ORH_wxman Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Well it probably depends where you are, lol. The two lows definitely didn't help folks from BDL to ORH. Had this system been one big wound up beast it may have looked like the CRAS had with big snows back to Albany. The dual lows definitely had a part in keeping the second low further east than if it had been one big bombing storm south of SNE. Yep, the dual low absolutely hurt the westward circulation of this system...normally a low track on these mid-level features would prodce good snow much further west than is occurring. You can see how narrow the midlevel ciruclation is...because it is elongated. And why is it elongated? Well because of the dual low structure stretching out the height field from north to south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yep, the dual low absolutely hurt the westward circulation of this system...normally a low track on these mid-level features would prodce good snow much further west than is occurring. You can see how narrow the midlevel ciruclation is...because it is elongated. And why is it elongated? Well because of the dual low structure stretching out the height field from north to south. Yeah I just noted the same thing... exceedingly narrow and unusual actually... This really "could" have done like you say and been more plump out to the Berks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yeah I just noted the same thing... exceedingly narrow and unusual actually... This really "could" have done like you say and been more plump out to the Berks Yeah John, I think the lack of easterly component to the mid-levels is why its so narrow. You see the wind barbs go from south to north on the east sde of the mid-level low...then do almost a hairpin turn and go back south on the backside of the low. There's no longer fetch of easterly mid-level flow which is what you get in a more conventional coastal system...this one is elongated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yep, the dual low absolutely hurt the westward circulation of this system...normally a low track on these mid-level features would prodce good snow much further west than is occurring. You can see how narrow the midlevel ciruclation is...because it is elongated. And why is it elongated? Well because of the dual low structure stretching out the height field from north to south. Yeah that low track and mid level track should've crushed interior SNE maybe up to Brian. Might have also run the risk though of too much warm air advected east if it bombed too early off the mid-Atlantic coast. But certainly this would've been a much bigger ticket event had all that vorticity and the H5 trough balled up into one storm. Lowest heights on record for this time of year so far southeast...could've been a monster storm.But worked out well for the extreme coast and SE Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yeah John, I think the lack of easterly component to the mid-levels is why its so narrow. You see the wind barbs go from south to north on the east sde of the mid-level low...then do almost a hairpin turn and go back south on the backside of the low. There's no longer fetch of easterly mid-level flow which is what you get in a more conventional coastal system...this one is elongated. Exactly... and I was also wondering if it is robbing some mechanic from this thing because of that extreme torque rounding those end points like that. If this thing had been more typically structured that a better integration of DPVA mechanics might have been interesting. Hmm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Just to underscore the points we've been observing about this odd-ball ... how many times does it dry slot just E of NE Maine and it can't do anything in Worcester.. wow. It's amazing what extents the atmosphere will go to ensure a butt bangin' hhahah... J/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 And ground too warm to accumulate.Hopefully when this all melts it'll help to lower those soil temps. Then maybe it'll accumulate for the next storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hopefully when this all melts it'll help to lower those soil temps. Then maybe it'll accumulate for the next storm.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxjim207 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 In the greater Brunswick/Bath Maine area I have so far counted via the scanner over 100 crashes, slide offs and trees on wires or wires down calls. Dispatch centers are backed up with many calls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Mass State Police Facebook page has a lot of snow photos from around Foxboro before the football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 In the greater Brunswick/Bath Maine area I have so far counted via the scanner over 100 crashes, slide offs and trees on wires or wires down calls. Dispatch centers are backed up with many calls! How much do you have in Brunswick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Kevin's absolutely loving this storm ... Notice the high energy positive contribution from him all morning/day, best storm in years for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Kevin's absolutely loving this storm ... Notice the high energy positive contribution from him all morning/day, best storm in years for him... He probably no longer has a computer or phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The weather industry should start naming all storms by some realistic characterization of their impact potential/scoring... Like, Katrina should be called "Hurricane Dip Schit Geographical Thinking For A City". Or how about Andrew (1992), as "Hurricane Dade County Denuder". This extends into nor' easters too. Although I'm torn on this one, as to whether "Missed By A Pube", or "Stole A Weeks Worth Of Time From Followers" ... I guess either could apply aptly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Well it probably depends where you are, lol. The two lows definitely didn't help folks from BDL to ORH. Had this system been one big wound up beast it may have looked like the CRAS had with big snows back to Albany. The dual lows definitely had a part in keeping the second low further east than if it had been one big bombing storm south of SNE.except the original argument was wave interference would not allow bombogenisis and the pattern was too progressive, nothing about structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 This extends into nor' easters too. Although I'm torn on this one, as to whether "Missed By A Pube", or "Stole A Weeks Worth Of Time From Followers" ... I guess either could apply aptly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 except the original argument was wave interference would not allow bombogenisis and the pattern was too progressive, nothing about structure. Just think of what could have been had there not been duel lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Just think of what could have been had there not been duel lows.No lows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 No lows? One monster low instead of trying to spread all that energy between two. It would've been hammer time with a strong WCB and trailing CCB. What a H5 trough though to still be able to produce such a strong follow-up low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Just think of what could have been had there not been duel lows.ask the folks in downeast Maine. This was outside the BM , it's a bomb sharp NW cutoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Just think of what could have been had there not been duel lows. Well at least it's just November 2nd, and if this pattern continues, we should have many more opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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