A-L-E-X Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Wow, 1.65" on the EC... that's incredible... glad I stayed up to see it. BTW, I'm getting snow from this system right now Good, I hope you sampled some data and submitted it for the models to ingest, Ray It looks like your enthusiasm for a major snowstorm has increased considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHurricane Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 This is NOT the place for people to discuss their options to go on a cruise...take it to chat or OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Tombo, Thanks,excellent job with the precip map and all your great posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonClaw Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I can barely make out where anything is on that map. I like that 1027 high hiding in the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zir0b Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 WOW...forget the snow amounts...take a look at the LLJ the Euro is depicting over NYC/NJ! Would be a destructive Nor'easter! that's 75+ knots if I'm not mistaken Thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Not to sound like a weenie here or anything... but isn't there some kind of meteorological rule/statistic that if we get a big storm in december, we also get a big storm in february? I think that rule only applied to El Nino, but I could be misremembering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I think I just died for about 6 seconds. The consistency of the Euro amazes me even more than the extreme solution its depicting. Still 4-5 days out though, so can't get too excited yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Kaner... who goes on a cruise in Alaska in December anyway??? Yeah, that would be like staying in Elko for this storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 WOW...forget the snow amounts...take a look at the LLJ the Euro is depicting over NYC/NJ! Would be a destructive Nor'easter! that's 75+ knots if I'm not mistaken Thoughts?? Verbatim a TRUE blizzard (possibly minus temp requirements) for NJ/NYC. 10-20" with at least 20-30mph winds...fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 The best part about this 12Z run of the EURO is not that it held serve (actually got even better with track and qpf), but that every other major model at 12Z has shifted dramatically from a suppressed/further south outcome to a more wound up system much closer to resembling the EURO and it's solution the past 4 runs. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 First, great play-by-play and color commentary by Tom and Alpha5 ... thanks guys! Second, if, IF the outcome of this storm is more along the lines of the GFS rather than the Euro, I would think it would be one of the biggest Euro busts ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Woops, my bad Kaner... Anyway, what snow weenie in their right mind goes on a Caribbean cruise during snow season??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 So the Euro gives us an epic hit while all the other models brush us or miss to the east. I pray the Euro scores an incredible victory, rather than going down in flames. Amazing how consistent it has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 First, great play-by-play and color commentary by Tom and Alpha5 ... thanks guys! Second, if, IF the outcome of this storm is more along the lines of the GFS rather than the Euro, I would think it would be one of the biggest Euro busts ever. I've already stated elsewhere that if the EC busts on this, I would lose a great deal of respect for it. Now, even more so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 lol wish i could...I would be committed (to a mental hospital) if I decided to stay home. But I agree tracking it is 50% of the fun and I'll have internet the whole time so I'll def be keeping track of whats going on. I am still hoping this is a BECS for all you guys that will be here for it but I will say one thing; If the King is dethroned I will be beyond happy I am not here for the whiff. Speaking of hospital, you need to get sick-- and quickly. Catch the flu or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 WOW...forget the snow amounts...take a look at the LLJ the Euro is depicting over NYC/NJ! Would be a destructive Nor'easter! that's 75+ knots if I'm not mistaken Thoughts?? Looks like a little piece of 75-85 knots in CNJ which would be insane if half that makes it to the surface. Even if a third made it to the surface that would still be 35mph winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I don't like that precip numbers became less and more tight back here...gives me a feeling of unease. I wouldn't worry about it dude, a 970s low riding right up the east coast is going to crush anyone within a couple hundred miles of the track. Plus further west you are talking about lower temps during the storm, so higher ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 So the Euro gives us an epic hit while all the other models brush us or miss to the east. I pray the Euro scores an incredible victory, rather than going down in flames. Amazing how consistent it has been. GEM and especially the GFS trended toward the EC today so it may well be an massive EC victory. We'll have to call it "VE" day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptb127 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Doesn't look too bad back here but not that much QPF.. greatest to least pink 2.5-3 red 2-2.5 orange 1.75-2 whitish gray 1.5-1.75 lgt blue 1.25-1.5 blue 1-1.25 yellow .75-1 gray .5-.75 turquoise .25-.5 lgt black .1-.25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 So the Euro gives us an epic hit while all the other models brush us or miss to the east. I pray the Euro scores an incredible victory, rather than going down in flames. Amazing how consistent it has been. Yup, although the GFS and UKMET did come a bit west at 12z so maybe there coming towards the Euro as well. The GFS certainly was much better with the northern stream digging OT: Can anyone get into their PM system? Mine seems to be down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 i missed 12/2000 and christmas 2002 and only minor events otherwise. In 15 years of going on vacation over dec or feb (dec the past 10 yrs) I've only missed one major storm. It was only a matter of time i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Verbatim a TRUE blizzard (possibly minus temp requirements) for NJ/NYC. 10-20" with at least 20-30mph winds...fun! yeah. 32 degrees to get snow... THERE ARE NO TEMP REQUIREMENTS FOR A BLIZZARD! just 1/4mile visibility and sustained 35mph winds/gusts for a 3hr time period i do believe there is a "cold blizzard" but thats another subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 GEM and especially the GFS trended toward the EC today so it may well be an massive EC victory. We'll have to call it "VE" day and the NAM trended west also. Good day today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 lol wish i could...I would be committed (to a mental hospital) if I decided to stay home. But I agree tracking it is 50% of the fun and I'll have internet the whole time so I'll def be keeping track of whats going on. I am still hoping this is a BECS for all you guys that will be here for it but I will say one thing; If the King is dethroned I will be beyond happy I am not here for the whiff. Dont worry your car and house will still be burried when you get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Could anyone post on timing....perhaps start times south to north.....pick major cities......as well end time. Critical info IMO......sounds like NJ is in the cross hairs in the Sunday night range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Yeah, that would be like staying in Elko for this storm Fortunately that is NOT happening, whether the storm comes or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 yeah. 32 degrees to get snow... THERE ARE NO TEMP REQUIREMENTS FOR A BLIZZARD! just 1/4mile visibility and sustained 35mph winds/gusts for a 3hr time period i do believe there is a "cold blizzard" but thats another subject. I think Severe Blizzard is the next stage up from Blizzard, but the temp requirements were dropped from both. Just a matter of getting the wind and visibility for three straight hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Do I dare say January, 1996 ????? Rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpantz Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Been KU-flipping this afternoon and can't seem to find an obvious analog at 500mb. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 If this were to verify, this could be one of the strongest storms to impact the East Coast during a Strong La Nina winter. We have nice pacific ridge when we need it, and if the Euro is right, which seems to be since it has been the most consistent, then the pattern produced when it had the chance to. What an amazing run, for the 5th time in a row. Awesommeneessss!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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