dryslot Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Holy fuk on the cold on the GFS nearing all time record low 850s It just reloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, WxBlue said: You know it's cold when the 510 line make it all the way to North Carolina. Congrats PF, geezus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Met question, this is sick sounding from interior Eastern Canada says dendritic growth zone -12/-17 does this mean snowflakes are forming at the surface? The DGZ is the temp range where you get max dendritic crystal growth...that -12C to -18C layer. The snow crystals will grow in varying arrangements and size at any sufficient temperature/supersaturation below freezing though. "Sufficient" meaning cold enough to produce ice nuclei. That sounding kinda sucks for snow growth because the entire max DGZ is below the ground. Where you have saturation and lift the temps are in the -30s Celcius. That's going to give you small crystals in the shape of prisms, columns, and bullets...i.e. lower ratio and sugar like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, dryslot said: That was a head scratcher the last couple days to have this tucked in close to the coast and tracking inland only to have it shift 500 miles east in a couple runs, H5 maps had a lot of variation to them as the models try to sort this all out, Better sampling should give us a clearer picture over the next couple days but you have to like where it seems to be heading right now. Jeff, are you familiar with the Dec 30, 1962 event? Steve will appreciate this...one of three coastals to form along an arctic boundary, which contributed to absolutely prodigious snows just to the west of the arctic front, protruding to the north of the low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Ukie!!!! Right near the coast Map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowLover22 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: Map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: Map? This site is not allowing me to upload any photos. Low his near nantucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Philadelphia Snow said: Figured there was a catch....its weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Holy fuk on the cold on the GFS nearing all time record low 850s Slingshots the PV right into the picnic tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: Figured there was a catch....its weak. 999mb for the d6 Ukie is basically an open wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, dendrite said: The DGZ is the temp range where you get max dendritic crystal growth...that -12C to -18C layer. The snow crystals will grow in varying arrangements and size at any sufficient temperature/supersaturation below freezing though. "Sufficient" meaning cold enough to produce ice nuclei. That sounding kinda sucks for snow growth because the entire max DGZ is below the ground. Where you have saturation and lift the temps are in the -30s Celcius. That's going to give you small crystals in the shape of prisms, columns, and bullets...i.e. lower ratio and sugar like. Diamond dust for days. Holy cold incoming Thanks Another all time record low 850 for ALB like Feb 14/2016 the current record of 30.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Jeff, are you familiar with the Dec 30, 1962 event? Steve will appreciate this...one of three coastals to form along an arctic boundary, which contributed to absolutely prodigious snows just to the west of the arctic front, protruding to the north of the low. No, Not without looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Figured there was a catch....its weak. I'd hit that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Jeff, are you familiar with the Dec 30, 1962 event? Steve will appreciate this...one of three coastals to form along an arctic boundary, which contributed to absolutely prodigious snows just to the west of the arctic front, protruding to the north of the low. Tamarack and Jerry's favorite, feet in NJ. Anafrontal city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: I'd hit that Check that high to the north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Tamarack and Jerry's favorite, feet in NJ. Anafrontal city 25.5" at BGR with flurries forecast................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Tamarack and Jerry's favorite, feet in NJ. Anafrontal city No, it crushed central-eastern Maine The other two examples are Blizz of 1888, and Novie 1950 bomb. That is pretty much the only thing left on my bucket list, now that I got my Christmas snow storm....one of those arctic boundary mutants. Rare breed- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: No, it crushed central-eastern Maine The other two examples are Blizz of 1888, and Novie 1950 bomb. That is pretty much the only thing left on my bucket list, now that I got my Christmas snow storm....one of those arctic boundary mutants. Rare breed- Oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: No, it crushed central-eastern Maine The other two examples are Blizz of 1888, and Novie 1950 bomb. That is pretty much the only thing left on my bucket list, now that I got my Christmas snow storm....one of those arctic boundary mutants. Rare breed- What’d you get in Mar 93? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, dendrite said: What’d you get in Mar 93? 15", ending as sleet....then slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 What I remember about December 1962 is severe cold that didn’t produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, weathafella said: What I remember about December 1962 is severe cold that didn’t produce. Yes...whiffed us, crushed eastern ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I am still amazed by the cold on the GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yes...whiffed us, crushed eastern ME. I’m not sure I’d favor it... but something like that is definitely in play. Canadian clips James but then crushes eastern Maine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: I’m not sure I’d favor it... but something like that is definitely in play. Canadian clips James but then crushes eastern Maine I wasn't using it as an analog....I was just toying with the notion of this attaching itself to the arctic front....but that's a question for a closer range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 Walk right in by the rooftop singers climbed the charts to number 1. I was excited about the cold. The original uncle wethbee was talking about the big vortex in eastern Canada. I was hoping for snow but alas-no soap. The following late December was also kind of cold. I had a date NYE and I remember walking across town with snow squeaking under my feet. A lot of cold December’s in the late 50s to mid 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 And GFS is sensing something in the trend. Plucked a 6 for BOS in MEX guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, weathafella said: And GFS is sensing something in the trend. Plucked a 6 for BOS in MEX guidance. Same here Jer, Interest piqued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, dryslot said: Same here Jer, Interest piqued. Interestingly enough, 8s for ORH/ORE and less for the Cape and islands probably temperature related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, weathafella said: Interestingly enough, 8s for ORH/ORE and less for the Cape and islands probably temperature related? Sounds like maybe a track closer to the coast like a couple days back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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