s going to be until you get up there. I’d seen Bolton’s initial morning report of 1-3” in the 2,000’-3,000’ elevation range, so when I found 2” at the Timberline Base at 1,500’ on the way up the Access Road, I knew the accumulations had been increasing through the morning. I detailed the accumulations profile in my previous post, but this was one of those days where it was definitely nice to be able to start touring above 2,000’ with the elevation dependence. As of midday, there was already a solid resurfacing of the low angle terrain, so aside from any scoured areas, the powder on that terrain was skiing beautifully. Even low-angle terrain that had been skier packed was excellent, so this new snow had adhered nicely to the subsurface. On one of my lift-served runs, I saw this in play with the quiet turns of skiers on Bear Run and Sprig O’ Pine as I passed over on the Vista Quad. I’m not sure how much liquid equivalent has been put down at elevation with this storm, since we’re certainly not getting as much liquid down here in the valley as the mountains are. We’ve had about 0.12” of liquid from this event down here, but based on how the powder turns felt today, the mountains had probably seen 0.3-0.5” up high as of midday? That’s an estimate of course, and PF can weigh in with his thoughts. Anyway, medium angle terrain was a mixed bag in terms of sufficient resurfacing. In areas of untracked powder over at Wilderness, I was generally getting bottomless turns even up to some single black terrain. There were some great turns in areas that hadn’t been scoured. When I was over skiing the lift-served terrain on Vista though, you were definitely getting down to the old base on the blues and blacks – there certainly hasn’t been enough liquid equivalent put down with this event to hold up to those levels of skier traffic. But in terms of not quite knowing what it’s going to be like until you get there, today definitely delivered. The quality kept me around for some lift-served runs even after touring, although I was able to connect over to parts of Wilderness on those runs for powder laps. Overall, the snow was great, and so was the scenery, since it was often pounding snow with big flakes, but the light levels were pretty high because it’s now late March. A few shots from the day: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: You're looking at the velocity aziumuth display (VAD) from KCXX. It's an attempt by the radar to estimate horizontal wind over time at different heights above the radar. You look back in time to the left and height increases as you go up. Can't beat that explanation. It's the best tool I use in real time to associate with upslope precipitation. There are always subtle hints in that product that explain why precip is occurring where it is. Wind flow is 100% the key to precipitation generation around these parts on mesoscale levels. Getting to look at a vertical slice of perceived wind directly over BTV is one helluva tool. I've been looking at that for a decade or more and comparing it to the orographic signal... that product and vertical profile of airflow is critical to understanding upslope snow. The elevation that the winds veer matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Can't beat that explanation. It's the best tool I use in real time to associate with upslope precipitation. There are always subtle hints in that product that explain why precip is occurring where it is. Wind flow is 100% the key to precipitation generation around these parts on mesoscale levels. Getting to look at a vertical slice of perceived wind directly over BTV is one helluva tool. I've been looking at that for a decade or more and comparing it to the orographic signal... that product and vertical profile of airflow is critical to understanding upslope snow. The elevation that the winds veer matters. CXX for all it's siting issues is actually in a great location for the VAD and upslope snow. Like GYX is relatively useless for what is going on at Pittsburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: CXX for all it's siting issues is actually in a great location for the VAD and upslope snow. Like GYX is relatively useless for what is going on at Pittsburg. Need one at MPV. Would everything from spine of the Greens east to the Whites, including the NEK and Coos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3” overnight with thick dust falling. Huge differences locally, kids school in Whitefield barely has a dusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Event totals: 2.0” Snow/0.19” L.E. Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 1.3 inches New Liquid: 0.06 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 21.7 Snow Density: 4.6% H2O Temperature: 12.0 F Sky: Light Snow (1 mm flakes) Snow at the stake: 1.5 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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