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The 2016-17 Ski Season Thread


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Last day at Stowe yesterday.  I love this community...so passionate.  What a way to end the season with several hundred people up top at 4pm when the last chairs of the season were coming in.  The tradition is to throw snowballs at the last chair...which morphed into pelting the last 10 minutes worth of chairs with snowballs.

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really was a nice day to close out the lift service.  My favorite day --- ok top 5 day --- is the first Saturday in May. Provided its sunny I can usually get a really good ski in, play some golf and then watch the Kentucky Derby.  Yes, that's about the most whitebread day one can have, but its a heck of a fun day. 

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2 hours ago, mreaves said:

I was thinking the same thing.

My point is that water rates will always stay high even if CA became a flood zone and water was abundent. Once the govt gets their money, it's not like they are going to reduce rates cause they are too used to getting what they get. I laugh at our fedex/ups fuel surcharges we still pay. Gas is way lower than it was, yet we will pay the surcharge as if nothing changed. 

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12 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

My point is that water rates will always stay high even if CA became a flood zone and water was abundent. Once the govt gets their money, it's not like they are going to reduce rates cause they are too used to getting what they get. I laugh at our fedex/ups fuel surcharges we still pay. Gas is way lower than it was, yet we will pay the surcharge as if nothing changed. 

My point was that the water situation in much of the West is undependable because of the inherent climate of the region and the cost should not drop simply from one abnormally wet year.

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7 minutes ago, mreaves said:

My point was that the water situation in much of the West is undependable because of the inherent climate of the region and the cost should not drop simply from one abnormally wet year.

California has yet to experience their true potential for drought as well....we see it all over the news when they have a "bad" 2-3 year drought like 1976-1977 and 2013-2015....those look like child's play compared to some of the droughts they had not too long ago during the 1000-1600 time span.

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5 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

California has yet to experience their true potential for drought as well....we see it all over the news when they have a "bad" 2-3 year drought like 1976-1977 and 2013-2015....those look like child's play compared to some of the droughts they had not too long ago during the 1000-1600 time span.

Our now President said last summer there was no drought in California... so yeah California has a long way to go to seeing an actual drought ;).

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Speaking of ca water, have any of you been following the oroville dam situation?  That is crazy what they have done since the spillway failed.  They removed 1.6m cubic yards of debris in a matter of weeks so they could get the hydroelectric plant running.  And now they're running the spillway so they can drain the lake enough to start working on the new spillway in hopes of getting it mostly done by November.

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I've been skinning and skiing every day, trying to get in different trails each day as you never know how much longer they will be around.  There's still probably a half dozen options for top-to-bottom turns on Mansfield but options get much bigger above 2,500ft.  Natural snow trails and even tree-skiing possible above that, particularly in the Nosedive region.

Nosedive view today with woods skiable on either side still.

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Cliff Trail here is a natural snow trail that's hanging in nicely.  I didn't ski this one but might do it tomorrow.

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Centerline to North Slope yesterday.

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Down low its snowmaking all the way.

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A run through the glades between Goat and Nosedive on Thursday...

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On 4/29/2017 at 5:35 PM, powderfreak said:

Jay Peak still open this weekend but I was surprised at how much bare ground (walking required apparently) they had given they got 120" more snow than we did at Stowe ;).

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Soooooooo much of that had to be super low density fluff which melts super fast. There is a reason the Serra snow packs last so long 

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12 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Soooooooo much of that had to be super low density fluff which melts super fast. There is a reason the Serra snow packs last so long 

Oh there's certainly a lot of fluff but it's debatable if 500" fell regardless of type of sow.  

I had 375" and there was fluff and there were also a lot of dense graupel type stuff over 27" of liquid in the pack back in early April there).  Still 3 feet on the ground where the 375" was measured but covered in pine needles and debris.  Filthy snow.

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One thing I like to do is look for mountains that could have epic ski runs. Mt. Equinox near Manchester VT is by far my favorite. That thing goes from 3800 to below 1000. Another good one is Mt Greylock the highest point in mass and the southern greens highest peak. (Extreme southern, it's close to the Berkshires but it's definitely a green) the eastern side has a nice gradual drop.  Can you imagine it's the 50s and you could set up a resort where you wanted given enough money? Anyone else ever think about this? 

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4 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

One thing I like to do is look for mountains that could have epic ski runs. Mt. Equinox near Manchester VT is by far my favorite. That thing goes from 3800 to below 1000. Another good one is Mt Greylock the highest point in mass and the southern greens highest peak. (Extreme southern, it's close to the Berkshires but it's definitely a green) the eastern side has a nice gradual drop.  Can you imagine it's the 50s and you could set up a resort where you wanted given enough money? Anyone else ever think about this? 

I'm not a skier but I actually think about things like this, especially when I am snowmobiling through a particularly snowy area. The area of Groton State Forest in NE VT comes to mind. Not an area of great vertical but it has some and gets a lot of snow. Great retention too as there are quite a few NE facing aspects. 

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