SpartyOn Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Your Words in God Ears! LOL Epic storm IMO...anything over 15" I would gladly take a 99 style blizzard again. That was the best system to date. Nothing I have seen so far even comes close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Epic storm IMO...anything over 15" I would gladly take a 99 style blizzard again. That was the best system to date. Nothing I have seen so far even comes close. That was a good storm! My second favorite. Drifting was almost as severe as the GHDB. The major difference with the GHDB was that there was already 8-10" of snow on the ground, before the New Years 99 storm there was about 1-2" on the ground! NAO looks to got negative next weekend and stay down for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Wow, each ensemble run keeps on pushing the arctic jet further and further north. If this was December or January, people would be having a fit lol.Instead, we love it now. 95% of us would it rather be under 20 degrees and 2 feet of snow. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Wow, each ensemble run keeps on pushing the arctic jet further and further north. If this was December or January, people would be having a fit lol. Instead, we love it now. FWIW. The 12z euro showed a continuation of the pacific flow dominance. It looks like Pac Man is eating troughs in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Anyways, if we're going to have some sort of GOA low, who is up for a December 2010 repeat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 The GOA isn't always the kiss of death when it's combined with some other favorable blocking. Like u just stated winter 2010/2011 is a good example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Anyways, if we're going to have some sort of GOA low, who is up for a December 2010 repeat? You can sign me up for that. That December-mid Jan was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Anyways, if we're going to have some sort of GOA low, who is up for a December 2010 repeat? Yeah I'd take a repeat of that month! Must have been a -NAO, +AO that month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yeah I'd take a repeat of that month! Must have been a -NAO, +AO that month. -AO. Extremely so. Matter of fact, second lowest December reading since 1950. Dec 2009: -3.413 Dec 2010: -2.631 Dec 2000: -2.354 Dec 1995: -2.127 Dec 1976: -2.074 Pipeline that month was MSP to the QC to LAF to CVG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 -AO. Extremely so. Matter of fact, second lowest December reading since 1950. Dec 2009: -3.413 Dec 2010: -2.631 Dec 2000: -2.354 Dec 1995: -2.127 Dec 1976: -2.074 Pipeline that month was MSP to the QC to LAF to CVG. Ok. For some I thought those low heights were signaling positive for the AO. It makes sense that the AO is negative with lower heights spread out like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 On the flip side, talking AO, here's the highest December values. Dec 2006: +2.282 Dec 2011: +2.221 Dec 1951: +1.987 Dec 1988: +1.679 Dec 1992: +1.627 Only 2006 and 2011 were torches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I wonder why I havent seen the latest CFS maps posted in a few days? Oh wait...thats because the latest run has a cold December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Don't waste your time looking at the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I wonder why I havent seen the latest CFS maps posted in a few days? Oh wait...thats because the latest run has a cold December. Looks average for us, I'll take it... We can't expect 2000-2011 winters every year, but compared to last winter... normal will be fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Looks average for us, I'll take it... We can't expect 2000-2011 winters every year, but compared to last winter... normal will be fine by me. The CFS actually has a run every day...and its as wacky and changeable as the GFS. Todays run has us in -2 to -3F departure for Dec with much colder departures to our west and south. In the last few weeks it has had runs that would produce everything from one of the warmest Dec's on record to one of the coldest lol. I brought it up because everytime it looks very torchy we have those maps posted in this thread...but when it looks cold, nada. And I agree 100%. As much as Id love anything from 2007-08 thru 2010-11, I am totally fine with normal after 2011-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Wow. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Probably some record breaking warmth coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Wow. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'll compliment that with a triple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well if it's gonna be warmer than normal, might as well make it interesting and get some record temps in here. Kind of reminds me of late '98. I guess that means we can go ahead and pencil in another New Years blizzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'll compliment that with a triple Do not forget guys...these CFS maps change, sometimes dramatically, on a DAILY basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Watching paint dry > Tropical's Postings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 -AO. Extremely so. Matter of fact, second lowest December reading since 1950. Dec 2009: -3.413 Dec 2010: -2.631 Dec 2000: -2.354 Dec 1995: -2.127 Dec 1976: -2.074 Pipeline that month was MSP to the QC to LAF to CVG. And yet, I would've sacrificed that whole month to be 50-75 miles farther north for GHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well if it's gonna be warmer than normal, might as well make it interesting and get some record temps in here. Kind of reminds me of late '98. I guess that means we can go ahead and pencil in another New Years blizzard. Yuck to record temps. Torching is horrible, but a little warmer than normal isnt necessarily bad for us in the north, can still get a nice snowstorm (this pertains more to Jan/Feb...but in Dec too somewhat). Id really like lots of winter weather Dec 15-25 as Im on vacation and have a lot of Christmas-related plans, and Christmas always goes better with snow! But I cant say it enough again, NEVER take CFS with more than a grain of salt. This mornings CFS run for December has me at about -2to-3F departure for December and you at -6F or so. i cant post it because its copyrighted access to members of stormvistas model page, but take my word for it. Tomorrow it may torch us or put us in record cold, as said, changes every single day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Next 10-14 days look punt worthy if you want a winter type pattern but most of us shouldn't be expecting it this early anyway. Beyond that who knows. If nothing else maybe we can pick up some trends/model biases that may be applicable down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well if it's gonna be warmer than normal, might as well make it interesting and get some record temps in here. Kind of reminds me of late '98. I guess that means we can go ahead and pencil in another New Years blizzard. The blizzard of 99 was so kick butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 And yet, I would've sacrificed that whole month to be 50-75 miles farther north for GHD. I was looking at pictures I took From Feb 2011, and as much as it KILLED me that once again I couldnt get the epic storm, and it creamed Chicago...I still wouldnt trade what I got for an 18-22" GHD total and a quiet rest of the month. It was a snow-filled month from top to bottom. Now, if you give me the entire 31.8" that month on Feb 1/2, THEN we are talking! Here are my February snowfalls (this coming after 18" in January and starting with a settled 6" base before GHD started. 10.1" - Feb 1/2 4.1" - Feb 5 0.8" - Feb 6/7 0.9" - Feb 11/12 10.2" - Feb 20/21 0.8" - Feb 24 4.3" - Feb 25 0.6" - Feb 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Next 10-14 days look punt worthy if you want a winter type pattern but most of us shouldn't be expecting it this early anyway. Beyond that who knows. If nothing else maybe we can pick up some trends/model biases that may be applicable down the road. If we were getting snow right now (as in, blanket of snow) the snow-lover in me would be SO excited to see a friend I havent seen since March, and Id probably stay outside long enough to get myself sick. But the climo-knowlegable Josh would be worried like hell, because snowy mid-November periods have NOT meant good winters in years past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 The blizzard of 99 was so kick butt. It was...but December was so disappointing for Christmas and lack of snow. I will take back-loaded winter anyday, but it sucked to not have ANY real snow the entire Christmas season. Dec 6, 1998: DTW sets an all-time Dec temp record with a high of 69F (beat 68F in 1982) Dec 16, 1998: DTW sets a record for latest first trace of snow (beat Nov 30, 1963) Dec 29, 1998: DTW gets 0.1", sets record for latest first measurable snow (beat Dec 19, 1948) Jan 13-15, 1999: DTW records 7am snowdepth of 24", behind only the 26" depth in March 1900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Next 10-14 days look punt worthy if you want a winter type pattern but most of us shouldn't be expecting it this early anyway. Beyond that who knows. If nothing else maybe we can pick up some trends/model biases that may be applicable down the road. Yesterday and today's flakes should help since most of us got a brief taste of winter to get us by for awhile. I was looking at pictures I took From Feb 2011, and as much as it KILLED me that once again I couldnt get the epic storm, and it creamed Chicago...I still wouldnt trade what I got for an 18-22" GHD total and a quiet rest of the month. It was a snow-filled month from top to bottom. Now, if you give me the entire 31.8" that month on Feb 1/2, THEN we are talking! Here are my February snowfalls (this coming after 18" in January and starting with a settled 6" base before GHD started. 10.1" - Feb 1/2 4.1" - Feb 5 0.8" - Feb 6/7 0.9" - Feb 11/12 10.2" - Feb 20/21 0.8" - Feb 24 4.3" - Feb 25 0.6" - Feb 26 Hard for me to complain after such an epic storm like the GHD one, but the lack of snow after that storm definitely sucked. IIRC we only saw a few inches the rest of the season following that storm. However, if given a choice between an 18" storm/quiet last two months or a more active finish to the season following a lesser storm I'd choose the 18" storm every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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