Summer update II: As of July 10, SNE region's 4 primary climo sites are all solidly above normal nearing mid July

[CoastalWx]

I was just out moving the sprinkler and this is the Gods honest truth. Someone was playing a remix of Hot Stuff by Donna Summer. I mean it was banging out of either a car or home. I couldn't tell where it was coming from which was odd. Joe, are you in Tolland? If that is not a sign from above I don't know what is

Almost embarrassing.

[CT Rain]

They have? They've pretty much been nailing the H5 pattern and where the core of the heat is. With a stronger westerly component and a pretty much torched NAMER the troughs are only cooling us down to AOA max temps with dry days. I think a few of us in here saw the idea of keeping the big heat again to our SW and hence the idea to go < +2F for July, but with all of these sunny W/NW flow days there's no way to really knock the larger positive departures down.

My avg min this month currently sits at 58.7F and my monthly high min to date is 64.3F, and I don't even radiate that well. CON is running -0.5F from their normal July min. Obviously the mins have been kept up a bit in the urban centers and along the coast, but in the interior countryside it's been nice.

But what about the high dews measured at home weather stations in forests, on top of grass, next to ponds. Where people live!?!?

[Brian5671]

because Pete occasionally gives it a rest.

[Damage In Tolland]

Almost embarrassing.

I honestly just started laughing. I mean of all songs for someone to be booming and on a Sunday morning and with all the torch talk. Def a message from above

[ski MRG]

I blame the solar storm for all of the anger. The timing is perfectly correlated.

I knew there was a reason.

How come u never say a thing about the drivel that MRG posts to the opposite extreme ?

Scoob, I report my daily highs and lows. I counter the Torch Twins never ending stream of misinformation. I never make up stuff about model output. You don't see me saying days and days of 50's and rain when the models are showing dry, 80* weather. Do you know why you never read posts from the Mets here telling me my model interpretations are incorrect? Because I don't make sh*t up to support my bias.

[dendrite]

But what about the high dews measured at home weather stations in forests, on top of grass, next to ponds. Where people live!?!?

Thankfully radiational cooling doesn't care about weenie dews.

[HoarfrostHubb]

Nothin like a sleepover in center field tent city at Lowell Spinners !

HubbDave, I know you with me on this

Summer FTW

Lol... I did that once at the Worcester Tornadoes field. But they made us set up on the warning track. That sucked

[dendrite]

I heard this song when I went to get my DD...not quite sure what it means.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUOFtpEcOZk

[ski MRG]

72/67, already into the brutal low 70's. Time for some chores and then recreation. Hopefully we won't all burn up today. Looks like some healthy shower activity in WNY/PA. It'll be great if that moves east later today, once all the fun has been had. Get out there people, do something fun outdoors!!!!

[CT Rain]

Anyone else think NCEP is screwing with MOS products so when they try to get rid of them later this year no one will care?

[moneypitmike]

might not be a whole lot of sun away from E areas today.

Plenty of it here so far, Phil, though from a heavy haze.

72/67, already into the brutal low 70's. Time for some chores and then recreation. Hopefully we won't all burn up today. Looks like some healthy shower activity in WNY/PA. It'll be great if that moves east later today, once all the fun has been had. Get out there people, do something fun outdoors!!!!

Up to 77.2/66 at the Pit. Off to Shelburne Falls to run the 10K course. Hopefully it's not too warm at the 420' start point on the river. Given what we have up here, I expect the worst.

[Tropopause_Fold]

Anyone else think NCEP is screwing with MOS products so when they try to get rid of them later this year no one will care?

MOS has been really weird recently.

[HoarfrostHubb]

I heard this song when I went to get my DD...not quite sure what it means.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUOFtpEcOZk

60.6F for the low here... 75attm

Lots of people need to chill today

[dendrite]

Anyone else think NCEP is screwing with MOS products so when they try to get rid of them later this year no one will care?

I can't remember them ever being this consistently bad.

[CoastalWx]

Anyone else think NCEP is screwing with MOS products so when they try to get rid of them later this year no one will care?

So what do you use if they are gone? Model temps?

[Tropopause_Fold]

Plenty of it here so far, Phil, though from a heavy haze.

yeah looks like you are just east of it...quite a bit of cloud cover heading east though:

[dendrite]

So what do you use if they are gone? Model temps?

meteorology and not modelology ftw. I can't imagine NWS offices are happy about this.

[Tropopause_Fold]

meteorology and not modelology ftw. I can't imagine NWS offices are happy about this.

i hadn't read they are actually trying to get rid of them...is that true?

[CT Rain]

MOS has been really weird recently.

What's weird is that it's MET and MAV both. While MET has been crazy high in general... MAV numbers in general have been atrocious as well.

[dendrite]

i hadn't read they are actually trying to get rid of them...is that true?

I believe Roth from HPC at the conference said that is the case.

[CoastalWx]

meteorology and not modelology ftw. I can't imagine NWS offices are happy about this.

I mean you obviously need to tweak that with the human touch...but I use it for temps and sensible wx in aviation. That sucks if it happens.

[CT Rain]

So what do you use if they are gone? Model temps?

meteorology and not modelology ftw. I can't imagine NWS offices are happy about this.

i hadn't read they are actually trying to get rid of them...is that true?

Yeah I've heard they're trying to phase out all MOS. What will most NWS/TV mets do????????????

[CoastalWx]

What's weird is that it's MET and MAV both. While MET has been crazy high in general... MAV numbers in general have been atrocious as well.

I did read a news letter that they were trying to address some issues from the MAV MOS.

[Tropopause_Fold]

I believe Roth from HPC at the conference said that is the case.

that makes no sense for them i'd think...would love to know the reason as it seems they populate all the grids with MAV/MEX like 95% of the time...same for local offices.

[CoastalWx]

Yeah I've heard they're trying to phase out all MOS. What will most NWS/TV mets do????????????

LOL, this could be funny for those that rip n read.

[dendrite]

I also don't like the idea of stripping the long term from NWS offices and having HPC handle it all. I like to read the differences in opinion from across our region.

[Damage In Tolland]

Plenty of it here so far, Phil, though from a heavy haze.

Up to 77.2/66 at the Pit. Off to Shelburne Falls to run the 10K course. Hopefully it's not too warm at the 420' start point on the river. Given what we have up here, I expect the worst.

What kind of time do you run it in?

[dendrite]

that makes no sense for them i'd think...would love to know the reason as it seems they populate all the grids with MAV/MEX like 95% of the time...same for local offices.

I'm not sure if they're canning GMOS though...Bob I see you browsing, did he say anything about that or is it all MOS?

[Tropopause_Fold]

I also don't like the idea of stripping the long term from NWS offices and having HPC handle it all. I like to read the differences in opinion from across our region.

that's a horrendous idea....though raises the value of the local non-nws folks.

[dendrite]

LOL, this could be funny for those that rip n read.

I expect to see a lot of 2m temp interpolations used. I wonder how many TV mets will be too low on highs and too warm on mins once this happens...